Author Topic: CNN Anderson Cooper's Heated Debate: "Gays In Military" (Read 19604 times)

tonymctones · « **Reply #25 on:** October 07, 2009, 09:28:33 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 09:24:42 PM

Doesn't a gay man already have access to male genitalia if he wants to observe such? Couldn't he just peek down his own trousers?

You have a bad habit of spouting reactionary prejudices without ever thinking it through, tonymctones.

by this ignorant logic there shouldnt be gays in the first place as they already have the equipment

idiot its not their genitalia they find attractive its other males genitalia brain child

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 09:24:42 PM

Besides, this whole gays in the military debate is thoroughly infantile and misinformed.... just answer this simple question:

Can you name the one civilization in human history that had mandatory, universal, enforced homosexuality among its soldiers?

Answer that, if you dare...

are you suggesting that the US military mandates and enforces homosexuality in its forces?

please id like to hear a yes here b/c this would be about as funny as your idiotic the US never won a war idea...

The Luke · « **Reply #26 on:** October 07, 2009, 09:38:15 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on October 07, 2009, 09:28:33 PM

are you suggesting that the US military mandates and enforces homosexuality in its forces?

...epic reading comprehension.

It's a question. I'm challenging any of the anti-gays-in-the-military crowd to answer it. Why the hell did you assume it was a reference to the US military? Are you casting dispersions on America's beloved troops? You, sir, are one sick puppy.

There was one civilization in human history that encouraged female homosexuality, expected male homosexuality and enforced homosexuality among its soldiers.

Repeat:
Can you name the one civilization in human history that had mandatory, universal, enforced homosexuality among its soldiers?

The Luke

tonymctones · « **Reply #27 on:** October 07, 2009, 09:42:22 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 09:38:15 PM

...epic reading comprehension.

It's a question. I'm challenging any of the anti-gays-in-the-military crowd to answer it. Why the hell did you assume it was a reference to the US military? Are you casting dispersions on America's beloved troops? You, sir, are one sick puppy.

There was one civilization in human history that encouraged female homosexuality, expected male homosexuality and enforced homosexuality among its soldiers.

Repeat:
Can you name the one civilization in human history that had mandatory, universal, enforced homosexuality among its soldiers?

HAHAHHAH first of all thats not the question you asked brain child you changed it up quite a bit

why ask that question if you dont think that the US is enforcing homosexuality in its forces?

first please tell me how that relevant to this issue at all?

The Luke · « **Reply #28 on:** October 07, 2009, 09:55:18 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on October 07, 2009, 09:42:22 PM

HAHAHHAH first of all thats not the question you asked brain child you changed it up quite a bit

No I didn't. It's a word for word repeat of the question.

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 09:24:42 PM

Can you name the one civilization in human history that had mandatory, universal, enforced homosexuality among its soldiers?

...and...

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 09:38:15 PM

Repeat:
Can you name the one civilization in human history that had mandatory, universal, enforced homosexuality among its soldiers?

...exact same sentence, exact same question: word for word.

If you don't believe me, why not compare the two different posts of mine WHICH YOU YOURSELF quoted. The question is bolded in each case.

Unless of course you think I went back and edited my posts, then hacked your account and edited yours too?

Is English your second language dude?

The Luke

tonymctones · « **Reply #29 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:01:41 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 09:55:18 PM

Unless of course you think I went back and edited my posts, then hacked your account and edited yours too?

Is English your second language dude?

The Luke

you put a caveat into your second post as in this

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 09:38:15 PM

There was one civilization in human history that encouraged female homosexuality, expected male homosexuality and enforced homosexuality among its soldiers.

at any rate please answer the question i posed you what does that have to do with this issue?

Id say many societies have encouraged female homosexuality, i dont know of any that EXPECTED homosexuality of any kind though and dont know any that have enforced it among its soldiers

The Luke · « **Reply #30 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:19:06 PM »

Again, epic reading comprehension dude. The caveat doesn't place coditions on the question, nor change it, it merely gives a hint as to the answer.

Quote from: tonymctones on October 07, 2009, 10:01:41 PM

Id say many societies have encouraged female homosexuality, i dont know of any that EXPECTED homosexuality of any kind though and dont know any that have enforced it among its soldiers

...some people have been writing down what's been going down, for quite a while now. It's called HISTORY. Check it out dude.

Seriously though... my brother had this same conversation in college with one of these weird Opus Dei activists protesting against gay rights. Once the conversation turned to gays in the military, my brother (not one to sffer fools gladly) wondered aloud if there had ever been a military that enforced homosexuality among its soldiers that could be used as an example.

Everyone within earshot (except the Opus Dei weirdo) buckled over with laughter.

I thought the same thing would happen here... but I phrased the question in such a way that the answer can't be Google-Fu-ed, and it seems GetBiggers aren't that smart.

Guess we'll find out just how smart the Politics Board is.

This is an end-of-thread question whenever the topic of gays in the military is raised:
Can you name the one civilization in human history that had mandatory, universal, enforced homosexuality among its soldiers?

The Luke

tonymctones · « **Reply #31 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:35:45 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 10:19:06 PM

This is an end-of-thread question whenever the topic of gays in the military is raised:
Can you name the one civilization in human history that had mandatory, universal, enforced homosexuality among its soldiers?

notice how i keep deleting the majority of your posts thats b/c we dont need rhetoric and bull shit just points and facts.

no i cant and just like you im not willing to go research it so since i educated you on ayers you do the same here

The Luke · « **Reply #32 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:40:01 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on October 07, 2009, 10:35:45 PM

no i cant and just like you im not willing to go research it so since i educated you on ayers you do the same here

Maybe if you knew enough to answer the question you might change your bigotted views on gays in the military?

Either way, dont worry about it... I'm sure one of the smarter posters will enlighten you when they explain the question.

The Luke

tonymctones · « **Reply #33 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:55:22 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 10:40:01 PM

Maybe if you knew enough to answer the question you might change your bigotted views on gays in the military?

Either way, dont worry about it... I'm sure one of the smarter posters will enlighten you when they explain the question.

The Luke

lol

sure hoss sure

The Luke · « **Reply #34 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:57:55 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on October 07, 2009, 10:55:22 PM

lol sure hoss sure

...maybe ask the question of a friend? A smart friend.

Isn't 333386 some sort of military history buff?

The Luke

garebear · « **Reply #35 on:** October 07, 2009, 11:03:29 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 10:19:06 PM

Again, epic reading comprehension dude. The caveat doesn't place coditions on the question, nor change it, it merely gives a hint as to the answer.

...some people have been writing down what's been going down, for quite a while now. It's called HISTORY. Check it out dude.

Seriously though... my brother had this same conversation in college with one of these weird Opus Dei activists protesting against gay rights. Once the conversation turned to gays in the military, my brother (not one to sffer fools gladly) wondered aloud if there had ever been a military that enforced homosexuality among its soldiers that could be used as an example.

Everyone within earshot (except the Opus Dei weirdo) buckled over with laughter.

I thought the same thing would happen here... but I phrased the question in such a way that the answer can't be Google-Fu-ed, and it seems GetBiggers aren't that smart.

Guess we'll find out just how smart the Politics Board is.

This is an end-of-thread question whenever the topic of gays in the military is raised:
Can you name the one civilization in human history that had mandatory, universal, enforced homosexuality among its soldiers?

The Luke

The Greeks?

The Luke · « **Reply #36 on:** October 07, 2009, 11:06:41 PM »

Quote from: garebear on October 07, 2009, 11:03:29 PM

The Greeks?

Getting warmer.

The Luke

garebear · « **Reply #37 on:** October 07, 2009, 11:09:51 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 11:06:41 PM

Getting warmer.

The Luke

Romans?

The Luke · « **Reply #38 on:** October 07, 2009, 11:16:21 PM »

Quote from: garebear on October 07, 2009, 11:09:51 PM

Romans?

Nope.

The Luke

garebear · « **Reply #39 on:** October 07, 2009, 11:18:23 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on October 07, 2009, 11:16:21 PM

Nope.

The Luke

I give up.

Who?

The Luke · « **Reply #40 on:** October 07, 2009, 11:26:14 PM »

Quote from: garebear on October 07, 2009, 11:18:23 PM

I give up.

Who?

Two tries?

Think.

Why would Luke ask such a question, unless the answer really did end the debate about gays in the military as he claimed it would. Luke knows things, and has a habit of making succinct simple arguments, so obvious and unchallengable that they reduce his detractors to name-calling and other such evasive tactics. (Also, he talks about himself in the third person).

The Luke

gcb · « **Reply #41 on:** October 08, 2009, 06:49:28 AM »

Sounds like the Spartans to me

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #42 on:** October 08, 2009, 08:42:16 AM »

The Amazons.

tonymctones · « **Reply #43 on:** October 08, 2009, 08:58:25 AM »

how about just making the point you want to make luke?

The Luke · « **Reply #44 on:** October 08, 2009, 10:16:23 AM »

Quote from: gcb on October 08, 2009, 06:49:28 AM

Sounds like the Spartans to me

We have a winner! (The Amazons are a mythical race)

Pretty hard to argue gays don't belong in the military when the one and ony time a civilization insisted upon and enforced male homosexuality among its soldiers it was the Spartans. Certainly didnt hurt their morale.

Remember Thermopylae... but don't ask, don't tell. End of thread.

The Luke
PS ...the standard of knowledge on this board is surprisingly poor, you guys rely on Google too much.

tonymctones · « **Reply #45 on:** October 08, 2009, 10:23:53 AM »

Quote from: The Luke on October 08, 2009, 10:16:23 AM

We have a winner! (The Amazons are a mythical race)

Pretty hard to argue gays don't belong in the military when the one and ony time a civilization insisted upon and enforced male homosexuality among its soldiers it was the Spartans. Certainly didnt hurt their morale.

Remember Thermopylae... but don't ask, don't tell. End of thread.

The Luke
PS ...the standard of knowledge on this board is surprisingly poor, you guys rely on Google too much.

LOL WOW YOURE A FUKING IDIOT

how does that justify letting homosexuals serve openly?

they also killed infants they deemed unworthy or weak should that justify infantcide?

they did a host of other shit that would be deemed wrong today does that justify doing those things today?

hahahaha youre truely are a fuking idiot

Option D · « **Reply #46 on:** October 08, 2009, 10:44:41 AM »

the dumbest and most backwards shit ever..They licking cock in ass has nothing to do with their ability to shoot arabs.The us military has a history of being wrong with these things "Blacks cant serve in the military because they dont the courage or mental capacity to be officers...Insert Chappie James, Colin Powell Etc...
Fuckin idiots

MCWAY · « **Reply #47 on:** October 08, 2009, 10:49:38 AM »

Quote from: tonymctones on October 08, 2009, 10:23:53 AM

LOL WOW YOURE A FUKING IDIOT

how does that justify letting homosexuals serve openly?

they also killed infants they deemed unworthy or weak should that justify infantcide?

they did a host of other shit that would be deemed wrong today does that justify doing those things today?

hahahaha youre truely are a fuking idiot

Plus, the Spartans didn't sign documents stating that they are aware of their army's policy on homosexual behavior, that such is verboten, and that failure to comply will result in dismissal.

Wayne Besen, former head of HRC, was on "The O'Reilly Factor", complaining about Arab linguists getting axed because they're gay.

Well, if they took the training, regarding the DoD Homosexual Conduct Policy, initialed it, signed it, and agreed BEFORE BEING SWORN INTO SERVICE, to abide by it (or face expulsion), then they have no reason to complain when they come out and get thrown out.

The Luke · « **Reply #48 on:** October 08, 2009, 10:51:14 AM »

Quote from: tonymctones on October 08, 2009, 10:23:53 AM

LOL WOW YOURE A FUKING IDIOT

how does that justify letting homosexuals serve openly?

they also killed infants they deemed unworthy or weak should that justify infantcide?

they did a host of other shit that would be deemed wrong today does that justify doing those things today?

hahahaha youre truely are a fuking idiot

...are you arging that gay soldiers are too savage and aggressive?

Doesn't that make MY point?

The Luke

tonymctones · « **Reply #49 on:** October 08, 2009, 10:51:30 AM »

Quote from: big_mal on October 08, 2009, 10:44:41 AM

the dumbest and most backwards shit ever..They licking cock in ass has nothing to do with their ability to shoot arabs.The us military has a history of being wrong with these things "Blacks cant serve in the military because they dont the courage or mental capacity to be officers...Insert Chappie James, Colin Powell Etc...
Fuckin idiots

LOL allowing blacks to serve didnt take away from the rights of others mal...allowing gays to openly serve does

do you support my right to walk into any womens locker room and check out the women mal?