CNN Anderson Cooper's Heated Debate: "Gays In Military"

[tonymctones]

I use revelatory questions all the time... why not ask me a question, if you disagree.

b/c you dont answer the questions that show you for a jack ass dip shit, ive posed multiple questions to you in this very thread guess how many have been answered?

GOOSE EGG

[garebear]

...you didn't have a point.


The Luke

Yes, I did. My point was that you don't have any friends because you have a superiority complex.

This is also why you sign everyone of your posts at the end and enjoy talking of yourself in the third person.

Get it fixed or be crushed.

[headhuntersix]

I think its too late for either...

Luke as usual u miss the point of the thread. Gare and I both serve..he says he doesn't care and or it won't bother him....I say, while I don't care about gays, we don;t need to be social engineered in a time of war when this will cause massive problems. The current policy works, leave it alone. I've had gay soldiers....they did their jobs and then they got out at the first available point. If they'd been flamboyant or obviouse to those outside the organization..I would have exercised the rules under "don't ask" and they would have been gone..except it can take up to 18 months and if a person serves in combat, does his job etc...I don't think they should loose benefits. He did his job and was not overtly gay. This is the case with the over whleming majority who serve. If u come out of the closet to some gay group or media gathering..ur getting bounced.

[blacken700]

I think its too late for either...

Luke as usual u miss the point of the thread. Gare and I both serve..he says he doesn't care and or it won't bother him....I say, while I don't care about gays, we don;t need to be social engineered in a time of war when this will cause massive problems. The current policy works, leave it alone. I've had gay soldiers....they did their jobs and then they got out at the first available point. If they'd been flamboyant or obviouse to those outside the organization..I would have exercised the rules under "don't ask" and they would have been gone..except it can take up to 18 months and if a person serves in combat, does his job etc...I don't think they should loose benefits. He did his job and was not overtly gay. This is the case with the over whleming majority who serve. If u come out of the closet to some gay group or media gathering..ur getting bounced.

thats just your opinion it doesn't mean you right

[tonymctones]

thats just your opinion it doesn't mean you right

no but the privacy rights of the soldiers does

why dont any of you supporters speak on that?

[The Luke]

Maybe, instead of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" we should just replace that with either:

"Just No Sissies!"

...or...

"None of Your Fucken Business"


...could we all agree on that?


The Luke

[tonymctones]

Maybe, instead of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" we should just replace that with either:

"Just No Sissies!"

...or...

"None of Your Fucken Business"


...could we all agree on that?


The Luke

can you agree that allowing gays to openly serve violates others privacy rights?

how about allowing gays into locker rooms?

i guess its ok to infringe on ppls rights if your gay huh?

[The Luke]

how about allowing gays into locker rooms?

...there are gays in every locker room.


The Luke

[tonymctones]

...there are gays in every locker room.


The Luke

probably so and they infringe on my privacy rights wouldnt you agree?

[The Luke]

probably so and they infringe on my privacy rights wouldnt you agree?

...as much as you do on theirs?


The Luke

[tonymctones]

...as much as you do on theirs?


The Luke

not at all if that was the case i would be allowed in the female locker room dip shit

fact of the matter is gay males find other males sexually attractive as I find females sexually attractive

so how is me going into a female locker room violating their privacy rights but gay men being in a male locker room not violating mine?

[The Luke]

not at all if that was the case i would be allowed in the female locker room dip shit

fact of the matter is gay males find other males sexually attractive as I find females sexually attractive

so how is me going into a female locker room violating their privacy rights but gay men being in a male locker room not violating mine?

...I get your point.

You want separate:
-straight male
-straight female
-gay male
-gay female
-intersex
-hemaphrodite
-asexual

...changing rooms. Practical.

But the fatal flaw in your logic is this: each and every bisexual has to have an individual locker room for themselves, as they find both males and females attractive.


The Luke

[tonymctones]

...I get your point.

You want separate:
-straight male
-straight female
-gay male
-gay female
-intersex
-hemaphrodite
-asexual

...changing rooms. Practical.

But the fatal flaw in your logic is this: each and every bisexual has to have an individual locker room for themselves, as they find both males and females attractive.


The Luke

or we can just leave the current system in place and "dont ask, dont tell"

[The Luke]

or we can just leave the current system in place and "dont ask, dont tell"

...realising your logic demands a separate locker room for every bisexual?

Realising you've been arguing a retards argument for four pages?


The Luke

[tonymctones]

...realising your logic demands a separate locker room for every bisexual?

Realising you've been arguing a retards argument for four pages?


The Luke

hahahah you agreed i have valid point didnt you

you never addressed the idiocy of your spartan analogy and how they used infantcide

realiZing youre an idiot?

my point is that the system we have isnt perfect but to give someone else rights you take away rights of others...apparently to you thats ok if you gay but not if youre straight right?

[The Luke]

hahahah you agreed i have valid point didnt you

you never addressed the idiocy of your spartan analogy and how they used infantcide

...it's not a valid point.

I pointed out that the most feared military force in history practiced enforced homosexuality... that just shows that gay soldiers don't hinder an army. That's all.

It doesn't mean I'm advocating every single thing that could possibly be attributed to the Spartans. Not infanticide; not speaking Greek; not monarchy; not pantheism; not bronze-age technology... I'm merely giving an example from history relevant to the topic being discussed.

Only a retard would argue something so stupid...

That's like someone pointing out that the French have a great universal healthcare system during a debate about healthcare, and some tard (such as yourself) thinking it's an advocation for Americans speaking French.

You can't be that dumb, can you?


The Luke

[tonymctones]

...it's not a valid point.

I pointed out that the most feared military force in history practiced enforced homosexuality... that just shows that gay soldiers don't hinder an army. That's all.

It doesn't mean I'm advocating every single thing that could possibly be attributed to the Spartans. Not infanticide; not speaking Greek; not monarchy; not pantheism; not bronze-age technology... I'm merely giving an example from history relevant to the topic being discussed.

Only a retard would argue something so stupid...

That's like someone pointing out that the French have a great universal healthcare system during a debate about healthcare, and some tard (such as yourself) thinking it's an advocation for Americans speaking French.

You can't be that dumb, can you?

only a retard wouldnt see the fuking connection you numb nut fuck

they did this and you say that it contributed to their military prowess well they also commited infantcide to help produce the best citizens and soldiers they could so whats the difference?

the problem with your logic is you dont apply it in all situations which is the basis of logic. you want to cite homosexuality in the spartan military as reason for us to institute it here well they also used infantcide to help their military so by your logic instituting infantcide would be just as justifiable...

[headhuntersix]

The most feared military force in human history huh..I'd say thats a pretty bold statement...first off its untrue..second I'd say a Roman Cohort or an SS Panzer Division...how about the Foreign legion...Gurkhas....u speak of historical absolutes to make a point that is ridiculous....much like ur poor debating skills, ur historical skills also lack. U couldn't argue that the sky was blue in complete coherent sentances if I put a gun to ur head.

[The Luke]

they did this and you say that it contributed to their military prowess well they also commited infantcide to help produce the best citizens and soldiers they could so whats the difference?

...I did nothing of the kind.

Again, criticise me for what I write... not what you misread.


The Luke

[tonymctones]

as a side note the efficiency of our military is not the point I think its easy to see that the US military is head and shoulder above any other military in the world right now.

The issue is privacy rights

so please address those luke instead of your idiotic illogical spartan analogy...

[The Luke]

The most feared military force in human history huh..I'd say thats a pretty bold statement...first off its untrue..second I'd say a Roman Cohort or an SS Panzer Division...how about the Foreign legion...Gurkhas....u speak of historical absolutes to make a point that is ridiculous....much like ur poor debating skills, ur historical skills also lack. U couldn't argue that the sky was blue in complete coherent sentances if I put a gun to ur head.

One word: Thermopylae.



The Luke

[tonymctones]

...I did nothing of the kind.

Again, criticise me for what I write... not what you misread.


The Luke

hahahaha i knew youd resort to this

more of the well what i meant was....

what was the point of bringing up the spartan example then luke?

[tonymctones]

One word: Thermopylae.



The Luke

what does that have to do with anything i thought this wasnt about military prowess?

[The Luke]

hahahaha i knew youd resort to this

more of the well what i meant was....

what was the point of bringing up the spartan example then luke?

...quote my post where I claimed homosexuality "contributed" to Spartan military prowess, then. You can't, as no such post exists... you just think it does.

You are inferring something that was not implied... you need better reading comprehension.


The Luke

[The Luke]

what does that have to do with anything i thought this wasnt about military prowess?

...read the quote to which it is a response, it's just above my comment.

Again, I'm getting tired of saying it, you have to read more carefully... that was a response to headhuntersix, that's why I quoted him. To avoid this confusion.

Learn to read.


The Luke