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Jews are beginning to become concerned about Obama
« on: October 09, 2009, 10:56:34 AM »
Jewish Leader: Jewish Support for Obama Sinking Fast
By: Ronald Kessler
newsmax.com


Previously overwhelming support for President Obama among Jews is sinking fast, Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America, tells Newsmax.

Klein cites a recent Gallup Poll that found Obama’s approval rating among Jews in America has slipped from 83 percent in January to 64 percent.

“I give a lecture almost every week around the country to Jewish groups,” says Klein, whose organization of 30,000 members is the oldest pro-Israel group in the country. “I began to see serious concern after Obama’s speech in Cairo, in which he equated Palestinian suffering to Jewish suffering during the Holocaust, a ridiculous analogy. He said the Palestinian situation is equivalent to U.S. blacks in America before the civil rights movement, implying that Jews are oppressors.”

Jews became even more anxious when Obama gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to “two of the most virulent anti-Israel people in the world, Mary Robinson of Ireland and Desmond Tutu of South Africa,” Klein says.

“More recently in the United Nations speech, Obama coupled supporting Israeli security with Israel fulfilling Palestinian claims and rights,” Klein says. “He could have said, I support Israel security, and I want Israel to fulfill Palestinian claims and rights. But he didn’t say that. He used the word couple, linking it.”

That linkage “has never been made by any president, ever,” Klein notes. “So that was an astonishingly new statement. This really frightens both Christian and American Jewish supporters of Israel.”

In that speech, Obama “condemned the occupation that started in 1967, giving it no context, not mentioning that Egypt started that war by closing the Straits of Tiran and the Suez Canal, an act of war; by bringing 100,000 Egyptian troops on the border of Israel; by throwing out the U.N. peacekeepers from the Sinai,” Klein says.

Moreover, “Jews are worried that in the Cairo speech he never mentioned Iran, and more recently he seems to be doing everything he can to delay any real, true sanctions, and he seems to have taken the military option off the table,” Klein says. “So American Jews and others are now worried that he’s not even serious about doing something about this ideologically fanatical terrorist-supporting regime. He’s not doing anything about allowing them to get nuclear weapons, which they could use to harm Israel, the West, and even America.”
As a child of survivors of the Holocaust, Klein says he was particularly offended by Obama’s comparison of the suffering of Palestinians with the Nazis’ murder of 6 million Jews during the Holocaust. “I found this to be an abominable, odious, and ridiculously false analogy,” he says.

While Klein’s parents survived, his father lost his eight brothers and sisters and all his aunts and uncles in Nazi concentration camps. Klein’s mother lost half of her family.

When it comes to Israel, “It’s tragic to realize that Obama’s sympathies and feelings are not that far from his mentor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright,” Klein says.

Based on the president’s speeches and many of his foreign policy appointments, Klein thinks Obama “may become the most hostile president to Israel ever.”


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Re: Jews are beginning to become concerned about Obama
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2009, 11:02:27 AM »
THEY SHOULD... The way he's abandoning Israel.... They are on their own.

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Re: Jews are beginning to become concerned about Obama
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2009, 11:05:19 AM »
THEY SHOULD... The way he's abandoning Israel.... They are on their own.

American Jews are smart in many areas, but politics is not one of them. 

Many are brain dead liberals who will willingly be led to any slaughter so long as it is a fellow leftist doing the slaughter. 

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2009, 11:09:32 AM »
I agree. Living in NY, the jews I've talked with did not like Bush because of his foreign policies, but felt they had the right to protect themselves against the Palistinians... Um?? Difference?  ???

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Re: Jews are beginning to become concerned about Obama
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2009, 11:10:06 AM »
THEY SHOULD... The way he's abandoning Israel.... They are on their own.
He not abandoning them, it's about time that we treat both as equals. They both are like two spoiled, very bad children, except that Israel will hit the other when the us is not looking ( or pretending not to look) and using the pastcas a guilt trip. Of course Palestine is not innocent, and this child will hit the other while the us is watching...very stupid.

But there is the logic that children who are often bullied, tend to either do something, or create the environment for the bully,.



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Re: Jews are beginning to become concerned about Obama
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2009, 11:12:49 AM »
He not abandoning them, it's about time that we treat both as equals. They both are like two spoiled, very bad children, except that Israel will hit the other when the us is not looking ( or pretending not to look) and using the pastcas a guilt trip. Of course Palestine is not innocent, and this child will hit the other while the us is watching...very stupid.

But there is the logic that children who are often bullied, tend to either do something, or create the environment for the bully,.

Thats the best comment I've read about Israel and Palestine for a long time...and believe me Ive read many.

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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2009, 11:12:49 AM »
He not abandoning them, it's about time that we treat both as equals. They both are like two spoiled, very bad children, except that Israel will hit the other when the us is not looking ( or pretending not to look) and using the pastcas a guilt trip. Of course Palestine is not innocent, and this child will hit the other while the us is watching...very stupid.

But there is the logic that children who are often bullied, tend to either do something, or create the environment for the bully,.



EQUALS??? Anyone who targets kids on a bus is NOT an equal. Sorry man. Israel has the right to defend themselves.

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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2009, 11:16:12 AM »
He not abandoning them, it's about time that we treat both as equals. They both are like two spoiled, very bad children, except that Israel will hit the other when the us is not looking ( or pretending not to look) and using the pastcas a guilt trip. Of course Palestine is not innocent, and this child will hit the other while the us is watching...very stupid.

But there is the logic that children who are often bullied, tend to either do something, or create the environment for the bully,.




The US should stop wasting money over there.

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Re: Jews are beginning to become concerned about Obama
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2009, 11:16:56 AM »
last i checked we still give them 100bil a year and they still police themselves.

whats the problemo

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Re: Jews are beginning to become concerned about Obama
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2009, 11:17:33 AM »
I agree. Living in NY, the jews I've talked with did not like Bush because of his foreign policies, but felt they had the right to protect themselves against the Palistinians... Um?? Difference?  ???

I grew up in Bronx/Westchester, I understand the mental disorder better than most.  Many of my close friends are Jews, I have dated Jews, etc, so i know full well the thought process, or lack thereof when it comes to these things.  

They hate Bush, yet could care less when Hillary kisses Arafats wife or says "fucking jew bastards"

Amazing.

Most I have met are public communists/socialists but extremely rabid capitilists in their private life.  

    

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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2009, 11:21:21 AM »
I grew up in Bronx/Westchester, I understand the mental disorder better than most.  Many of my close friends are Jews, I have dated Jews, etc, so i know full well the thought process, or lack thereof when it comes to these things.  

They hate Bush, yet could care less when Hillary kisses Arafats wife or says "fucking jew bastards"

Amazing.

Most I have met are public communists/socialists but extremely rabid capitilists in their private life.  

    
hahha... my bro-in-law was a NYPD officer in Riverdale and he would tell me the convo's he had...

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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2009, 11:21:29 AM »
HAHAAHAHAHAAHA!...Is this a case of NOT GETTING WHAT THEY PAID FOR?...

Maybe the Jew will now learn that MONEY can not always be used to benefit them...The very TRICKSTERS they have put in office or controlled in office byway of lobbying(bribing) have now turned around and played the ULTIMATE TRICK ON THEM.... Happy Holloween
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2009, 11:27:46 AM »
HAHAAHAHAHAAHA!...Is this a case of NOT GETTING WHAT THEY PAID FOR?...

Maybe the Jew will now learn that MONEY can not always be used to benefit them...The very TRICKSTERS they have put in office or controlled in office byway of lobbying(bribing) have now turned around and played the ULTIMATE TRICK ON THEM.... Happy Holloween

Actually you are right - and most are still in disbelief and refuse to accept the obvious.

Its amazing to me how people who can be so smart in certain areas can be so dumb in others. 

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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2009, 11:38:47 AM »
HAHAAHAHAHAAHA!...Is this a case of NOT GETTING WHAT THEY PAID FOR?...

Maybe the Jew will now learn that MONEY can not always be used to benefit them...The very TRICKSTERS they have put in office or controlled in office byway of lobbying(bribing) have now turned around and played the ULTIMATE TRICK ON THEM.... Happy Holloween

Most politicians are bought and paid for. Obama is no different and would not be re-elected (or worse) if he legitimately pushed for a two state solution or even hinted at stopping the endless flow of US dollars to Israel. Anything he says that seems to not support the Jew's ultimate plan to occupy all of the land is nothing more than lip service.

The whole situation is a waste of money and time but our political process has been hijacked for too long so this thing must play itself out over the next 10 years or so.

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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2009, 11:57:30 AM »
EQUALS??? Anyone who targets kids on a bus is NOT an equal. Sorry man. Israel has the right to defend themselves.
Yes. Equals, did I not say they are like two bad children both have done dirt, one does it out the open, and Palestine hasn't always been the blow up the kids type. As I stated before the one who is bullied sometimes sets up the situation for theselves to be bullied or ostracized. For example in well back in the day in venice ( and other parts of Europe) Jews could not do certain things, like own property, so they practiced ursury, this and them always not assimilating within the culture or country that they were in, led people to either be jealous, hateful and spiteful towards them...With sets up the bully model and the victim complex. Read shakespeare's The merchant of Venice, or watch the movie, it's where the saying " a pound of flesh"
comes from.      


now fast forward to today, the bullied child feels that the us and international community is not listening, so militant factions
within have taken over, desperate Times call for desperate measures is there reasoning. And this is a natural response with many people, kinda a Mlk vs  Malcolm x approach--- except way
 more extreme.
Both Israel and the Palestinians need to realize that can't keep getting away with shit they pull, and people are getting tired of
it. If money needs to pulled from Israel ( like telling your child,
it's time you left the house) then so be it.





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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2009, 12:07:40 PM »
Yes. Equals, did I not say they are like two bad children both have done dirt, one does it out the open, and Palestine hasn't always been the blow up the kids type. As I stated before the one who is bullied sometimes sets up the situation for theselves to be bullied or ostracized. For example in well back in the day in venice ( and other parts of Europe) Jews could not do certain things, like own property, so they practiced ursury, this and them always not assimilating within the culture or country that they were in, led people to either be jealous, hateful and spiteful towards them...With sets up the bully model and the victim complex. Read shakespeare's The merchant of Venice, or watch the movie, it's where the saying " a pound of flesh"
comes from.      


now fast forward to today, the bullied child feels that the us and international community is not listening, so militant factions
within have taken over, desperate Times call for desperate measures is there reasoning. And this is a natural response with many people, kinda a Mlk vs  Malcolm x approach--- except way
 more extreme.
Both Israel and the Palestinians need to realize that can't keep getting away with shit they pull, and people are getting tired of
it. If money needs to pulled from Israel ( like telling your child,
it's time you left the house) then so be it.





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Parker,

You're still under the wrong impression that a two state (or any other solution where Palestinians end up with land) is possible. If they were all killed/gone.... right after the area was repopulated fighting would begin again. :)

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Re: Jews are beginning to become concerned about Obama
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2009, 12:16:27 PM »
Parker,

You're still under the wrong impression that a two state (or any other solution where Palestinians end up with land) is possible. If they were all killed/gone.... right after the area was repopulated fighting would begin again. :)

This whole thing should be a one state solution.

With the Golan Heights, Gaza and the West Bank given back to Syria, Egypt and Jordan. They don't want them back because they would lose leverage and have a large group of terrorist in their country. Blaming Israel for this is crazy. Arab Israeli's should be grateful for living in a much more tolerant state, of course they aren't.

Too bad there are millions of people involved in all of this and they UN has effectively kept this charade alive.
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2009, 12:25:54 PM »
This whole thing should be a one state solution.

With the Golan Heights, Gaza and the West Bank given back to Syria, Egypt and Jordan. They don't want them back because they would lose leverage and have a large group of terrorist in their country. Blaming Israel for this is crazy. Arab Israeli's should be grateful for living in a much more tolerant state, of course they aren't.

Too bad there are millions of people involved in all of this and they UN has effectively kept this charade alive.

The UN started this mess attempting to appease hurt feelings over ignoring the holocaust too long. Now we all have to keep wasting money over there.

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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2009, 12:30:07 PM »
Parker,

You're still under the wrong impression that a two state (or any other solution where Palestinians end up with land) is possible. If they were all killed/gone.... right after the area was repopulated fighting would begin again. :)
So basically say to both, ya'll go fuck yourselves. We ( the us) have spent too much time and MONEY and nothing has been resolved. I wish we could do that, but the Jewish lobby is too strong, in fact I'm will to believe that they woul resort to far more sinister methods of getting their way... A far more maliable Vp just might come in handy as prez... If you catch my drift

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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2009, 12:38:28 PM »
So basically say to both, ya'll go fuck yourselves. We ( the us) have spent too much time and MONEY and nothing has been resolved. I wish we could do that, but the Jewish lobby is too strong, in fact I'm will to believe that they woul resort to far more sinister methods of getting their way... A far more maliable Vp just might come in handy as prez... If you catch my drift


Biden will be President if the policy isn't right.

At any rate there isn't any other way to deal with the problem than their killing all the Palestinians. Surrounding areas have already been ruined by refugees and there's no other place that can absorb them. Last thing that region needs is another situation like the Kurds.

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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2009, 12:42:07 PM »
Biden will be President if the policy isn't right.

At any rate there isn't any other way to deal with the problem than their killing all the Palestinians. Surrounding areas have already been ruined by refugees and there's no other place that can absorb them. Last thing that region needs is another situation like the Kurds.
Palestinians have been fucked since biblical times. It's things like that make me glad I'm black

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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2009, 12:53:39 PM »
Palestinians have been fucked since biblical times. It's things like that make me glad I'm black

And they will stay fucked, LOL!

It's all Abraham's fault for disobeying God and listening to Sarah. :)

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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2009, 01:02:12 PM »
They were both promised the land, so that sucks for both of them. Arabs don't want a 2 State solution, or any solution for that matter because they lose leverage and a grand distraction. Israeli's probably don't want it because it would encroach to much on gaining land etc.

Of course, if the UN would not have given Yasser Araffat the right to speak so many years ago...maybe the terrorists etc wouldn't have seen that using violence is the way to resolve conflicts. Arafat killed and destroyed so the UN gave him the floor. Brilliant.

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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2009, 01:07:59 PM »
And they will stay fucked, LOL!

It's all Abraham's fault for disobeying God and listening to Sarah. :)
Tis what happens when you listen to a woman instead of THCBIC (The Head Celestial Being In Charge). Same thing happen to Adam and also sampson. And Im willing to bet that is with Kane and Abel. The "editors" of the bible left that out---too many clues

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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2009, 01:18:58 PM »
Ronald Borek Kessler is an American journalist and author. He is chief Washington, D.C. correspondent of the conservative news and commentary blog Newsmax.com.

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