Greatest Fight Ever: Fedor vs Crocop.

[spinnis]

How big is that BJJ guy?

6"1 250

[kyomu]

6"1 250

How do you think about that BBJ against Fedor?

[spinnis]

How do you think about that BBJ against Fedor?

very good question, Fedor has owned bjj black belts before though, and is better then mir standing, so I would say fedor.

and its BJJ not BBJ  kyomu san

[kyomu]

very good question, Fedor has owned bjj black belts before though, and is better then mir standing, so I would say fedor.

and its BJJ not BBJ  kyomu san

Haha,Brazilian JiuJitsu

[kyomu]

very good question, Fedor has owned bjj black belts before though, and is better then mir standing, so I would say fedor.

and its BJJ not BBJ  kyomu san

How do you think about Minotauro?

[spinnis]

How do you think about Minotauro?

Now days he wouldnt stand a chance..


Minotauro has lasted all three rounds the two times they fought though =)

Mostly because nog can take soooo much punishment lol


you should love nog though? heart of a LION.

[suckmymuscle]

Brock Lesnar will crush these punks

  Yes, Lesnar with his impressive 4-1 record vs Fedor's 31-1. Seriously, Brock would win if he survived the first minute or two of the fight and Fedor failed to take him to the ground. Fedor has the power to knock Brock out, but if he doesen't do it in the first minutes Brock will KO him. If Fedor takes the fight to the ground, Brock is defeated. Fedor's submissions are too much for anyone, especially for a guy like Brock. In his first fight with Mir, he lost to a knee lock. But yeah, if Fedor doesen't KO Brock in the frist minutes or takes him to the ground, Brock will win. Brock is simply too strong and powerful for anyone. There is no way that Fedor would be able to win a protracted striking match with Brock because his punches are just as powerful as Fedor's except that Brock gives those punches much faster than Fedor. Fedor is not a very good striker. In the fight against Arlovski, he was losing until he put him to sleep by hitting Arlovski in the chin. He has great power, but he's not a great striker.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[spinnis]

  Yes, Lesnar with his impressive 4-1 record vs Fedor's 31-1. Seriously, Brock would win if he survived the first minute or two of the fight and Fedor failed to take him to the ground. Fedor has the power to knock Brock out, but if he doesen't do it in the first minutes Brock will KO him. If Fedor takes the fight to the ground, Brock is defeated. Fedor's submissions are too much for anyone, especially for a guy like Brock. In his first fight with Mir, he lost to a knee lock. But yeah, if Fedor doesen't KO Brock in the frist minutes or takes him to the ground, Brock will win. Brock is simply too strong and powerful for anyone. There is no way that Fedor would be able to win a protracted striking match with Brock because his punches are just as powerful as Fedor's except that Brock gives those punches much faster than Fedor. Fedor is not a very good striker. In the fight against Arlovski, he was losing until he put him to sleep by hitting Arlovski in the chin. He has great power, but he's not a great striker.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Or Brock just takes him down, smothers him and just neutralizes his ground game with his pure mass and strenght like he did with Mir.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

Or Brock just takes him down, smothers him and just neutralizes his ground game with his pure mass and strenght like he did with Mir.

 Wow!!! Sweede you really love to suck  Caucasian  c*ck.
 First was Wolf, Wolf will do this, Wolf will do that. He did sh*t.
 Now Lesnar, lets wait and see what happens.
 And just because someone has a black belt, that doesn't meant sh*t.
 Black belt you can have one in couple of months, pay and that's it.
 You will be a shitty  black belt, but you will have one.
 Come to Brazil and you will see blue belts submitting Brown and black belts.
 

  

[suckmymuscle]

Or Brock just takes him down, smothers him and just neutralizes his ground game with his pure mass and strenght like he did with Mir.

  Now you're just breing a delusional fanboy. Brock wouldn't last on the ground against Fedor. Watch his first fight with Mir and it ended in minutes with Brock tapping out to a knee lock. And you can't compare Mir to Fedor. Mir is a third-tier fighter at best, whilst Fedor is a three time PRIDE FC heavyweight champion and so far has crushed not one, not two, not even three, but seven former UFC heavyweight champions, most of them by submissions. The problem with equating Mir's defeat to Lesnar on the ground and extrapoling that Fedor would be defeated for the same reasons Mir was is twofold:

  1. Fedor is much stronger than Mir.

  2. Fedor is much, much better at submissions than Mir.

  In reality apples and oranges. Brock Lesnar is very beatable on the ground, where his power is mostly neutralized and leverage comes into play. Now, if Fedor doesen't take Brock to the ground or KO him in the first minute or so like he did to Arlovski, then Brock will KO Fedor or win by points. Brock is ridiculously strong. No fighter, not even Fedor, would survive a protracted striking match against him. Fedor has the power to knock Brock out, but he has to do it fast or Brocks's punches are going to crush him. Fedor is not a good striker. What he has is great power. In the figt against Arlovski he was taking a beating until he put Arlovski to sleep with a punch to the chin. The fact he struggled against Arlovski suggests he wouldn't last against Brock Lesnar standing up because Lesnar is just as fast in delivering punches as Arlovski and his strikes are much more powerful. Fedor needs to finish it fast or take him to the ground.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

  

[George Whorewell]

I disagree with peoples assessment of Lesnar/ Fedor completely.

Lesnar doesnt have enough of a body of work, or enough of a resume to accurately calculate how a fight with Fedor would go. Really, Lesnar has not been tested yet at all. Nobody has really pushed the pace with Lesnar and tested his conditioning. Nobody has really traded with Lesnar and tested his chin. And after 5 fights, ( 2 of them which came against Frank Mir) it is impossible to predict how a fight with Fedor might go.

Thats what makes the fight with Carwin so compelling. Another big guy with great power, a good chin, good wrestling and a legit record. If Lesnar beats Carwin ( and depending on how) I think we might be able to have a serious discussion about him being able to beat Fedor. Until then, its like comparing a rookie pitcher who wins his first Cy young against Bob Gibson or Tom Seaver.

Striking, Fedor is much better. Lesnar is slower, less coordinated and so far his punching power has been utilized against Frank Mir and a washed up Texas Crazy Horse ( I dont mean ground and pound, I mean standing and striking.).

On the ground, its not even worth waisting the time to debate. Fedor has the best submissions out of any heavyweight in MMA history, except for Minotauro imo.

Experience, heart, intelligence in the ring, versatility= Fedor, Fedor, Fedor, Fedor.

Lesnar has two distinct advantages= Size/ Strength and pure wrestling. Thats it.

[suckmymuscle]

 Wow!!! Sweede you really love to suck  Caucasian  c*ck.
 First was Wolf, Wolf will do this, Wolf will do that. He did sh*t.
 Now Lesnar, lets wait and see what happens.
 And just because someone has a black belt, that doesn't meant sh*t.
 Black belt you can have one in couple of months, pay and that's it.
 You will be a shitty  black belt, but you will have one.
 Come to Brazil and you will see blue belts submitting Brown and black belts.
 

  

  Well, you got to admit that Lesnar makes BJJ irrelevant with his strength and wrestling skills. You can't give a submission if your opponent holds your arms down whilst laying on top of you.

SUCMYMUSCLE

[kevcat]

Out of curiosity how do you know Fedor is much stronger than Mir?