2nd Cycle Question

[gearsgears]

I plan to start another cycle in a month or so. I've been off for a month,
used clomid for 2 weeks and my libido is still not what it should be... How can I avoid
this problem the next time around?

Can you avoid the low libido-thing or is that just something you learn to
live with...?

[bigjoered]

What was you first cycle?  Doses and Compounds?  How long was the cycle? 

[gearsgears]

I did a short one, 4 weeks, just to try it out. Sust and Deca. Went really well.
I then did my PCT and used clomid...but I'm still not where I used to be in that department.
I'm wondering if I should try something else instead of clomid...

[gearsgears]

Like I said I had a good experience, I just haven't recovered yet and that frustrates me.
My libido is extremely low and getting it up is a bit of a problem... I didn't even do a
3 month cycle??? Is that normal?

[Schmoe Buster]

I did a short one, 4 weeks, just to try it out. Sust and Deca. Went really well.
I then did my PCT and used clomid...but I'm still not where I used to be in that department.
I'm wondering if I should try something else instead of clomid...

4 weeks on sust and deca? too short should have at least done 10-12 weeks, doing pct after a 4 week cycle wasnt good i think, go back on cycle again for 12 weeks then do pct, if you cant get your libido up use Proviron, it will help keep estrogen down and give you wood

[nunzi]

i think its in your head bro.  4 weeks isnt enough to shut you down completely to the point of no libido.  go get sum cialis.  get the juices flowing and you'll be good.  lol.  Why u only do four wks anyway.  you stopped just when it was getting going.  especially the deca.  Dont reep the benefits and gains until week for or five.

[gearsgears]

4 weeks was short, but it was my first try...so I'll do a 3 month cycle next time.
Thanks for the advice though...

[allnatural]

4 weeks was short, but it was my first try...so I'll do a 3 month cycle next time.
Thanks for the advice though...

3 months for you is way too long.

Just this time do exact cycle (test deca) for 12 weeks and you'll be happy.

[nunzi]

get all your gear on hand before you start so you dont come up short

Do 500mg wk of test enth
     400mg wk of deca

Run that for 10-12 weeks.

*Being ur first real cycle you can do test by it self for 10 wks and make great gains.



Eat big,  lift big,  sleep big.... and let the growing begin

gdluck with it bro

[gearsgears]

3 months for you is way too long.

I just this time do exact cycle (test deca) for 12 weeks and you'll be happy.

Okay, but how can I avoid the same problem afterwards? Should I take something with the
test & deca to avoid the low libido-thing?

[nunzi]

youll follow up with the proper pct. 

id run 50mg clomid ed- 3wks
         20mg nolva ed- 3wks.

wats ur stats. 

age
years training

etc
etc

[gearsgears]

My stats:

I'm 35.

Been training for 12 - 13 years.

I'm 190 pounds.

[nunzi]

i recommended a very basic pct.  it works well for me but im also 9 years younger.. no offense.  I would check in with sum of the other bro's about pct ideas.

but i feel the clomid / nolva will work

[tstmaniac]

Run hcg on cycle...500 ius on monday and thursday and finish off with clomid at the end..throw in some aromasin or nolva as well

[gearsgears]

Okay. So I should run a test and deca cycle for 12 weeks, and use
hcg during my cycle on mondays and thursdays. Finishing off with Clomid
at the end for say 2 - 3 weeks...? Does that sound right?

[local hero]

he might just be sensative to decca?... it doesnt effect me at all in that department, but my brother struggles like fuck with it, and wont touch it with a barge pole...

my 1st inject cycle was a simple sus taper,, with no pct... but i do think the taper at the end does help when comming off, altho some may dissagree

[tstmaniac]

Okay. So I should run a test and deca cycle for 12 weeks, and use
hcg during my cycle on mondays and thursdays. Finishing off with Clomid
at the end for say 2 - 3 weeks...? Does that sound right?

yup start the clomid a week and a half after your last injection of test...if your running deca, stop the deca a week or two before your last shot of test because its in your system longer...you can throw in some nolva,aromasin, or arimidex in with the clomid as well...

[gearsgears]

he might just be sensative to decca?... it doesnt effect me at all in that department, but my brother struggles like fuck with it, and wont touch it with a barge pole...

Yeah I thought about that, I might just use sustanon next time. Will see how that works...