Author Topic: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism. (Read 32838 times)

nicky.smth · « **Reply #50 on:** October 16, 2009, 07:58:10 PM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on October 16, 2009, 04:50:57 PM

Palumbo became the epitome of a physique destroyed by chemicals. Everyone knows the syndrome. Lately I have noticed another syndrome appearing that represents what happens to lots of big dudes who try to get ripped to compete. Mike Arvilla once posted that I was a gimmick account so I do owe him. Sometimes retribution takes time but is always fitting.

Arvilla is a big guy off season. 19 inch arms are not that common so he has paid his dues. However, when preparing for competition he finds he loses heaps of size and is still not that defined. He transcends into a mere novice physique instead of the big guy one expects from the before photos. He ended up with chicken legs as well. The same phenomenon happened to hapless Melvin Goodrum who used to be a big guy. He finally shed some adipose tissue but ended up looking like he took up weight lifting just months ago.

Another popular fellow that experienced Arvillaism was our own True Adonis. To get the ripped look he ended up looking like a male model who lifts weights to keep fit.

The list goes on. AVBG, Billy Guns, etc. All become mere street urchins and not he-men after the ripping process.

The truth is most bodybuilders carry a lot of bulk and when they shed some to get ripped they end up looking lean and not so big or pleasing. This is a good lesson and maybe most Getbiggers should refrain from competing because they transcend into something less as a result.

Come on now, the true Adonis came in perfect condition to the Mr Getbig contest...What do you expect, it's not like he bulked up to 300 lbs or anything off season..

nicky.smth · « **Reply #51 on:** October 16, 2009, 08:01:11 PM »

Quote from: pellius on October 16, 2009, 06:22:42 PM

Give us your honest, unvarnished, evaluation of this GetBigger's physique.

That's not exactly a muscle-bear now is it?

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #52 on:** October 16, 2009, 08:03:32 PM »

Quote from: nicky.smth on October 16, 2009, 08:01:11 PM

That's not exactly a muscle-bear now is it?

Has any picture ever screamed "keep your children away from this man" any louder than that one?

pellius · « **Reply #53 on:** October 16, 2009, 08:03:47 PM »

Quote from: PJim on October 16, 2009, 07:49:16 PM

Most if not all natural trainers of average height end up leaning out well under 200 lbs. People fail to understand the shear weight loss involved in getting cut to ribbons. Even a relatively lean, toned looking person usually has to drop a minimum of 10 pounds to get ready for a show. Btw Vince, TA holds good size for the type of condition he's displayed.

Exactly. Most people body build to get in shape and, frankly, to try to look good -- especially to the opposite sex. Few ever want to get on stage. I'm no fan of the pseudo intellectual, TA, but I have to be honest and admit he's in great shape and sports the type of build that most of the general populace aspire to and most women find attractive.

Vince B · « **Reply #54 on:** October 16, 2009, 08:05:59 PM »

Quote from: kiwiol on October 16, 2009, 07:47:06 PM

I don't get it. So what is Arvillaism?

Is it the process of losing size while dieting for a contest? Because that has always been the case, unlike Palumboism, which is a recent phenomenon.

BTW, how do you think you'd fare standing next to Mike, with both of you in your prime shape? Not asking that to flame you. After all, you both juiced.

It isn't just losing some fat for contests. It is the process of trying to get really ripped and ending up looking like a novice. Whether steroids contribute is unknown but something is happening to so many guys who enter contests. They are mere shadows of their former selves.

Adonis ended up quite small. I could care less about how cut up he was. A moderator invited me to judge the last Mr Getbig but I turned down the invitation because the guys presenting were novice grade. Most novices have little clue about bodybuilding and take competing way too seriously. Afterall, it is mostly a matter of opinion who is the best on stage.

Getbiggers think insulting someone wins the argument. Nope. That is so only for knuckleheads and wit-challenged individuals.

Vince B · « **Reply #55 on:** October 16, 2009, 08:09:35 PM »

Adonis looked no better than a lot of athletes at the Olympic games. End of story. I am not knocking him or his physique but used him as an example of a guy who lost a lot of size just to look good in the lineup. That is the price many have to pay to win even local contests. That look isn't what I call improving the physique. However, judging has changed over the years and I shudder when I realize that Steve W is still a judge. There you are.

pellius · « **Reply #56 on:** October 16, 2009, 08:11:26 PM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on October 16, 2009, 08:09:35 PM

Adonis looked no better than a lot of athletes at the Olympic games. End of story.

What better compliment to pay to Adonis. We should all look so good.

Bix · « **Reply #57 on:** October 16, 2009, 08:14:13 PM »

Vince, you make your own gym equipment?

nicky.smth · « **Reply #58 on:** October 16, 2009, 08:24:09 PM »

Quote from: pellius on October 16, 2009, 08:11:26 PM

What better compliment to pay to Adonis. We should all look so good.

Vince can you provide a shot that proves you ever looked better than Adonis at the first Mr getbig???

Vince B · « **Reply #59 on:** October 16, 2009, 08:31:27 PM »

Nicky.Smith is a bloke, right? Where do all these names and characters come from? This board resembles the Day of the Triffids.

Wee Laddy · « **Reply #60 on:** October 16, 2009, 08:48:50 PM »

You're a tool, Vince.

Is your general rule in life: If you can't compete at the top level, just give up? That's an attitude for success! It explains quite a bit about your stratospheric achievements.

I guess I can't join a softball league because I can't minimally play at a minor league player's level? I can't shoot some hoops unless I can dunk? Hell, I'm not working at a millionaire's level, maybe I should quite my job.

Mike, and others like him, enjoy the sport of bodybuilding. It's a hobby. They participate at whatever level they can, not to impress choads like you, but to gain a better appreciation of the sport.

Since nothing you have done in your life that rises to my definition of success, please die now.

kiwiol · « **Reply #61 on:** October 16, 2009, 09:31:12 PM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on October 16, 2009, 08:05:59 PM

It isn't just losing some fat for contests. It is the process of trying to get really ripped and ending up looking like a novice.

Agreed and that is one of the reasons I've never wanted to compete.

But who are you comparing these guys against? It can't be the pros, cause obviously, guys like Arvilla don't juice at that level. There are the genetic elite and then those who are not so gifted. Mike has never claimed to be pro material.

Quote from: Wee Laddy on October 16, 2009, 08:48:50 PM

not to impress choads like ~~you~~ nicky.smth, but to gain a better appreciation of the sport.

haider · « **Reply #62 on:** October 16, 2009, 10:23:50 PM »

my god cliff notes please

dyslexic · « **Reply #63 on:** October 16, 2009, 10:28:01 PM »

Quote from: haider on October 16, 2009, 10:23:50 PM

my god cliff notes please

Cliff notes: Someone is having a bad day and must blame someone for it.

Does it matter if I actually agree with him or not?

Gino30 · « **Reply #64 on:** October 16, 2009, 11:27:41 PM »

Arvilla looks pretty good....he's doing his own thing.....getting big but not wanting to ruin his health to win at all costs....thats my guess anyway

btw, you judge him like he's training for the Olympia.....strange

bigmc · « **Reply #65 on:** October 17, 2009, 12:22:00 AM »

i don't know why people even respond to the fat retarded pedo basille

self delusional fat kiddy molesters aren't entitled to an opinion

the ironic thing is that all the people he is criticising look way better than him

Vince B · « **Reply #66 on:** October 17, 2009, 01:00:15 AM »

Only on Getbig can anonymous dickheads insult others with really low accusations. Most known champions steer clear of this forum.

Arvilla blasted me in the past and I let it go. He was boasting about being a big guy with 19 inch arms. That is impressive. His condition on stage at his last show impressed some of the Flotsam who train in basements but he was a diminished Arvilla and we wonder where his muscles went.

The phenomenon of being big in the gym but quite small on stage is what Arvillaism is. I partly blame modern judging standards that reward the ripped look and disregard things like shape and aesthetics.

Good for anyone who competes. I prefer that the stage condition equates with the self-importance on Getbig. Is that too much to ask?

Vince B · « **Reply #67 on:** October 17, 2009, 01:04:09 AM »

Quote from: kiwiol on October 16, 2009, 09:31:12 PM

Agreed and that is one of the reasons I've never wanted to compete.

But who are you comparing these guys against? It can't be the pros, cause obviously, guys like Arvilla don't juice at that level. There are the genetic elite and then those who are not so gifted. Mike has never claimed to be pro material.

I am comparing Arvilla with Arvilla. Hope this helps.

wes · « **Reply #68 on:** October 17, 2009, 01:04:30 AM »

I have to say,there has never been such a complete asshole as Vince Basile on any board I`ve ever posted on!!

Congratulations Basile!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #69 on:** October 17, 2009, 01:05:16 AM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on October 16, 2009, 08:03:32 PM

Has any picture ever screamed "keep your children away from this man" any louder than that one?

_bruce_ · « **Reply #70 on:** October 17, 2009, 01:25:31 AM »

Vince destroying fragile egos left and right...

pellius · « **Reply #71 on:** October 17, 2009, 01:43:59 AM »

Quote from: wes on October 17, 2009, 01:04:30 AM

I have to say,there has never been such a complete asshole as Vince Basile on any board I`ve ever posted on!!

Congratulations Basile!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wes, always breaking it down to brass tacks.

Figo · « **Reply #72 on:** October 17, 2009, 01:49:45 AM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on October 16, 2009, 05:03:51 PM

Guys in the old days looked better because some fat gives better lines to the muscles. Today many guys end up looking weird instead of great.

Vince B · « **Reply #73 on:** October 17, 2009, 01:50:40 AM »

What amazes me about people on the net is how moralistic they are. If someone disagrees with them they lash out and attack the person. Hypocrites outnumber the fair dinkum by a large margin. How is it that these same stellar souls can castigate others in truly nasty fashion? Slander is the currency of these challenged people and they do gang up thinking they are doing a great service.

Arvilla and the others are dreamers. That is okay because you don't achieve anything valuable unless you have goals and dream of succeeding. I just find it rather amusing that the actual physiques of most Getbiggers wouldn't impress on Bondi Beach.

pellius · « **Reply #74 on:** October 17, 2009, 01:52:35 AM »

Vince, maybe the problem is that you still live in the past. You can't compete nowadays at any level unless you're at single digit body fat. No more than 7% even for a local level. That's not easy for anyone let alone someone trying to do it and hold on to some muscle. If the big version of Mike competed against the "small" version the leaner version will win every time. Maybe not to you but nobody cares what you think.

Leave Mike alone. He's a good guy and loves bodybuilding. Like the other guy said, you don't have to be top of the top to compete. When you have a competition coming up, whatever it is, life takes on a different meaning. You have this heighten sense of awareness and purpose. It doesn't matter if it's Mr. Florida or Mr. Newton Street. You have a goal that you're working for.

It's called living. Try it sometime.