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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #175 on: October 18, 2009, 06:31:03 PM »
I think you should worry about your other condition: homosexuality

What's your point? Remember kid, It's only gay if you want it to be.

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #176 on: October 18, 2009, 06:39:56 PM »
FWIW  Melvince actually looks OK in his latest shots, he has improved considerably

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #177 on: October 18, 2009, 07:10:35 PM »
FWIW  Melvince actually looks OK in his latest shots, he has improved considerably
True...have to give him credit for showing some discipline.

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #178 on: October 18, 2009, 07:13:04 PM »
vince/melvin is known as a "mark" in the wrestling business

I was gonna call him a "jabroni" but that is a term only reserved for wrestlers to use on other wrestlers

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #179 on: October 18, 2009, 07:23:39 PM »
Vince you old fruitcake, you say you design and build your own gym equipment, show us proof your old dork!

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« Reply #180 on: October 18, 2009, 07:30:36 PM »
There is only one 'Vince' in this thread and he is straight. The other is named Melvin Goodrum and he lives with a bloke. The story goes that Melvin was a professional wrestler called Venom Vince Versace and the name Vince stuck. Of course, there is no record of anyone using that handle wrestling anywhere in the Carolinas. A wrestler did confirm that Melvin used to shout out insults at wrestlers and some wanted to wring his neck. Melvin insists he was hired to warm up the crowd and was very good at stirring people up. The crowd used to throw soda bottles and other stuff at him! A guy like Melvin hardly wants to use his real name on line so came up with the legendary Vince G CSN MFT.
Goodrum is this true seems quite a story?

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #181 on: October 18, 2009, 07:44:22 PM »
My real name is Horace Bradley, why do you want to know that?

I am an immigrant from Syria. I came here on a B1visa then changed it to F1visa. I was in college until my family followed me to the USA. Then I could not afford my college fund so I stopped to take care of my family. After 9/11 the immigration told me I had to register with them. Then they took my passport, F1visa, and my i-94. So I have lived in the USA for the past 12 years without authorization to work. I have done a couple newspaper routes to support my family (which can only support them so far). Recently my driver’s license expired and the BMV said I could not renew my license without papers from immigration. (what papers?!). So now I live in the "land of the free" without a license and the authorization to work. Now you tell me is that fair? I have a clean history with everything. All three of my boy's( 6,10,13 yrs.) do well in school. I don’t drink, smoke, or anything. My main goal is to raise my kids in a free place.

Hope this helps

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« Reply #182 on: October 18, 2009, 07:46:49 PM »
Guys who compete are risking damage to themselves by losing too much fat. The body sheds muscle before it wants to shed fat. That is why so many lose size when trying to cut up for contests. The extreme dry look might impress judges but is a dangerous state to be in. Goodness knows what fellows do chemically to their bodies to achieve the ripped look. People are getting ill and risking death in the attempt to look good on stage. When so much size is lost you have to wonder why guys would do that just to win those cheap trophies. I think we have gone too far.

Competitor after competitor from Getbig have gone through this ordeal only to present with a very depleted looking physique that hardly impresses onlookers. I have seen this happen to popular guys in the good old days and some just lost way too much size in the process. I doubt the judging will change so expect more guys to get sick or depleted on stage. We used to boast about our health as bodybuilders. Today that can't be done except in the naturals and even they are going to extremes to win titles.

In my opinion, Steve Reeves still looks better than the modern giants of professional bodybuilding.

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« Reply #183 on: October 18, 2009, 07:57:03 PM »
Hope this helps

How'd you dig up that old post!!!

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #184 on: October 18, 2009, 08:05:14 PM »
Guys who compete are risking damage to themselves by losing too much fat. The body sheds muscle before it wants to shed fat. That is why so many lose size when trying to cut up for contests. The extreme dry look might impress judges but is a dangerous state to be in. Goodness knows what fellows do chemically to their bodies to achieve the ripped look. People are getting ill and risking death in the attempt to look good on stage. When so much size is lost you have to wonder why guys would do that just to win those cheap trophies. I think we have gone too far.

Competitor after competitor from Getbig have gone through this ordeal only to present with a very depleted looking physique that hardly impresses onlookers. I have seen this happen to popular guys in the good old days and some just lost way too much size in the process. I doubt the judging will change so expect more guys to get sick or depleted on stage. We used to boast about our health as bodybuilders. Today that can't be done except in the naturals and even they are going to extremes to win titles.

In my opinion, Steve Reeves still looks better than the modern giants of professional bodybuilding.


Above shows you have no clue why people do actually compete.  Its not for the trophy, its for the sense of accomplishment. I thought you were older and should know better and having supposedly competed yourself many years ago would understand.  How do you have any idea how much juice they take, maybe its just a couple dianabol tablets like you claim to have taken.

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #185 on: October 18, 2009, 10:05:43 PM »
What the hell, Vince n' Melvin are going at it again?  I knew there was a reason to stick around!

Two things:

Melvin, you're a fucking horrible "bodybuilder". 

Vince, what's your 'in a nutshell' solution to Avillaism (sic?)?

...one final note: 

Melvin, you're a fucking terrible 'bodybuilder'.

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« Reply #186 on: October 18, 2009, 10:17:20 PM »
Guys who compete are risking damage to themselves by losing too much fat. The body sheds muscle before it wants to shed fat. That is why so many lose size when trying to cut up for contests. The extreme dry look might impress judges but is a dangerous state to be in. Goodness knows what fellows do chemically to their bodies to achieve the ripped look. People are getting ill and risking death in the attempt to look good on stage. When so much size is lost you have to wonder why guys would do that just to win those cheap trophies. I think we have gone too far.

Competitor after competitor from Getbig have gone through this ordeal only to present with a very depleted looking physique that hardly impresses onlookers. I have seen this happen to popular guys in the good old days and some just lost way too much size in the process. I doubt the judging will change so expect more guys to get sick or depleted on stage. We used to boast about our health as bodybuilders. Today that can't be done except in the naturals and even they are going to extremes to win titles.

In my opinion, Steve Reeves still looks better than the modern giants of professional bodybuilding.

they are losing fat not muscle

weight training in a fasted state is anti-catabolic

people tend to carry a lot more fat than they realise

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #187 on: October 18, 2009, 11:33:58 PM »
they are losing fat not muscle

weight training in a fasted state is anti-catabolic

people tend to carry a lot more fat than they realise

Fat? They are losing water as much as anything.

This "sport" is extremely unhealthy and a guy like Arvilla goes from looking muscular a few months before the show to the average-starved-man look during the show.

Vince Basile is a genius who has invented many things and flotsam like you should listen to a genius.

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« Reply #188 on: October 19, 2009, 12:04:22 AM »
I am no genius but few bodybuilders invent anything re gym equipment.

It is naive to think that only fat and water are shed when trimming down to compete. Lots of muscle evaporates. We can blame our distant, primitive ancestors. Apparently, fat is more important to survival than muscle tissue. As you get older you will discover that you lose muscle first and fat second.

Some accuse me of forgetting why guys enter contests. Nope, I realize they want to transcend themselves and get acknowledged for their physiques. Nothing wrong with that. However, going by what the Flotsam post here I am afraid most have no clue whatsoever about building muscle so default to using steroids and other chemical means. Is it any surprise when these challenged souls try to cut up and end up drawn and small? The same mentality finds them painting their bodies prior to contests instead of getting a tan. The whole sport is unhealthy and a sham.

Avilla would be better off just staying big and forgetting about getting up on stage in posing briefs. He can do as he pleases but we observers can comment on what he presents as a bodybuilder. Personally, no one should ever compete with calves under 16 inches. That is my opinion. I know some are not blessed in that muscle but there you are. Getting ripped and losing a lot of size is plain lunacy. These contests mean very little.

I hope this helps. By the way, look at the lack of respect I get even though I am a national champion. Most here couldn't carry my gym bag! So don't tell me that winning a contest is a worthy goal of Getbiggers.

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« Reply #189 on: October 19, 2009, 12:11:59 AM »
I am no genius but few bodybuilders invent anything re gym equipment.

It is naive to think that only fat and water are shed when trimming down to compete. Lots of muscle evaporates. We can blame our distant, primitive ancestors. Apparently, fat is more important to survival than muscle tissue. As you get older you will discover that you lose muscle first and fat second.

Some accuse me of forgetting why guys enter contests. Nope, I realize they want to transcend themselves and get acknowledged for their physiques. Nothing wrong with that. However, going by what the Flotsam post here I am afraid most have no clue whatsoever about building muscle so default to using steroids and other chemical means. Is it any surprise when these challenged souls try to cut up and end up drawn and small? The same mentality finds them painting their bodies prior to contests instead of getting a tan. The whole sport is unhealthy and a sham.

Avilla would be better off just staying big and forgetting about getting up on stage in posing briefs. He can do as he pleases but we observers can comment on what he presents as a bodybuilder. Personally, no one should ever compete with calves under 16 inches. That is my opinion. I know some are not blessed in that muscle but there you are. Getting ripped and losing a lot of size is plain lunacy. These contests mean very little.

I hope this helps. By the way, look at the lack of respect I get even though I am a national champion. Most here couldn't carry my gym bag! So don't tell me that winning a contest is a worthy goal of Getbiggers.



... few will read this shit. Please move along.

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #190 on: October 19, 2009, 12:21:50 AM »
I like mike but i'd like to see some calf improvement before he competes again...

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« Reply #191 on: October 19, 2009, 12:37:11 AM »
Vince Basile is a hypocrite he has said in the past few getbiggers have proven themselves on stage etc etc now the ones who do don't get respect from him...

To spend 10 or more years training to get up on stage in posing trunks is not for the weak. Enterring a contest takes nerve, dedication and discipline.

Hey, Goatboy, glad you like the photos from my high school reunion. Look like I have a fan club, afterall!

I can only imagine what anonymous guys like Goatboy have achieved in life. This specimen dares not post a photo so we can conclude he has never put on posing trunks and competed. That is typical of Getbiggers who feed off guys like me who have done just about everything in the sport.
 


Well, it is the rare person who actually competes. The vast majority just train to get bigger and stronger but most never reach their potential.

Vince what will you think 2 months down the track? wheres the conviction? wheres the passion?  or are you going senile?

Why does it matter to you if someone loses what you perceive to be muscle tissue? its not like it affects you... If that where the case why don't you fuckin get your act together and train again after all sarcopenia is knocking right at your door... should we then advise people not to age?

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #192 on: October 19, 2009, 12:46:32 AM »
This is Getbig where little anonymous dudes blast Olympia competitors. So don't tell me commenting on depleted heroes like Arvilla and Goodrum is out of bounds. These guys can argue for themselves, but why get up on stage looking like that? That defies anything associated with sensible or intelligent. That some wannabes support these hapless souls is acknowledged but these guys ended up way too small in my opinion. Goodrum pontificates like he is some big guy. The raw reality is he is just a perpetual novice grade competitor. Arvilla should know better than to get up on stage with no calves. I don't care how many supporters he has that doesn't make his calves even average.

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« Reply #193 on: October 19, 2009, 12:47:55 AM »
Look at the bodyweights of the bodybuilders as they progress throughout their competition years... Jason Cutler never stepped on stage at his massive 265lbs ripped condition at his first, second or third show yet he was doing EVERYTHING in his power to be the best he could be at those shows. The rebound effect... you go from the 5-6% back to the 12-15% to gain NEW muscle... fucks sake I thought you knew about bodybuilding... you can't just keep going from 15%BF...

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #194 on: October 19, 2009, 12:58:13 AM »
ARVILLA WILL EVEN TELL YOU HE WAS SCARED TO COMPETE BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SIZE IN HIS EARLIER YEARS

that was the exact thought process which led to mass exodus of intramuscular/subcutaneous fat and water leading to a view of what he actually was... not that big afterall...

Not our fault he decided to first compete at that age...

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« Reply #195 on: October 19, 2009, 01:09:57 AM »
My point is quite simple. Arvilla is a big dude. He doesn't need to compete as a novice to impress anyone on Getbig. When he does and comes in depleted it is hardly impressive. Sure he has lots of definition but where did his big muscles go? That is Arvillaism. Others are afflicted, too, so this is a physical syndrome of brutal proportions in reverse.

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« Reply #196 on: October 19, 2009, 01:15:11 AM »
we've seen it time and time again... that "bulky" guy diets down to reveal a less than stellar musculature... oh he was "big" wasn't he? yeah but so is 2/3 of America and not in a good way its just he is in the gym and carries himself in a different way i.e. "grrr strong man" haha where is strength when that 40-50lbs of fat/leverage disappears

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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #197 on: October 19, 2009, 02:08:36 AM »
I couldn't read this whole thread.  Too much reading.  But in short I see Vince B ragging on Mike A.  I gotta tell you Vince you are way off on this one.  First off Mike was a big guy.  He is over 6'2" I think and was weighing 270 or so.  I think he looks great.  Not champion great but unreal considering he did it in front of our eyes and in not a long time.  One thing Mike is, is someone who is very passionate about bodybuilding.  He takes it serious and he proved it by dieting down.  And he definately is built like he lifts weights.  So he at least lives a bodybuilding lifestyle.  And it is even cooler to have someone like his girlfriend to be there and live it with him.  MAN I wish I had that. 

As much sports as I played and achievements I have had I could never ever diet down to what he did.  I give Mike HUGE props for that.  The last time anyone mentioned bodybuilding and me in the same sentence was back in 80' or 81' at World's Gym when Joe Gold said I should enter a bodybuilding show and powerlifting meet in the same year cause I could win both and be the first one to do that (not sure if that is true or not, but it was kind of neat he said that).  I remember me saying no way and asking him if I could wear OP shorts on stage.  Those were the only kind I wore.  I weighed about 247 or so and benched 500.  And this was 100% drug free and in a t-shirt.  When I decided to take up armwrestling cause I couldn't play ball anymore I weighed about 260 or so when I started.  SuperHeavyweight class was 220 and above.  I knew I couldn't get down to Heavyweight and at 260 I was very small for the Superheavyweight class so I decided to get bigger.  My goal was to compete at 300.  I was still fairly small but I was pretty quick and I was stronger than most anybody in that class.  I lacked the technique though compared to them.  Zumwalt was weighing 360 then, Dean was over 600, and most other guys were around 330 or so.  Some smaller guys competed but had years of technique behind them.

I never had to diet.  My metabolism was pretty high considering the shit I ate and I couldn't gain anymore weight.  I trained very very hard and burned calories like hell.  But I never could get a six pack.  I had a 4 pack for awhile.  I never got really vascular except my forearms (nothing like Hazbin, not even close).  But I did have them and I had veins in my chest.  I never wanted to bodybuild.  Never entered my mind.  I just could not diet.  For almost a year Tony Pearson and Waller and my training partner had me on this tuna and water diet.  I did great when I was with them but when I was with my friends I went out all the time.  So anyone ragging on Mike is way off. 

I am surprised that Basile is doing this.  I know alot of you rag on Basile but he had his day too.  No matter what you say at the time he was a bodybuilder and he competed.  He lived his life as a bodybuilder and even today he owns a huge gym and is still in the industry.  To whoever asked to see his machines.  I have seen them.  he is quite the fabricator and welder.  I personally think his machines do the job but I think they might be a little over built.  But, then maybe he did it for strength and to have them last longer.

As for Goodrum.  He is far from being a bodybuilder.  I have never ever met anyone who is as delusional and full of shit as he is.  When people constantly make fun of him he comes back as if it was a compliment.  He does NOT live any part of his life as a bodybuilder.  he does NOT lift weights, he does not diet (he might do a little of this but only because he can't afford to buy food sometimes).  He talksso much shit and is caught in lies all the time.  For some reason he thinks he impresses people on the internet with his bullshit, but everybody just laughs at him.  And a huge bullshit thing is how he thinks he is "in the know" in bodybuilding or anything else.  That is the most annoying thing.  Anyway, I am done ranting.  I am watching Wrong Turn  3on MovieSister and it has me believing Goodrum is indeed an inbreed.
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Re: First Palumboism and now Arvillaism.
« Reply #198 on: October 19, 2009, 02:24:11 AM »
Commenting on someone's physique doesn't mean we are bagging that person as an individual. Contests are great things to motivate us to improve. The reality of modern judging is we have to lose a lot more fat than we might like to get ripped. What I am commenting on is the process of getting ripped glutes makes most wannabes look the worse for it. They lose too much size and end up looking like novices. The painted tans make them look even more weird.

Keith is right about dieting and getting ripped. The older you get the more difficult it is. So, I do give credit to Arvilla and even hapless Goodrum for showing up in better shape than was expected. The whole style of bodybuilding at the lower levels has changed and nowadays the ripped guys are not that big anymore. Whether this remains we cannot say but I can't see the standards changing. This ripped look has had a bad effect on the women who now look the worse for it. Add the fake boobs and you have created bodies that are new to the universe.

It remains to be seen if Arvilla and Goodrum will remain lean. Well, Goodrum wasn't close to where Mike was but he was heaps better than the Billy Guns showdown where he presented with an off the street physique of someone who never lifted a weight in his life. The howls from everyone watching were legendary.

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« Reply #199 on: October 19, 2009, 02:31:47 AM »
haha does goodrum have any dignity?