Author Topic: New IFBB Pro Rules :The posing routine will not be scored? (Read 30584 times)

musclecenter · « **on:** October 17, 2009, 05:29:35 AM »

http://www.ifbbpro.com/news/advisory-notice-101409/
The posing routine will no longer be scored.
This will value the prejudging and Finals Posedown at 50% each.

Discuss

musclecenter · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2009, 06:46:54 AM »

Finals Posedown is top 6 or top 15 ?

Method101 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2009, 06:50:40 AM »

Maybe this will spark a return of props, and we can see ronnie as moses again LOL.

Meso_z · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2009, 07:09:41 AM »

a lot of posing routines where just rediculus, robot dancing, strip posing etc.

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2009, 02:42:46 PM »

If it's true that the posing routine wouldn't be scored it would be a big mistake. A good presentation is like the icing on the cake. It's a sad fact that so many great physiques pose so boring, insecure, (too) fast, sloppy and mostly a combination of this $:-\$

dr.chimps · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2009, 02:57:37 PM »

If it's not to be scored, then why include it!?

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2009, 02:59:11 PM »

dr.chimps · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2009, 03:07:18 PM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on October 17, 2009, 02:59:11 PM

Great player. Terrible human being.

MB · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2009, 03:12:22 PM »

In the end, it does not matter. The posing round was scored on who had the best physique, not who was the best poser. That always brought a lot of confusion, because some people lost sight of the fact that it's a bodybuilding show. No matter if they're doing quarter turns, mandatory poses, or free posing, it will always be judged on the physique.

medici · « **Reply #9 on:** October 17, 2009, 05:20:37 PM »

I have always said that if an IFBB Pro posed shocking and had a better physique he wins over a better poser with a less physique many argued that if a guy can pose better he could win.What a load of crap.Next they will delete the posing altogether.

Chick · « **Reply #10 on:** October 17, 2009, 07:06:10 PM »

Quote from: MB on October 17, 2009, 03:12:22 PM

In the end, it does not matter. The posing round was scored on who had the best physique, not who was the best poser. That always brought a lot of confusion, because some people lost sight of the fact that it's a bodybuilding show. No matter if they're doing quarter turns, mandatory poses, or free posing, it will always be judged on the physique.

Well said...

Thwe bottom line is that the "posing round" has never been scored as such, and gave the false impression that this was a round in which someone with the best posing could actually move up...

By eliminating the actual scoring of this round, we open it up to awarding PRIZE MONEY to someone that actually HAS the best routine/ most entertaining, etc...without compromising the judging.

The other objective was having the posedown count..if were going to have 2 day shows, then BOTH should count as such, and athletes should have a chance to catch up/ show that they have the better physique. The posing at a BB show is a showcase of the physique and we need to start expanding the thinking into more entertainment and putting out "shows" rather than competitions (which are for the most part, a giant snooze fest)...prejudging= competition...finals=entertainment

nzmusclemonster · « **Reply #11 on:** October 17, 2009, 07:15:45 PM »

As long as I see men in thongs I will be happy.

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #12 on:** October 17, 2009, 07:17:26 PM »

Quote from: nzmusclemonster on October 17, 2009, 07:15:45 PM

As long as I see men in thongs I will be happy.

x2

Original Sin · « **Reply #13 on:** October 17, 2009, 08:06:30 PM »

Chick has been presenting this scenario for a while.

I think the posing routine should be optional with a good prize amount....

50K winner take all.
Take it right off the top of the Mr O. prize.

No matter who wins the Olympia is going to clear 50K easy in endorsements.

The fans like the posing round. Just listen to them at a show.
Lets have it full of people who want and can do it, for a good prize.

What do you think about that Bob?

musclecenter · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2009, 08:34:13 PM »

Finals Posedown will be a fight between competitors I think

Chick · « **Reply #15 on:** October 17, 2009, 08:59:50 PM »

Quote from: Original Sin on October 17, 2009, 08:06:30 PM

Chick has been presenting this scenario for a while.

I think the posing routine should be optional with a good prize amount....

50K winner take all.
Take it right off the top of the Mr O. prize.

No matter who wins the Olympia is going to clear 50K easy in endorsements.

The fans like the posing round. Just listen to them at a show.
Lets have it full of people who want and can do it, for a good prize.

What do you think about that Bob?

You're right, I've had this on the table for the last 2 years.

I'm all for a big money prize, it makes more sense, and certainly will inspire more athletes to put together better routines...money motivates and it will be open to anyone in the show who can present the best, not just the top 6.

What doesnt motivate is (was) the current system where the guys KNOW they're not really being judged...

Time to get with the times

jwb · « **Reply #16 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:12:40 PM »

i think this is good so the judges can concentrate on judging the bodies and not whether they prefer a pop and lock routine to a heavy metal routine.

io856 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:17:12 PM »

good riddance

Vince B · « **Reply #18 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:39:05 PM »

Bob, were the judges' scores published from the Olympia? Would be interesting to see if any changed their scores on Day 2.

I notice you use the word 'we' when talking about what the Pro League is going to do. Seems to me you are one of the back room boys and not the fair dinkum pro athletes rep you were appointed to be.

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #19 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:39:57 PM »

Quote from: DroppingPlates on October 17, 2009, 02:42:46 PM

If it's true that the posing routine wouldn't be scored it would be a big mistake. A good presentation is like the icing on the cake. It's a sad fact that so many great physiques pose so boring, insecure, (too) fast, sloppy and mostly a combination of this $:-\$

Outed

medici · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:45:01 PM »

Posing Round has always been a JOKE.

Alex23 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2009, 10:03:25 PM »

Quote from: nzmusclemonster on October 17, 2009, 07:15:45 PM

As long as I see men in thongs I will be happy.

X3.

io856 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 17, 2009, 10:07:34 PM »

"posing rounds" are best saved for muscleweb, muscletv etc... lets face it... not all of us move like Milos Sarcev

Alex23 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 17, 2009, 10:11:45 PM »

I was talking to Ronnie on the phone the other day, he mentioned he would like something called "Challenge Round" to be re-introduced.

Chick · « **Reply #24 on:** October 18, 2009, 05:16:02 AM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on October 17, 2009, 09:39:05 PM

Bob, were the judges' scores published from the Olympia? Would be interesting to see if any changed their scores on Day 2.

I notice you use the word 'we' when talking about what the Pro League is going to do. Seems to me you are one of the back room boys and not the fair dinkum pro athletes rep you were appointed to be.

Changed from what to what? The athletes get judged on Sat...

I use the word WE as I am a part of the pro league and represent the athletes interests...who do you think proposes the changes? In order to represent the "fair dinkum", one needs to have a voice at the table...not quite sure what "back room" YOU'RE used to being in...but the Pro League meeting minutes are posted, as in the case of this thread.

ImBasile

Author Topic: New IFBB Pro Rules :The posing routine will not be scored? (Read 30584 times)

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