Exactly When Did We Aa a Nation Start Hating Rich People??

[tonymctones]

it's the super rich I hate.  I'm not talking about someone with a few hundred thousand or million.  billionares, I can't stand.  People who are born into vast wealth and act like they're better than everyone by birthright, I can't stand those fuckers and have no respect for them.

you must hate the shit out of adonis then 

[Skip8282]

it's the super rich I hate.  I'm not talking about someone with a few hundred thousand or million.  billionares, I can't stand.  People who are born into vast wealth and act like they're better than everyone by birthright, I can't stand those fuckers and have no respect for them.

So it's more a behavioral issue?  Are you OK with someone like Bill Gates who is in the process of donating the vast majority of his earnings.  From the media in general, he seems to be a pretty decent guy.  Of course, I don't work with him...

[240 is Back]

I also hate celebs acting like royalty.

susan sarandon for example

[ToxicAvenger]

it's the super rich I hate.  I'm not talking about someone with a few hundred thousand or million.  billionares, I can't stand.  People who are born into vast wealth and act like they're better than everyone by birthright, I can't stand those fuckers and have no respect for them.

why?   they did absolutely NOTHING to harm you and at somepoint along their family line...SOMEONE worked hard...and made good financial decisions

i lived a comfy life at home for YEARS without any work......cause my dad worked HIS ass off when he ws young...what if i work my ass off till i'm 70 now...i dont want my kids to work...i want it easy for them...
if someones great grampaw ws poor , then his grandpaw ws poor and then his dad ws poor and then he is poor...conclusion...that person comes from a long line of fuckups i'm thinking genetically stupid

if you must hate some rich people...fine....hate the people that win the lottery...and hate idiots like rappers and those jon and kate idiots that get paid big $

[ToxicAvenger]

Hard work is only one part of the equation.  Smart work and politics are just as important. 

of course it is.....if you think you can go to work looking like a slob or being the quite guy and getting a promotion JUST on your smarts..you r mistaken...

but i'm in a technical world...politix plays a softer role here in my world...i can get away with putting on a pair of jeans and going to teach a corporate class if on the subject matter
1) i'm absolutely brilliant at the subject matter
2) i'm halfway decent entertaining in class

[Hugo Chavez]

you must hate the shit out of adonis then 

you already know I do.  That guy is delusional.  I really think he just makes up his own reality as he goes.

[Hugo Chavez]

susan sarandon for example

really?  Sarandon acts like royalty?  I always saw her acting pretty down to earth in public.  A lot of celebs get a serious chip on their shoulders and act like they're better than everyone just because they act in movies, oh brother.  I'm not talking about having an opinion in public, I don't have a problem with them doing that.  Maybe I'm wrong but I haven't got the royal attitude from Sarandon.

[Hugo Chavez]

why?   they did absolutely NOTHING to harm you and at somepoint along their family line...SOMEONE worked hard...and made good financial decisions

i lived a comfy life at home for YEARS without any work......cause my dad worked HIS ass off when he ws young...what if i work my ass off till i'm 70 now...i dont want my kids to work...i want it easy for them...
if someones great grampaw ws poor , then his grandpaw ws poor and then his dad ws poor and then he is poor...conclusion...that person comes from a long line of fuckups i'm thinking genetically stupid

if you must hate some rich people...fine....hate the people that win the lottery...and hate idiots like rappers and those jon and kate idiots that get paid big $

On the contrary there toxic, these people often have no problem increasing their riches at the expense of others.  They often have no morality or ethics in what they do.  And you might just write it off to that just being the nature of business but it doesn't mean I have to like it or that they don't do anything to harm people because that's just bullshit.  They'll hurt people without even blinking or giving it a second thought.

[ToxicAvenger]

On the contrary there toxic, these people often have no problem increasing their riches at the expense of others.  They often have no morality or ethics in what they do.  And you might just write it off to that just being the nature of business but it doesn't mean I have to like it or that they don't do anything to harm people because that's just bullshit.  They'll hurt people without even blinking or giving it a second thought.

the number of folks u describe can be counted in the thousands....

[Hugo Chavez]

the number of folks u describe can be counted in the thousands....

yea, so?

[gcb]

They take more than they need/deserve and make the rest of us work just that little harder just to tread water where we are.

[Parker]

There is a saying. "The first gen builds the wealth, the second gen consolidates the wealth, and the third gen spends it". That my friends is what is happening now. What I don't like is how the rich act like they are above the law. That they don't have to abide by the laws like everyone else. Or even schooling. Were ever you go in this world there are two people who control everything, and they usually go hand in hand. That is the Rich and the Educated. Do you think everybody at the Ivy League schools got there because of good grades? Do you think Bush or Kerry got to Yale because they were best damn students?

I agree that many rich people have worked hard, but many have worked hard at brown-nosing, and when it shows, it shows hard.

Today's America is not built on hard work, the majority of Americans are slackers, whiners and our society is nothing more than a enabling society. From the Courts o down. You don't speak English, well here pick a language, w have to learn it so that WE can communicate with you. You have a drug problem? Well, we will put you on a drug to substitute the drug that you are addicted to.

Your man beats you and you go back, well, it's not Your fault if he hits you again. Are you a man, and your girlfriend hits you? well, you deserved it, just sit there and take it.

Are you a black male who is good at sports? Well we will tracked through all the good sports programs, nevermind schooling for your mind, and if you fuck up, it's not our fault, we'll just find another black buck ($ for colleges) to take your place.


Slackers and Ho's, Pimps and Users, that is what America boils down to. If you are not a slacker then you are Ho. If you are not a Pimp, then you are a User. 
   

[Soul Crusher]

everfucking body wants to talk about "helping the little guy" and taxing the rich  

what the fuck ever happened to working your ass of and also being rich? instead of constantly whining about other peoples success....


whats next...the kid who gets 100% in school will have to hand 20% of his grade over to the dumbfuck that got 40% can pass?  

We have become a slothful, lazy, envious, and wasteful population. 

The lazy dont want to do shit, and want to point the finger at everyone with more than themselves and elect people they think are going to play Robin Hood.  Because in their demented views it is the "moral" thing to do, they have no problem being honest about it. 

Now dont get me wrong, I loathe the wall street banksters and Brooks Brothers gang.  To me, those are the scum of the earth and probably should be blown up. 

However, for anyone to begrudge another person of trying to become wealthy off of developing a service or product that is in demand or adds value to another persons business or life to me is just a stupid POS. 

Without a potential incentive to recoup your investment, why would anyone ever pay a lot of money to go $$$, invest their savings in a new business, etc? 

And what is rich?  I am in NYC and someone making 500K in salary is not rich.  After taxes, that is about 5k a week.  Add in a mortgage, car, tuition etc, and that person is very well off, but not rich. 

Finally, people who make a lot in salary are not rich.  most doctors and lawyers are not rich, but make good salaries.  However, uninformed dolts think these professionals are rich when these people make 250k a year in salary.  Do those who point the finger ever stop to think that these people carry more in school loans or did not work for 4 or 7 years while pursuing that degree?  Tally that up and most professionals start out 250k in the hole before they even start working.     

People able to live off of the interest of their investments are wealthy.  There is a huge difference and people should not confuse the two.       

[Soul Crusher]

On the contrary there toxic, these people often have no problem increasing their riches at the expense of others.  They often have no morality or ethics in what they do.  And you might just write it off to that just being the nature of business but it doesn't mean I have to like it or that they don't do anything to harm people because that's just bullshit.  They'll hurt people without even blinking or giving it a second thought.

With your sentiments I fully expect you to back up my statements about George Soros and what he did to the British Pound. 

The main problem I see with these criminal banksters is that they are gambling with our money and asking the taxpayer to cover their bad bets. 

If they gamble their own fortune and make out, fine. 

Dylan Ratigan was on the radio last night as they gave him a show in NYC on Sunday nights and he detailed the fraud that Goldman and others pulled off with the CDO and CDS insurance instruments and I almost wanted to puke.

Thats called origanized crime, not getting rich.   

[ToxicAvenger]

yea, so?

well ya cant go around disliking a rich people cause a few thousand are bad while millions of em got there thru hard work

[ToxicAvenger]

They take more than they need/deserve and make the rest of us work just that little harder just to tread water where we are.

deserve?? hmmm... so the CEO of your company should give you more than you deserve just cause you need more?


keep whining about need and deserve.....i'm gonna work my ass off toget my share of the pie!

[ToxicAvenger]

That they don't have to abide by the laws like everyone else. Or even schooling. Were ever you go in this world there are two people who control everything, and they usually go hand in hand. That is the Rich and the Educated. Do you think everybody at the Ivy League schools got there because of good grades? Do you think Bush or Kerry got to Yale because they were best damn students?

i agree...but REMEMBER..bush and kerry are a minority at ivy league schools..i mean NOT everyone that lives in a ghetto is a criminal right?

I agree that many rich people have worked hard, but many have worked hard at brown-nosing, and when it shows, it shows hard.

most rich people (ie people making over a quartrer mil / yr) have worked hard period and ok so they brown nosed also...its called adapting to your environment to get ahead(darwanism) ....i'm sure they also have their pride but they set it aside for the sake of their families

From the Courts o down. You don't speak English, well here pick a language, w have to learn it so that WE can communicate with you. You have a drug problem? Well, we will put you on a drug to substitute the drug that you are addicted to.

totally agree....its the same..bowing down to the lowest deniminator

Are you a black male who is good at sports? Well we will tracked through all the good sports programs, nevermind schooling for your mind, and if you fuck up, it's not our fault, we'll just find another black buck ($ for colleges) to take your place.

 hey ..NOONE told said black guy to take easy classes and choose sociology ( ) as a major....he's got his free chance..USE IT....that argument is like blaming white people for slavery and NOT ONE WORD gets said about the black africans that sold slaves.... i dont see anyone travelling to africa to ask for reparations from the grandkids of slave traders

[Soul Crusher]

deserve?? hmmm... so the CEO of your company should give you more than you deserve just cause you need more?


keep whining about need and deserve.....i'm gonna work my ass off toget my share of the pie!

Liberalism is a severe mental disorder. 

Some idiot shows up with no skills, marginal abilities, poor work ethic, shows up drunk, has no equity at stake if the business fails and wants to complain what the owner makes?

I swear, everyone should start a business at some point in their life just so they can learn basic economics and and how business works.

you would see support for liberal economics fade away within months.     

[Soul Crusher]

i agree...but REMEMBER..bush and kerry are a minority at ivy league schools..i mean NOT everyone that lives in a ghetto is a criminal right?most rich people (ie people making over a quartrer mil / yr) have worked hard period and ok so they brown nosed also...its called adapting to your environment to get ahead(darwanism) ....i'm sure they also have their pride but they set it aside for the sake of their families totally agree....its the same..bowing down to the lowest deniminator  hey ..NOONE told said black guy to take easy classes and choose sociology ( ) as a major....he's got his free chance..USE IT....that argument is like blaming white people for slavery and NOT ONE WORD gets said about the black africans that sold slaves.... i dont see anyone travelling to africa to ask for reparations from the grandkids of slave traders

250k in salary in a lot of cities is not rich.  Its middle class in Manhattan. 

[ToxicAvenger]

250k in salary in a lot of cities is not rich.  Its middle class in Manhattan. 

i used to have friends in NYC....most made 150k/yr and when i saw their living conditions...i considered them poor...

i'd never live in NYC

but a 250k salary in NYC is also easy to come by......

[Soul Crusher]

i used to have friends in NYC....most made 150k/yr and when i saw their living conditions...i considered them poor...

i'd never live in NYC

but a 250k salary in NYC is also easy to come by......

That is why I laugh at left wingers and their utter foolishness and child-like mentality on most economic issues.  THEY ARE FREAKING CLUELESS. 

In manhattan, someone making 250k a year takes home about half.  Is 125k a year rich when a studio apartment goes for $1,750 a month and a two or three bedroom goes for 3000 a month?

Additionally, someone at that salary level is working day and night.   

[Soul Crusher]

That is why I laugh at left wingers and their utter foolishness and child-like mentality on most economic issues.  THEY ARE FREAKING CLUELESS. 

In manhattan, someone making 250k a year takes home about half.  Is 125k a year rich when a studio apartment goes for $1,750 a month and a two or three bedroom goes for 3000 a month?

Additionally, someone at that salary level is working day and night.   

Another thing, it amazes me how teachers, firemen, cops, govt workers, complain when on an hourly basis, and counting the value of the pensions they get, they earn more on an hourly basis than almost anyone else. 

At least in NY that is how it is. 

I have friends who are cops who make 175k a year, and can retire after 20 years with a pension at 50% of their last years' salary, plus health benefits, FOR LIFE! 

If I had to do everything over again, I would have become a NYFD fireman and gone to law school at night, and do what I do on the side.  By 42 y/o I could collect a pension of about 80k a year for life plus full benes and still have my business going. 

But lets attack private entrpreneurs and those evil people who make 250k a year.

Whats hysterical to me is that under the liberal mentality, people who earn 249k a year are not rich, but someone who makes 250k a year is rich.  They make no distinction as to where the person lives and the cost of living and tax rates in the place where the person works.

   

[Butterbean]

They take more than they need/deserve and make the rest of us work just that little harder just to tread water where we are.

How do they do this 

[Soul Crusher]

How do they do this 

I say the same thing to anyone and everyone who complains about their pay, employment, etc:

IF YOU DONT LIKE YOUR JOB - LEAVE IT AND START YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND PAY YOURSELF WHAT YOU THINK YOU ARE WORTH!

[shootfighter1]

I have no problems with people who are creating jobs and products being rich, they deserve it for creating something and/or creating employment for others.  People must understand if we crucify these folks with extreme taxation, we will negatively affect the overall economy of the country.

On the other hand, people like bankers and athletes who make millions aren't helping create jobs or products for others so I have less admiration for them.

People who start businesses, work hard, and take major risks should be rewarded.  (and shouldn't have sky high corporate or personal tax rates).
This administration has particularly demonized wealthy people and private business.  How simple it would be to reduce the corporate tax rate so businesses can spend and hire more...but they refuse.
What they don't get is that many of those wealthy people drive the economy and jobs through business.  Take them out and the gov steps in...then the overall GDP and production of the country goes down and there are less overall jobs.

No one making under 1 million/year should pay more than 25% taxes IMO.  We must force the gov to spend less.  Even if you make $100,000 per year, with total taxation (all taxes), you're probably giving close to 40% to the local, city and state governments.  How the hell is that acceptible?!