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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2009, 09:20:59 PM »
good stuff

Nosaka K, Newton M. Repeated Eccentric Exercise Bouts Do Not Exacerbate Muscle Damage and Repair. Journal of Strength and Conditioning. 2002 Feb;16(1):117-122.

McLester JR., Bishop P., & Guilliams M. Comparison of 1 and 3 day per week of equal volume resistance training in experienced subjects. Med. Sci. Sports Exrc. 1999 31(5 Supp) pp.S117

If you get a chance, check out the June 09' S&C journal on "The use of occlusion training to produce muscle hypertrophy", I read the artical and I'm cross-referencing it with other studies. Good read.

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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2009, 09:21:49 PM »
If you get a chance, check out the June 09' S&C journal on "The use of occlusion training to produce muscle hypertrophy", I read the artical and I'm cross-referencing it with other studies. Good read.
will do thanks for that

have your clients had success with it?

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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2009, 09:27:55 PM »
I haven't had a chance to apply it yet, most of athletes are still in-season, I will for the offseason.

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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2009, 11:43:55 PM »
Intensity is far, far more important than volume. The issue of volume, is a negative! As long as you tax all levels of strength you will allow for full muscular adaption. This can explain why powerlifters are very STRONG in the lifting portion of a movement but don't have the muscle size to match these amazing feats, because they're goal is to move weight through the concentric portion of the movement and don't tax the muscles ability to hold or lower a weight. I have put on 40 plus pounds of lean muscle naturally in the space of two and a half years training once every seven days and believe me  and my training partner will never go back to the notion that more is better. The keys to growth in my eyes are proper form, intensity of effort and correct application of these two taken to failure using the minimum amount of repetitions to maintain a safe, injury free body, so obviously the less reps you do, the heavier the weight, the higher the risk of injury on the working muscles. I try to combat this by finding a happy medium and fail with slightly higher reps and lower weight but still extremely low reps. You can't expect to keep failing or working to just prior to failure or anywhere inbetween for that matter with the exact same weight and limited intensity forever and expect a muscle a need or even want to grow. YES there is an upper limit you will get to and that is because there is only so big and strong a muscle can become as determined by your individual potential, the cross-sectional size of a muscle across a joint, i.e.the length of tendons e.t.c.

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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2009, 11:49:47 PM »
The key to growth is to take a shitload of drugs and hopefully you have great genetic response and you are set.

Also you have to lift consistent. Look at Heath, perfect example of this theory ;D

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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2009, 12:32:45 AM »
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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2009, 09:35:21 AM »
I don't know what anything you guys are talking about but I do know about my strength.  I have lost about 100 pounds since I started this shit.  I am still about 150 over my normal weight i was when i competed.  My bench since june has gone from benching 225 for 2 or 3 reps to now 315 for 5 reps 3 or 4 sets.  Lately I have only been training 2 or 3 days a week.  I also know that 90% of my bench increase is due to my tricep strength.  My chest has become harder but not near as full and thick yet.  My triceps however are hard as a rock and I can do 225 close grip easy for 8 to 10 reps.  I get on the cable crossover which I was super strong at before and now I can't even do near the whole stack on a single pulley system.  I spent the first month not lifting and barbells cause I was embarrassed the first day when I could only do 225 for a couple (barely squeezing out 3).  So I only worked on the Hammer machines.  After about a month I went on the bench and it didn't go up like I thought.  So I decided to swallow some pride and start on the freeweights.  And in about 2 weeks my strength went up dramatically.  Anyway, my muscle memory seems to be very good still.  I just wish my metabolism was higher.  Any suggestion on how to increase that.
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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2009, 09:51:49 AM »
I don't know what anything you guys are talking about but I do know about my strength.  I have lost about 100 pounds since I started this shit.  I am still about 150 over my normal weight i was when i competed.  My bench since june has gone from benching 225 for 2 or 3 reps to now 315 for 5 reps 3 or 4 sets.  Lately I have only been training 2 or 3 days a week.  I also know that 90% of my bench increase is due to my tricep strength.  My chest has become harder but not near as full and thick yet.  My triceps however are hard as a rock and I can do 225 close grip easy for 8 to 10 reps.  I get on the cable crossover which I was super strong at before and now I can't even do near the whole stack on a single pulley system.  I spent the first month not lifting and barbells cause I was embarrassed the first day when I could only do 225 for a couple (barely squeezing out 3).  So I only worked on the Hammer machines.  After about a month I went on the bench and it didn't go up like I thought.  So I decided to swallow some pride and start on the freeweights.  And in about 2 weeks my strength went up dramatically.  Anyway, my muscle memory seems to be very good still.  I just wish my metabolism was higher.  Any suggestion on how to increase that.

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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2009, 10:14:00 AM »
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I guess.  Who knows though. 
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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2009, 05:01:34 PM »
Noworries what is your triceps workout like?  I think my triceps have become my "bottleneck" in my bench progress.

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Re: Reasons for sudden strenght gains, but not size?
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2009, 08:01:25 PM »
Noworries what is your triceps workout like?  I think my triceps have become my "bottleneck" in my bench progress.

Always heavy.  I always start with close grip benches.  Heavy.  No more than 6 to 8 reps 4 to to 5 sets.  I do tri pushdowns heavy 6 to 8 reps then immediately (superset) do one arm reverse with lighter weight to get out 10 to 12 reps per arm.  Do 4 to 5 sets.  Then I finish off doing overhead tri ext. on the cable with heavy weight doing 6 to 8 reps 4 to 5 sets.  Thats it.  Always heavy and always after my chest day and shoulder day.  I am a pusher and always have been.  I just didn't realize how much my tri's have lifted in my bench.  Another good tri exercise is taking two dumbbells on the incline bench and bringing them together at the top and keeping them together bring them down to the chest.  It forces only your tri's to work.  Again heavy weight. 
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