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Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« on: October 21, 2009, 07:01:48 AM »
TIME.com
By Claire Suddath Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2009


Too much sugar will make you fat, but too much artificial sweetener will ... do what exactly? Kill you? Make you thinner? Or have absolutely no effect at all? This week marks the 40th anniversary of the Food and Drug Administration's decision to ban cyclamate, the first artificial sweetener prohibited in the U.S., and yet scientists still haven't reached a consensus about how safe (or harmful) artificial sweeteners may be. Shouldn't we have figured this out by now? (See the top 10 bad beverage ideas.)

The first artificial sweetener, saccharin, was discovered in 1879 when Constantin Fahlberg, a Johns Hopkins University scientist working on coal-tar derivatives, noticed a substance on his hands and arms that tasted sweet. No one knows why Fahlberg decided to lick an unknown substance off his body, but it's a good thing he did. Despite an early attempt to ban the substance in 1911 — skeptical scientists said it was an "adulterant" that changed the makeup of food — saccharin grew in popularity, and was used to sweeten foods during sugar rationings in World Wars I and II. Though it is about 300 times sweeter than sugar and has zero calories, saccharin leaves an unpleasant metallic aftertaste. So when cyclamate came on the market in 1951, food and beverage companies jumped at the chance to sweeten their products with something that tasted more natural. By 1968, Americans were consuming more than 17 million pounds of the calorie-free substance a year in snack foods, canned fruit and soft drinks like Tab and Diet Pepsi. (See nine kid foods to avoid.)

But in the late 1960s, studies began linking cyclamate to cancer. One noted that chicken embryos injected with the chemical developed extreme deformities, leading scientists to wonder if unborn humans could be similarly damaged by their cola-drinking mothers. Another study linked the sweetener to malignant bladder tumors in rats. Because a 1958 congressional amendment required the FDA to ban any food additive shown to cause cancer in humans or animals, on Oct. 18, 1969, the government ordered cyclamate removed from all food products. (See the 10 worst fast-food meals.)

Saccharin became mired in controversy in 1977, when a study indicated that the substance might contribute to cancer in rats. An FDA move to ban the chemical failed, though products containing saccharin were required to carry warning labels. In 2000, the chemical was officially removed from the Federal Government's list of suspected carcinogens. (Read TIME's 1974 article on cyclamate and saccharin.)

In 1981, the synthetic compound aspartame was approved for use, and it capitalized on saccharin's bad publicity by becoming the leading additive in diet colas. In 1995 and 1996, misinformation about aspartame that linked the chemical to everything from multiple sclerosis to Gulf War syndrome was widely disseminated on the Internet. While aspartame does adversely effect some people — including those who are unable to metabolize the amino acid phenylalanine — it has been tested more than 200 times, and each test has confirmed that your Diet Coke is safe to drink. Nor have any health risks been detected in more than 100 clinical tests of sucralose, a chemically altered sugar molecule found in food, drinks, chewing gum and Splenda.

The fear-mongering and misinformation plaguing the faux-sweetener market seems to be rooted in a common misconception. No evidence indicates that sweeteners cause obesity; people with weight problems simply tend to eat more of it. While recent studies have suggested a possible link between artificial sweeteners and obesity, a direct link between additives and weight gain has yet to be found. The general consensus in the scientific community is that saccharin, aspartame and sucralose are harmless when consumed in moderation. And while cyclamate is still banned in the U.S., many other countries still allow it; it can even be found in the Canadian version of Sweet'n Low. Low-calorie additives won't make you thinner or curb your appetite. But they help unsweetened food taste better without harming you. And that's sweet enough.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1931116,00.html?xid=rss-fullhealthsci-yahoo

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 08:30:07 AM »
Who knows, but i wouldn't use them, if you decide to use them use them very sparingly. JMO

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 08:44:54 AM »

 I think Layne Norton has researched this a bit, and read a ton of studies. I remember reading somewhere (maybe MD?) that he had looked over thousands of studies about all the sweeteners out there and found zero proof that they are bad for you in any manner.

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 03:58:09 AM »
I would say it's just like anything else: Moderation is the key.

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 04:44:15 AM »
Sucralose is the best one.

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 04:46:33 AM »
Equal is the nicest sweetener IMO but it's hard to find in the UK.

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 06:47:43 AM »
arent they considered excitotoxins so im assuming there bad.

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 02:10:51 AM »
arent they considered excitotoxins so im assuming there bad.

You are "assuming" that they are bad?  There is no evidence that they are bad, and they've been around since the 1800s.

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 04:50:14 AM »
Here is a story about artificial sweeteners you may find interesting:

Was speaking with a guy that used to fill soda fountains such as the ones you would find at fast food places, bars, ect.  He said diet sodas used in the fountains were often sweetened with saccharin as opposed to aspartame which is typically used when you buy diet sodas in the can or bottle. 

He explained that the aspartame would “eat” through the tubing in the fountains.  So you have to figure if it’s ruining the tubing what does it do in your body?

I know many studies show they don’t hurt your health but I spoke with many people that say it gives them headaches, stomach aches, and all kind of side effects.  I seem to do ok with them but all in all I would say avoid this stuff if you can or at least use it sparingly. 

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 05:32:10 AM »
I understand the points regarding the acidic properties of soda. I know people who use it to clean tree sap from their car windows. One person I knew actually dissolved a steel nail (over time) in a glass of soda.

But don’t forget we already have acid (hydrochloric) in our stomachs all the time. And that acid digests whatever we ingest - including other acidic foods.
I’ve known countless people who drink an average of 1-2 sodas per day and still have their guts.

I don’t think it’s healthy, but I believe it’s a little non sequitur to draw comparisons between the reaction of soda on the human body vs. tree sap and roofing nails, etc.

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 11:54:48 AM »
Here is a story about artificial sweeteners you may find interesting:

Was speaking with a guy that used to fill soda fountains such as the ones you would find at fast food places, bars, ect.  He said diet sodas used in the fountains were often sweetened with saccharin as opposed to aspartame which is typically used when you buy diet sodas in the can or bottle. 

He explained that the aspartame would “eat” through the tubing in the fountains.  So you have to figure if it’s ruining the tubing what does it do in your body?

I know many studies show they don’t hurt your health but I spoke with many people that say it gives them headaches, stomach aches, and all kind of side effects.  I seem to do ok with them but all in all I would say avoid this stuff if you can or at least use it sparingly. 


Interesting!    :)

Salt eats through cars, but humans still consume salt and it doesn't eat through their tissue.

Sugar can rot your teeth, can give you a stomach ache if consumed on an empty stomach, and if you are diabetic it can put you in a coma.  It doesn't mean you can't consume sugar in moderation.

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 02:38:08 PM »
Interesting!    :)

Salt eats through cars, but humans still consume salt and it doesn't eat through their tissue.

Sugar can rot your teeth, can give you a stomach ache if consumed on an empty stomach, and if you are diabetic it can put you in a coma.  It doesn't mean you can't consume sugar in moderation.

Good Points!

Too me it’s just a risk vs. reward thing and how necessary it really is too consume it.  Like I mentioned I can consume these sweeteners with no noticeable negative effects.  For others they immediately get side effects. 

Guess you just have to decide if you really need to consume it or not.

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 03:36:15 PM »


Pac-Man;

I think the human stomach has various acids and ways to neutralize a lot of various things, and I don't think the plastic in the fountains have that, so that's why the pipes get eaten away and we do not.
Stomach acid is very acidic, near that of battery acid, as it's pH balance is usually around 2 on average, and battery acid being 0.
So that really needs to be factored into the equation in regards to the comparison of the fountain machine versus the human body too.

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2009, 04:03:21 PM »
Makes sense YoungBlood.

Regardless of what adults think of the sweetners and whether they choose to use them or not, what really pisses me off is when I see kids drinking diet sodas and their parents allowing it.  There is absolutley no logical reason to allow a kid to consume it.  Drives me nuts. 

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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2009, 08:37:39 PM »
kids drinking diet sodas and their parents allowing it.  There is absolutley no logical reason to allow a kid to consume it.  Drives me nuts. 

Yes there is.
Kids today, and parents too, are OBESE! We have like 64% of the population of the US being overweight, and the obesity is reaching epic proportions!
So, diet sodas and the others that kids may drink, is one way to cut back on calories. Less calories, less weight gain and less being made fun of by the other kids at school.
I see no reason why they can't drink diet sodas.

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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2009, 05:46:53 AM »
Yes there is.
Kids today, and parents too, are OBESE! We have like 64% of the population of the US being overweight, and the obesity is reaching epic proportions!
So, diet sodas and the others that kids may drink, is one way to cut back on calories. Less calories, less weight gain and less being made fun of by the other kids at school.
I see no reason why they can't drink diet sodas.

Sorry bro, but I completley disagree with this. 

If a kid is obese teaching them better eating and lifestyle habits as a child is the best route, not drinking diet sodas.  Get outside and play sports, be active, eat healthy foods, build confidence, ect.  I can go off all day on this one.  You can teach the kids to drink water by the way.  I know its no the first choice of many kids but drinking diet anything is not the way to go!

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Re: Are Artificial Sweeteners Really That Bad for You?
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2009, 07:31:46 AM »


You said there is no LOGICAL reason. I gave you A logical reason.
I do not disagree with you about the kids being out playing, and learning to eat/drink things that are better for them. I'm 100% with you on that.
I just merely pointed out one reason why your blanket statement wasn't 100% correct. ;)