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NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN stand up for FOX NEWS in defiance of Obama Administration, refused to interview Pay Czar unless Fox allowed to as well.


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The media must never, ever be controlled by the administration.  The media needs to be able to question government decisions and policies.  A few administration officials have arrogantly admitted to their masterful control over the media.  Mainstream media is not doing it's job.  Fox may be overboard, but some of it is because other news outlets are afraid to challenge this administration (though they did with Bush).

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I dont know if they're "concealing" them.  nobody is telling FOX not to say whatever they want.

They're preventing access to their place of business.  Nobody is GUARANTEED access.

I have to ask.. if you were a public official, and a local reporter's SOLE JOB was to bitch 24/7 about what you did... skipping your primetime press conferences, but talking about your church and family constantly...

Would there be a point where you just said "That guy can say whatever he wants. But I'm done giving him press passes to get more ammo to trash me continuously".

Besides, with less than 1% of Americans watching FOX at its daily peak... they are an entertainment channel for a fringe viewing group anyway.

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I dont know if they're "concealing" them.  nobody is telling FOX not to say whatever they want.

They're preventing access to their place of business.  Nobody is GUARANTEED access.

I have to ask.. if you were a public official, and a local reporter's SOLE JOB was to bitch 24/7 about what you did... skipping your primetime press conferences, but talking about your church and family constantly...

Would there be a point where you just said "That guy can say whatever he wants. But I'm done giving him press passes to get more ammo to trash me continuously".

Besides, with less than 1% of Americans watching FOX at its daily peak... they are an entertainment channel for a fringe viewing group anyway.

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Was Alex jones granted access to Bush's white house press conferences?

He has WAY more followers than FOX news, on his website.

But, because he was a disruptive nut whose only role was to bash Bush 24/7, he was not granted media passes.

Just as FOX' ONLY role is to bash the dem admin - at this point, there is no denying that.  I dont think anybody here calls them fair anymore.  They are a right-wing org to balance out left-wing orgs, sure.  But standing alone, they are the anti-Obama channel, let's be honest.

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33,

Everytime you post a pic instead of addressing my points, everybody here realizes you cannot compose a response with valid points.

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Was Alex jones granted access to Bush's white house press conferences?

He has WAY more followers than FOX news, on his website.

But, because he was a disruptive nut whose only role was to bash Bush 24/7, he was not granted media passes.

Just as FOX' ONLY role is to bash the dem admin - at this point, there is no denying that.  I dont think anybody here calls them fair anymore.  They are a right-wing org to balance out left-wing orgs, sure.  But standing alone, they are the anti-Obama channel, let's be honest.

Fine, than admit the rest are Pro-Obama outlets.  

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Video clip of the year!  I'm glad the other news networks recognize the danger of letting the Obama administration stoop to the maturity level of a child.

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Fine, than admit the rest are Pro-Obama outlets.  

of course they are.

Is anybody denying it at this point?

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of course they are.

Is anybody denying it at this point?

Straw, Lurker, KC, Blacken, Mons, YOU, gcb, et al.   

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Straw, Lurker, KC, Blacken, Mons, YOU, gcb, et al.   

I just said the left media supports obama, and the right media bashes obama.

You then accuse me of saying the opposite.

What are you smoking this AM?

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I just said the left media supports obama, and the right media bashes obama.

You then accuse me of saying the opposite.

What are you smoking this AM?

"I just said the left media supports obama"

Are MSNBC, ABC, NBC, NYT, WP, LAT, NYDN, et al LIBERAL OUTLETS?   

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Fine, than admit the rest are Pro-Obama outlets.  

I guess the message is that if CNN, MSNBC, et al. are smooching Obama's hind quarters, it's because they want to do so, not because they have to do so.

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of course they are.

Is anybody denying it at this point?
THE ADMINISTRATION IS....apparently to them the rest are "news outlets"  ::)

how fuking stupid are you?

you want to talk about 333 and his posting of pics not being able to debate, dude you get shown for the idiot you are 9 out of 10 times on here.


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Straw, Lurker, KC, Blacken, Mons, YOU, gcb, et al.   

Really?

Proof?

Or will I just a pic instead?

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"Besides, with less than 1% of Americans watching FOX at its daily peak... they are an entertainment channel for a fringe viewing group anyway"

Are you kidding 240?  Fox news has a huge audience and is #1 in cable ratings.  Thats a lot of people to piss off.


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I applaud the other news organizations for finally giving some pushback to the bullies in this administration, it's about time.  The media controls most people's perception of what is going on, it's essential that they ask the tough questions.

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I applaud the other news organizations for finally giving some pushback to the bullies in this administration, it's about time.  The media controls most people's perception of what is going on, it's essential that they ask the tough questions.
I do as well cudos to MSNBC, ABC and the others

FUCK OFF ADMINISTRATION this was a bitch move and this should get more air time and be made public the administration trying to control the message being given to the public...seems all to familiar

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I do as well cudos to MSNBC, ABC and the others

FUCK OFF ADMINISTRATION this was a bitch move and this should get more air time and be made public the administration trying to control the message being given to the public...seems all to familiar

Agree.

Chicago style politics would fit perfectly in Russia

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Commentators like Beck and Hannity are certainly very partisan.
However, there is a difference between the news shows and the commentator shows on Fox.  Fox news, particularly with Chris Wallace, is excellent, respectful and fairly non-partisan as most of their other regular news slots.  People forget about Geraldo, Shepard Smith, Neil Cavuto, Bret Baier, Greta (and the other news show).  That's most of Fox, which often leans but is less partisan.  People think the station is all about Beck and Hannity because that's all they hear, unless they watch.  Even O'Reily has been a little more balanced, while conservative, he is certainly not in the tank for republicans.

Fox news shows lean conservative but not much more than CNN and NBC lean left.  MSMBC is as bad as the Fox commentators.  Shit, at least someone is questioning this administration.  Much of the mainstream media is falling prey to the administration's mastery of information and media.  Hillary fell victim during the election to the same thing.  Wake up people.  
I feel Cheney did the same thing, mainipulated information and it's release...but the media called him on it.  Obama's administration is supposed to be "a new era of transparency", wow is that proven to be wrong. Old school Chicago politics and new school control of information and the media.  Very dangerous for the country.

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Agree.

Chicago style politics would fit perfectly in Russia

I think this WH knows it has a small window to get these insane policies through and is trying to clear the deck of all opposition.  

  

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I've been really disappointed with CNN.  That was by far the news station I watched most.  Now it's CNN and Fox equally.
CNN is definitely more left leaning since this administration took office and hardly asks tough questions and makes criticisms, really disappointing.  They also keep shoving race programs down our throat.  Inappropriate.

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This really is going to hurt this administration in the long run.  It will come up as a political talking point in the 2012 debate.  I think it will have an impact on the 2010 elections.  Virginia will be a good test as to what the temperament of the registered voter will be like.   2008 saw this state go blue for the first time in ages, and it's a state that doesn't make changes quickly.  If it goes red again in the governor's race, then we'll have some sort of indicator of how 2010 will go.  People are pissed at this administration.   The likes of NBC, CBS, ABC, and such jumping in to say that the current administration is wrong to block out Fox shows that even the back-pocketed media is rejecting some of what the White House is trying to pull off.

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"Besides, with less than 1% of Americans watching FOX at its daily peak... they are an entertainment channel for a fringe viewing group anyway"

Are you kidding 240?  Fox news has a huge audience and is #1 in cable ratings.  Thats a lot of people to piss off.

At its absolute peak, Beck gets 2.8 million viewers.

There are 310 million americans.

Less than 1% of americans are watching beck.

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Fox Wars
By Charles Krauthammer · Friday, October 23, 2009
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WASHINGTON -- Rahm Emanuel once sent a dead fish to a live pollster. Now he's put a horse's head in Roger Ailes' bed.

Not very subtle. And not very smart. Ailes doesn't scare easily.

The White House has declared war on Fox News. White House communications director Anita Dunn said that Fox is "opinion journalism masquerading as news." Patting rival networks on the head for their authenticity (read: docility), senior adviser David Axelrod declared Fox "not really a news station." And Chief of Staff Emanuel told (warned?) the other networks not to "be led (by) and following Fox."

Meaning? If Fox runs a story critical of the administration -- from exposing White House czar Van Jones as a loony 9/11 "truther" to exhaustively examining the mathematical chicanery and hidden loopholes in proposed health care legislation -- the other news organizations should think twice before following the lead.

The signal to corporations is equally clear: You might have dealings with a federal behemoth that not only disburses more than $3 trillion every year but is extending its reach ever deeper into private industry -- finance, autos, soon health care and energy. Think twice before you run an ad on Fox.

At first, there was little reaction from other media. Then on Thursday, the administration tried to make them complicit in an actual boycott of Fox. The Treasury Department made available Ken Feinberg, the executive pay czar, for interviews with the White House "pool" news organizations -- except Fox. The other networks admirably refused, saying they would not interview Feinberg unless Fox was permitted to as well. The administration backed down.

This was an important defeat because there's a principle at stake here. While government can and should debate and criticize opposition voices, the current White House goes beyond that. It wants to delegitimize any significant dissent. The objective is no secret. White House aides openly told Politico that they're engaged in a deliberate campaign to marginalize and ostracize recalcitrants, from Fox to health insurers to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

There's nothing illegal about such search-and-destroy tactics. Nor unconstitutional. But our politics are defined not just by limits of legality or constitutionality. We have norms, Madisonian norms.

Madison argued that the safety of a great republic, its defense against tyranny, requires the contest between factions or interests. His insight was to understand "the greater security afforded by a greater variety of parties." They would help guarantee liberty by checking and balancing and restraining each other -- and an otherwise imperious government.

Factions should compete, but also recognize the legitimacy of other factions and, indeed, their necessity for a vigorous self-regulating democracy. Seeking to deliberately undermine, delegitimize and destroy is not Madisonian. It is Nixonian.

But didn't Teddy Roosevelt try to destroy the trusts? Of course, but what he took down was monopoly power that was extinguishing smaller independent competing interests. Fox News is no monopoly. It is a singular minority in a sea of liberal media. ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, CNN, MSNBC vs. Fox. The lineup is so unbalanced as to be comical -- and that doesn't even include the other commanding heights of the culture that are firmly, flagrantly liberal: Hollywood, the foundations, the universities, the elite newspapers.

Fox and its viewers (numbering more than CNN's and MSNBC's combined) need no defense. Defend Fox compared to whom? To CNN -- which recently unleashed its fact-checkers on a "Saturday Night Live" skit mildly critical of President Obama, but did no checking of a grotesquely racist remark CNN falsely attributed to Rush Limbaugh?

Defend Fox from whom? Fox's flagship 6 o'clock evening news out of Washington (hosted by Bret Baier, formerly by Brit Hume) is, to my mind, the best hour of news on television. (Definitive evidence: My mother watches it even on the odd night when I'm not on.) Defend Fox from the likes of Anita Dunn? She's been attacked for extolling Mao's political philosophy in a speech at a high school graduation. But the critics miss the surpassing stupidity of her larger point: She was invoking Mao as support and authority for her impassioned plea for individuality and trusting one's own choices. Mao as champion of individuality? Mao, the greatest imposer of mass uniformity in modern history, creator of a slave society of a near-billion worker bees wearing Mao suits and waving the Little Red Book?

The White House communications director cannot be trusted to address high schoolers without uttering inanities. She and her cohorts are now to instruct the country on truth and objectivity?

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