Author Topic: Born Again: What Does It Mean? (Read 6710 times)

jtsunami · « **Reply #50 on:** October 24, 2009, 03:47:17 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on October 24, 2009, 08:47:27 AM

A human life couldn't bare are the sin ever committed.

But a man who was also God could, and did, bare all our sins

wow thx for doing something we never asked for and now for giving this so called gift that no one asked for we are all suppose to worhship his ass? Wow talk about a egomaniac

jtsunami · « **Reply #51 on:** October 24, 2009, 03:51:05 PM »

Quote from: Luv2Hurt on October 24, 2009, 06:15:14 AM

Very well put. Me; raised Catholic and having a hard time buying into Christianity today. The bible is an old book how could the men who have written it be any more than storytellers? I don't see how this book can hold so much credence, when there are other big religions who also have the "true book" of their own?

Also I don't see how "Jesus" or God as he is thought by Christians, dying on the cross could wipe out the sins of humanity for eternity? It's just one life, why does that give everyone free reign to do what they want and then repent, have faith in Jesus and all is forgiven? It makes no sense at all. A murder and rapist can say "I believe in Jesus and have faith in the lord" and all is OK with God? This is ludicrous and was dreamed up to give people who are guilt ridden hope they will be accepted into "heaven"

x2 a deep thinker

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #52 on:** October 24, 2009, 03:52:19 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on October 24, 2009, 03:41:29 PM

sin requires a blood sacrifice to cover it.

Jesus was that sacrifice. Jesus blood not only covered it, His blood removed the FACT of sin in the spirit of anyone that puts their faith in Him.

Doesn't make any sense sorry. Especially if Jesus = god.

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #53 on:** October 24, 2009, 03:52:33 PM »

Quote from: jehwit on October 23, 2009, 12:30:10 PM

brn again = doing tonnes of Yohimbi as a beta antagonist!

Royalty · « **Reply #54 on:** October 24, 2009, 04:26:21 PM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on October 24, 2009, 03:52:19 PM

Doesn't make any sense sorry. Especially if Jesus = god.

a man couldn't bare the punishment for every sin committed.....so God worked salvation Himself!

jtsunami · « **Reply #55 on:** October 24, 2009, 04:38:40 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on October 24, 2009, 04:26:21 PM

a man couldn't bare the punishment for every sin committed.....so God worked salvation Himself!

your so deep in this bullshit you don't even know it, you are making no logical sense. Did you graduate college?

Try not indoctrinating yourself with this crap for 6 months, you will see the world less wacky dude.

jt

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #56 on:** October 24, 2009, 04:40:59 PM »

my faith in God is innate and irrepressible

I always assumed that was true of everybody

big L dawg · « **Reply #57 on:** October 24, 2009, 04:45:41 PM »

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #58 on:** October 24, 2009, 05:29:16 PM »

means you can do whatever shit you want 24/7 365 as long as you believe jesus is the son of God u get into heaven. you dont forget it. hindu, buddist, baptist, muslim whatever....no jesus? no heaven. aint that some terrorist shit?

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #59 on:** October 24, 2009, 05:37:51 PM »

all religions are roads to God

some are just more direct and less hazardous than others

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #60 on:** October 24, 2009, 05:51:20 PM »

Why would any civilized culture believe in cunsuming the blood and body of their savior?

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #61 on:** October 24, 2009, 05:58:31 PM »

Quote from: JaggyShortBuff on October 24, 2009, 05:51:20 PM

Why would any civilized culture believe in cunsuming the blood and body of their savior?

cult

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #62 on:** October 24, 2009, 06:04:23 PM »

Quote from: bigdumbbell on October 24, 2009, 05:58:31 PM

cult

My point exactly. It would be amazing what the world would believe in if documented text of some savior were found before jesus.

Royalty · « **Reply #63 on:** October 24, 2009, 06:37:11 PM »

Quote from: jtsunami on October 24, 2009, 04:38:40 PM

your so deep in this bullshit you don't even know it, you are making no logical sense. Did you graduate college?

Try not indoctrinating yourself with this crap for 6 months, you will see the world less wacky dude.

jt

I graduated college. Took some fairly difficult classes too. Biology 1 and 2, Genetics, anatomy and physiology 1&2, chemistry 1&2, organic chemistry, microbiology....all with labs

and yes I believe Jesus stepped into this world (that he made) and died for you and me...and eveyone else

Royalty · « **Reply #64 on:** October 24, 2009, 06:42:45 PM »

Quote from: bigdumbbell on October 24, 2009, 05:29:16 PM

means you can do whatever shit you want 24/7 365 as long as you believe jesus is the son of God u get into heaven. you dont forget it. hindu, buddist, baptist, muslim whatever....no jesus? no heaven. aint that some terrorist shit?

a Christian does not enjoy sin in their spirit. A Christian that sins is usually a miserable person.

When a Christian goes to heaven.....they receive extra rewards...or lose rewards based on their obedience (but they are still saved and in heaven for ever)

garebear · « **Reply #65 on:** October 24, 2009, 06:57:05 PM »

Just because no one talks about Zeus anymore, doesn't mean he doesn't exist.

He's reading this board.

You're all going to Hell.

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #66 on:** October 24, 2009, 07:02:47 PM »

OMFG, is this debate still going on?? Jebus Christ on a crutch, people... your invisible sky-daddy is just like Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy. I seriously can't figure out why anyone with a working brain would believe this nonsense.

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #67 on:** October 24, 2009, 07:03:10 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on October 24, 2009, 06:42:45 PM

a Christian does not enjoy sin in their spirit. A Christian that sins is usually a miserable person.

When a Christian goes to heaven.....they receive extra rewards...or lose rewards based on their obedience (but they are still saved and in heaven for ever)

This sounds crazy!! Jesus was a sinner.

Why is your Christian religion based in fear? Why is so much of this all powerfull religion based here on earth when there is a whole universe out there? I think Christianity also expouses that there is only life on earth. A planet about as big as a grain of sand on all the beaches in this world compared to the size of the universe?

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #68 on:** October 24, 2009, 07:08:50 PM »

Hell was created to have a yang to the yin of going to heaven. The sad fact is the Bible has been rewritten so many times to the interest of those in power at the time. Damn, you guys need to look at the past of how "christian believes" have retarded the human race. I mean hell, the "church" wants to argue with anyone that proves the idea of evolution. When it is a known fact. I am going to start my own religion and dare the superior power to kill me dead with the appointed angel of death or whomever they decide that job fit for...

jtsunami · « **Reply #69 on:** October 24, 2009, 08:07:46 PM »

Quote from: Luv2Hurt on October 24, 2009, 07:03:10 PM

This sounds crazy!! Jesus was a sinner.

Why is your Christian religion based in fear? Why is so much of this all powerfull religion based here on earth when there is a whole universe out there? I think Christianity also expouses that there is only life on earth. A planet about as big as a grain of sand on all the beaches in this world compared to the size of the universe?

x2 without fear Christianity would die.

jt

Royalty · « **Reply #70 on:** October 24, 2009, 08:10:39 PM »

Quote from: jtsunami on October 24, 2009, 08:07:46 PM

x2 without fear Christianity would die.

jt

christianty is based on faith and love, not fear

wes mantooth · « **Reply #71 on:** October 24, 2009, 08:13:59 PM »

Quote from: garebear on October 24, 2009, 06:57:05 PM

Just because no one talks about Zeus anymore, doesn't mean he doesn't exist.

He's reading this board.

You're all going to Hell.

YEEEEEE HAAAAW!!!!!

if i believed in it, thats where id want to be anyway. way more fun than heaven

LOL

clued-up · « **Reply #72 on:** October 24, 2009, 08:27:54 PM »

Quote from: G o a t b o y on October 24, 2009, 07:02:47 PM

I seriously can't figure out why anyone with a working brain would believe this nonsense.

People are weak, scared and clueless. They need something to believe in.. because they don’t believe in themselves. Fools who need to follow.. desperate for some type of understanding.. so desperate they are willing to believe god is communicating through the written word of men.

Sheep. Religion is for the lost.

jtsunami · « **Reply #73 on:** October 24, 2009, 08:29:12 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on October 24, 2009, 08:10:39 PM

christianty is based on faith and love, not fear

sure keep telling yourself that, if they didn't traumatize people with telling them after they die they will burn eternally in hell for not being a Christian they would get no converts

wes mantooth · « **Reply #74 on:** October 24, 2009, 08:30:04 PM »

Quote from: Big Poppa J on October 24, 2009, 10:21:48 AM

we should all strive to be more Christ-like

yes...we need more jewish carpenters