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George W Bush and Czar's........
« on: October 24, 2009, 05:49:24 AM »
George W Bush’s Czars from January 2001 to January 2009:


Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O’Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
Birth control Czar (Erik Keroack)
Budget Czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
Science Czar (John Marburger)
Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
War Czar (Douglas Lute)

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EVER hear these NeoCon scuumbags mention the word "Czar" during George "The Grim Reaper" Bush's administration?

I think not.

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2009, 06:02:14 AM »
Why did he switch terrorism czars so much?
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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2009, 06:55:43 AM »
Why did he switch terrorism czars so much?

Are you saying George W Bush utilized Czars?  ;)

Dammit!!! Faux News and Rush lied to me again!!!!!

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2009, 10:25:51 AM »
Are you saying George W Bush utilized Czars?  ;)

Dammit!!! Faux News and Rush lied to me again!!!!!

How many were professed Marxists, Maoists, communists, etc? 

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2009, 11:28:59 AM »
How many were professed Marxists, Maoists, communists, etc? 
LOL EXACTLY mons youre an idiot if you dont see the difference in the two

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2009, 12:39:14 PM »
tony, 333, if you guys were ok with czars and only had a problem with marxists, why didn't you just say so from the start? So you don't have a problem with czars, just marxists, ok, got it ::)

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 12:42:44 PM »
tony, 333, if you guys were ok with czars and only had a problem with marxists, why didn't you just say so from the start? So you don't have a problem with czars, just marxists, ok, got it ::)

No, I think they are wrong and I dont agree with any of them.   

What I was saying is that the attention to this came about as a result of the radicals that Obama has placed into these positions. 


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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 01:11:31 PM »
No, I think they are wrong and I dont agree with any of them.   

What I was saying is that the attention to this came about as a result of the radicals that Obama has placed into these positions. 


So you were also bitching about it when Bush was doing it?  It wasn't on your list of things you said you turned on Bush for?  Also he was doing it in this first term, you didn't have a problem?  I know for sure most republicans and neocons didn't.  I remember bitching about it under Bush, where were you guys?  I just remember crickets from the right.

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 02:25:53 PM »
I think it's only natural that a president appoints clerks to handle day to day operations.

I can't believe this is even an issue?

I was no fan of GWB, but it would be crazy to think that he he should not have any director of eg AIDS policies.

He should sit and think it up all on his own? Super idea. ::)
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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 03:27:49 PM »
tony, 333, if you guys were ok with czars and only had a problem with marxists, why didn't you just say so from the start? So you don't have a problem with czars, just marxists, ok, got it ::)
I dont think ive condemned obama for having czars, its the ppl that he is appointing these positions that are shit and you know this hugo

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 03:39:11 PM »
I dont think ive condemned obama for having czars, its the ppl that he is appointing these positions that are shit and you know this hugo
you primarily supported bush, correct?  Wouldn't you say? ;)

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 04:02:03 PM »
How many were professed Marxists, Maoists, communists, etc? 


Nice spin 333333's  ;)


List of George Bush’s Czars from January 2001 to January 2009:


Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O’Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
Birth control czar (Erik Keroack)
Budget czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
Science Czar (John Marburger)
Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
War Czar (Douglas Lute)


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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2009, 04:17:27 PM »
you primarily supported bush, correct?  Wouldn't you say? ;)
LOL  :D

what do you mean by primarily? I supported some of the things bush did, didnt support some of the things he did as well


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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2009, 04:22:50 PM »
LOL  :D

what do you mean by primarily? I supported some of the things bush did, didnt support some of the things he did as well


that's what every normal voter can say.  give your approval rating of Bush on a scale of 1 to 100.

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2009, 12:41:58 AM »
that's what every normal voter can say.  give your approval rating of Bush on a scale of 1 to 100.
hind sight wise id say 40's during id say 50's

give your approval rating of obama on a scale or 1 to 100...

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2009, 04:24:39 AM »
To be clear, I'm not so sure it was bad that Bush had czars.

They are managers able to get thigns done without beaucratic tape/limitations.

We live in a complex country.  it's reasonable to think there are 30 areas, from agriculture to defense, that require a dedicated person to coordinate all efforts so that 310 million people can have smooth, safe lives.

You might say it would be irresponsible NOT to have a person to supervise and manage these major and important services.  bush and obama would agree, as evidenced by their own czars.

Did clinton have czars?  Mccaffrey comes to mind?   How about Bush1?  Are we complaining because obama has a group of managers/czars when other presidents have been doing it for decades?

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2009, 06:17:02 AM »
To be clear, I'm not so sure it was bad that Bush had czars.

They are managers able to get thigns done without beaucratic tape/limitations.

We live in a complex country.  it's reasonable to think there are 30 areas, from agriculture to defense, that require a dedicated person to coordinate all efforts so that 310 million people can have smooth, safe lives.

You might say it would be irresponsible NOT to have a person to supervise and manage these major and important services.  bush and obama would agree, as evidenced by their own czars.

Did clinton have czars?  Mccaffrey comes to mind?   How about Bush1?  Are we complaining because obama has a group of managers/czars when other presidents have been doing it for decades?


NeoCons are fuuucking hypocrites. Recently all drug addict Rush Limbaugh talks about are "Czars", as if we now live in Communist Russia. ::) Under George "the grim reaper" Bush, Limbaugh NEVER uttered the word "Czar." Now it's his favorite word.  ::)

NeoCon's are desperate and just grasping at straws.

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2009, 07:21:58 AM »

NeoCons are fuuucking hypocrites. Recently all drug addict Rush Limbaugh talks about are "Czars", as if we now live in Communist Russia. ::) Under George "the grim reaper" Bush, Limbaugh NEVER uttered the word "Czar." Now it's his favorite word.  ::)

NeoCon's are desperate and just grasping at straws.

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2009, 07:53:38 AM »
NeoCon's are desperate and just grasping at straws.

Why would conservatives need to grasp at straws?  Because there's nothing else going on?

You grasp at straws when there's nothing left, and right now, there's everything.  The trouble is, you don't discuss any issues at hand.  You're starting threads about other posters, terminology, and STILL talking about George Bush.

As stated above, all Presidents need to appoint people to focus on different agendas.  It's the people he appointed that we have seen brought into question here (don't know about Limbaugh - I don't listen to him), not the positions themselves.

You're a broken record with absolutely no substance.  If there was a Mons Venus option on Google translator, it would spit out all your posts as "FAUX NEWS!!!  BUSH SUCKED!!! 333 and HH..." with incorrect use of apostrophes.   
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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2009, 09:20:09 AM »
George W Bush’s Czars from January 2001 to January 2009:


Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O’Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
Birth control Czar (Erik Keroack)
Budget Czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
Science Czar (John Marburger)
Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
War Czar (Douglas Lute)

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EVER hear these NeoCon scuumbags mention the word "Czar" during George "The Grim Reaper" Bush's administration?

I think not.

My favorite is Bush's Domestic Policy Czar Karl Rove complaining on Fox that Obama's Czars can influence policy without having been elected.

He does have a point when you consider how much influence he himself had on public policy and what an absolute disaster it was for the country

I assume that was his point


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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2009, 11:58:22 AM »
My favorite is Bush's Domestic Policy Czar Karl Rove complaining on Fox that Obama's Czars can influence policy without having been elected.

He does have a point when you consider how much influence he himself had on public policy and what an absolute disaster it was for the country

I assume that was his point



Which ones are on record as being nazi's, communist, and/or maoists.

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2009, 12:34:58 PM »
To be clear, I'm not so sure it was bad that Bush had czars.

They are managers able to get thigns done without beaucratic tape/limitations.

We live in a complex country.  it's reasonable to think there are 30 areas, from agriculture to defense, that require a dedicated person to coordinate all efforts so that 310 million people can have smooth, safe lives.

You might say it would be irresponsible NOT to have a person to supervise and manage these major and important services.  bush and obama would agree, as evidenced by their own czars.

Did clinton have czars?  Mccaffrey comes to mind?   How about Bush1?  Are we complaining because obama has a group of managers/czars when other presidents have been doing it for decades?

I think the reason that people are wondering about czars in this administration is because there have been so many appointed in 8 months and the fact that some seem pretty wacky like for sure the guy that doesn't even believe a newborn baby is a human being.

I don't remember hearing much about czars in the last few admins but that could be because I just wasn't paying that much attention then.
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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2009, 02:03:25 PM »
I think the reason that people are wondering about czars in this administration is because there have been so many appointed in 8 months and the fact that some seem pretty wacky like for sure the guy that doesn't even believe a newborn baby is a human being.

I don't remember hearing much about czars in the last few admins but that could be because I just wasn't paying that much attention then.

Wacky - do you mean like Bush's Abstinence Czar or his Faith Based Czar?

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Re: George W Bush and Czar's........
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2009, 02:04:10 PM »
Which ones are on record as being nazi's, communist, and/or maoists.

beats me

didn't seem to matter if any of them were now did it?

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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2009, 02:21:10 PM »
Wacky - do you m
no i think stella is referring to the obama czars that are racist, mao loving, tax cheats, etc....