Author Topic: Constant Injuries lifting heavy with good form, AAS/Peptide assistance needed!  (Read 1346 times)

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This is probably the best place to ask for drug advice, so i figured id throw it in here.  Here is the scenario and issues.....

Iv been lifting for about 5 years now and compete in bodybuilding.  I was never strong to begin with, but have been getting pretty strong last few years.  Problem is, my body doesn't seem to like it.  The muscles can certainly move some weight, yet i ALWAYS seem to injure a tendon or possibly lig or connective tissue.  Nothing MAJOR has happened yet, but serious strains and swelling has happened that remained nagging for months and have also reoccurred on many instances. 

First time i hurt my chest was incline dumbells after doing dips.  Loud popping sound (like the sound you get from twisting bubble paper) in my right shoulder joint region.  It hurt near the pec delt tie-in but could be felt almost where it attaches to the bicep as well.  Now i have re-injured this many times, the last time being on the 4th rep of 365 on incline (felt like i was getting a smooth and easy 7-8).  Time before that was flat bench with just 225 (seems it never fully healed).  Time before that was again, on incline barbell.  Same spot every time, same pinching feeling (but i stop now when i feel it, so it has not been as bad as the first time i hurt it). 

Same thing with my knee now.  I squat pretty deep and move serious weight, but my knee swelled up big after the last time doing 5 reps with some decently heavy weight.  Again, very good form, no bouncing and no momentum.  Completely controlled. 

What i want to do now is figure out what i can take in order to insure my tendons and ligaments are strong enough to handle the workload.  I want to seriously bulk up, and am pretty sure thats not happening without strength gains.  What will i need to take to insure these injuries do not keep happening?  Would a moderate dose of GH help (say 4iu) or will i have to go higher?  Anavar i hear is good for collagen synthesis as well, but pretty pricey and not something you want to take for months. 

Also, would stretching help? 

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Stretching would help. Although it's kind of a pain in the ass, I hate stretching just because I'm a little impatient at times but the older I get the more I have to do.

GH, it can help with your tendon and ligament problems to a degree...it certainly won't hurt but I think some of your problems are due to some other reasons.

Your presses, in some ways you're right, strength and size do have some degree of correlation but it's not the end all to end all. Take BB bench press for instance. Let's say you can move 405 for 8 reps but you feel a lot of the movement in your pec/delt tie in area. Then lets say you can move 315 for 10 reps but feel every rep in your chest muscles and none at all in your pec/delt tie in area...obviously you need to stick with 315 and focus on stimulating your chest rather than letting other body parts take over.

I can relate to the frustration of presses and having this area of the body take over in a pressing movement...it's very frustrating. Many times I'll move a weight and it will feel too light, I'll go up in weight and I can move it fine but my shoulders start taking over...in short, it's much better to focus on the contraction with weight that only contracts the area it's supposed to...it's hard to do this because of ego but it's the only way you'll grow.

Dips, the only pec injury I've ever had, the only serious one was from doing dips...for that reason I don't do them any more. Once it healed and I started doing dips again, that injured area started aching again, so I stopped doing them. If one exercise causes injury and sever pain, simply replace it with another one that doesn't bother you.

Squats and knees, if you are moving heavy weight with squats it's going to make your knees hurt. You might be able to get away with it for a long time but at some point down the road everyone's knees start to hurt. Some people will argue against this all day long but I am sold on knee wraps for heavy squatting. If I squat heavy and use wraps my knees don't hurt...that's enough reason to use them IMO.

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Stretching would help. Although it's kind of a pain in the ass, I hate stretching just because I'm a little impatient at times but the older I get the more I have to do.

GH, it can help with your tendon and ligament problems to a degree...it certainly won't hurt but I think some of your problems are due to some other reasons.

Your presses, in some ways you're right, strength and size do have some degree of correlation but it's not the end all to end all. Take BB bench press for instance. Let's say you can move 405 for 8 reps but you feel a lot of the movement in your pec/delt tie in area. Then lets say you can move 315 for 10 reps but feel every rep in your chest muscles and none at all in your pec/delt tie in area...obviously you need to stick with 315 and focus on stimulating your chest rather than letting other body parts take over.

I can relate to the frustration of presses and having this area of the body take over in a pressing movement...it's very frustrating. Many times I'll move a weight and it will feel too light, I'll go up in weight and I can move it fine but my shoulders start taking over...in short, it's much better to focus on the contraction with weight that only contracts the area it's supposed to...it's hard to do this because of ego but it's the only way you'll grow.

Dips, the only pec injury I've ever had, the only serious one was from doing dips...for that reason I don't do them any more. Once it healed and I started doing dips again, that injured area started aching again, so I stopped doing them. If one exercise causes injury and sever pain, simply replace it with another one that doesn't bother you.

Squats and knees, if you are moving heavy weight with squats it's going to make your knees hurt. You might be able to get away with it for a long time but at some point down the road everyone's knees start to hurt. Some people will argue against this all day long but I am sold on knee wraps for heavy squatting. If I squat heavy and use wraps my knees don't hurt...that's enough reason to use them IMO.
Agree 100 percent on the knee wraps.  I used to think it was being a pussy to use wraps all the time, but now I always use them for anything over 315.

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This is probably the best place to ask for drug advice, so i figured id throw it in here.  Here is the scenario and issues.....

Iv been lifting for about 5 years now and compete in bodybuilding.  I was never strong to begin with, but have been getting pretty strong last few years.  Problem is, my body doesn't seem to like it.  The muscles can certainly move some weight, yet i ALWAYS seem to injure a tendon or possibly lig or connective tissue.  Nothing MAJOR has happened yet, but serious strains and swelling has happened that remained nagging for months and have also reoccurred on many instances. 

First time i hurt my chest was incline dumbells after doing dips.  Loud popping sound (like the sound you get from twisting bubble paper) in my right shoulder joint region.  It hurt near the pec delt tie-in but could be felt almost where it attaches to the bicep as well.  Now i have re-injured this many times, the last time being on the 4th rep of 365 on incline (felt like i was getting a smooth and easy 7-8).  Time before that was flat bench with just 225 (seems it never fully healed).  Time before that was again, on incline barbell.  Same spot every time, same pinching feeling (but i stop now when i feel it, so it has not been as bad as the first time i hurt it). 

Same thing with my knee now.  I squat pretty deep and move serious weight, but my knee swelled up big after the last time doing 5 reps with some decently heavy weight.  Again, very good form, no bouncing and no momentum.  Completely controlled. 

What i want to do now is figure out what i can take in order to insure my tendons and ligaments are strong enough to handle the workload.  I want to seriously bulk up, and am pretty sure thats not happening without strength gains.  What will i need to take to insure these injuries do not keep happening?  Would a moderate dose of GH help (say 4iu) or will i have to go higher?  Anavar i hear is good for collagen synthesis as well, but pretty pricey and not something you want to take for months. 

Also, would stretching help? 

Lifting heavy weights will destroy your body… don’t do it. Its totally unnecessary for a bodybuilder.  And some people simply can not tolerate heavy weights..

You do not need to go heavy to add mass.. You need to thoroughly work the muscle, run a hormone stack that works well for you.. and eat enough to grow. do that consistently, like clockwork for LONG periods of time. That’s it. Think years…

Stop going so heavy.. Your body is letting you know its not geared for heavy. A lot of people make MUCH better progress when they lighten the load and start really feeling the muscle come alive with each rep. You need to effectively train the target muscle… don’t be in a rush.. Small bumps in weight will add new mass. So many guys jump right to a heavy weight and totally pass up gains they could have made with lighter loads. increase the weights in small increments. slowly, over time. don’t be insecure.. lighten up.

You’ll end up lifting *heavy* for your body over time anyway.. but let your body dictate what heavy is.

How old are you? What are your stats? What steroids are you running.. do you know what you respond well to?