If I'm forced to take a H1N1 vaccine

[Hugo Chavez]

and I accidently jump when they go to stick me and the needle ends up in the eye of the person giving me the shot, will I be ok?


BS?
http://farmwars.info/?p=1314

[Skip8282]

Depends.  If a close buddy is behind you saying, "Yes officer, it was just a freakish accident.", then you'll be fine.

If Berzerk Fury is behind you....well....you might wanna start threading some soap.  Not that he's a snitch, but the opportunity to put you away for a long, long time could be just too tempting...

[Skip8282]

Wait.  I just saw your post on the sports board besmirching the Steelers and their greatness.  I'll be turning you in for murder. 

[Hugo Chavez]

Depends.  If a close buddy is behind you saying, "Yes officer, it was just a freakish accident.", then you'll be fine.

If Berzerk Fury is behind you....well....you might wanna start threading some soap.  Not that he's a snitch, but the opportunity to put you away for a long, long time could be just too tempting...

I'm not saying anything about BF anymore.  You kid with the guy and he comes at you like a serial killer on pcp, the guy is... nevermind...

[Hugo Chavez]

Wait.  I just saw your post on the sports board besmirching the Steelers and their greatness.  I'll be turning you in for murder. 

COCKGOBBLINS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hedgehog]

and I accidently jump when they go to stick me and the needle ends up in the eye of the person giving me the shot, will I be ok?


BS?
http://farmwars.info/?p=1314

In a few weeks, when people are getting the swine flu like crazy, nobody will have a problem getting the vaccine.

Instead all y'all do will be to complain how the big bad government held out on vaccine.

Conspiracy theorists unite!



The thing is, USA is in general overmedicated. Because doctors are afraid of losing business, and lawsuits.

Eg, if a 6-year old kid seeks medical care with a little fever, chances are that the doctor actually will prescribe some antibiotics, just to "safe it".

Even if the kid would have been ok with a little rest, and general care at home.

In the long run, it means resistance against the antibiotics builds up.

Ask any doctor if their own kids have been treated with antibiotics, and the answer is almost always no.


When I lived in the USA, I have never seen so many painkillers, different medicines, in my life.

On the flip side, instead of just being sceptic of medicines, some people (HUGO!!! ) at best thinks all medicines are totally unnecessary, or at worst, are a huge conspiracy by the government to drug the public and keep them like mindless drones.

[MRDUMPLING]

Fuck the vaccine...load yourself up on Vitamin D (2,000 i.u.s a day) and Vitamin C (as much as you feel you need)and you will be fine. 

[Bindare_Dundat]

In a few weeks, when people are getting the swine flu like crazy, nobody will have a problem getting the vaccine.



Conspiracy theorists unite!

 Yeah, half the nation will drop like flies unless we get our shots. Then we'll see riots and mayhem. Oh, the humanity. Government, please save us from the deadly swine flu! Hedge, I don't wanna die man!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

[Hugo Chavez]

In a few weeks, when people are getting the swine flu like crazy, nobody will have a problem getting the vaccine.

Instead all y'all do will be to complain how the big bad government held out on vaccine.

Conspiracy theorists unite!



The thing is, USA is in general overmedicated. Because doctors are afraid of losing business, and lawsuits.

Eg, if a 6-year old kid seeks medical care with a little fever, chances are that the doctor actually will prescribe some antibiotics, just to "safe it".

Even if the kid would have been ok with a little rest, and general care at home.

In the long run, it means resistance against the antibiotics builds up.

Ask any doctor if their own kids have been treated with antibiotics, and the answer is almost always no.


When I lived in the USA, I have never seen so many painkillers, different medicines, in my life.

On the flip side, instead of just being sceptic of medicines, some people (HUGO!!! ) at best thinks all medicines are totally unnecessary, or at worst, are a huge conspiracy by the government to drug the public and keep them like mindless drones.

Bla bla bla.... bla bla.... bla bla bla bla bla... STFU... bla

[Hedgehog]

Yeah, half the nation will drop like flies unless we get our shots. Then we'll see riots and mayhem. Oh, the humanity. Government, please save us from the deadly swine flu! Hedge, I don't wanna die man!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

No.

That's not what I'll think will happen.

What may happen is that areas where there hasn't been a good administration of the vaccine, a big number will get knocked out for a week or two.

And that will lead to an increased strain on the health care system, which I am not sure it can handle.

I am certain poor countries will have problem dealing with both their normal health care situation and the added work load of 30-40 percent of the work force seeking medical attention.


The swine flu isn't dangerous individually from what I understand. But it has tremendous effects to a whole economy, the whole world, as it has the potential of keeping the work force down for a few weeks, and also add cost to the health care.

[Bindare_Dundat]

No.

That's not what I'll think will happen.

What may happen is that areas where there hasn't been a good administration of the vaccine, a big number will get knocked out for a week or two.

And that will lead to an increased strain on the health care system, which I am not sure it can handle.

I am certain poor countries will have problem dealing with both their normal health care situation and the added work load of 30-40 percent of the work force seeking medical attention.


The swine flu isn't dangerous individually from what I understand. But it has tremendous effects to a whole economy, the whole world, as it has the potential of keeping the work force down for a few weeks, and also add cost to the health care.

Fearmonger.

[SAMSON123]

Fuck the vaccine...load yourself up on Vitamin D (2,000 i.u.s a day) and Vitamin C (as much as you feel you need)and you will be fine. 

I hope you realize Vitamin D can be toxic even deadly when abused like that and Vitamin C when taken in large amounts will produce diarrhea... nothing like a GB pharmacist

[Hedgehog]

I hope you realize Vitamin D can be toxic even deadly when abused like that and Vitamin C when taken in large amounts will produce diarrhea... nothing like a GB pharmacist

So that's why I have been having the Dirrster the last few days!

[LurkerNoMore]

I'm not saying anything about BF anymore.  You kid with the guy and he comes at you like a serial killer on pcp, the guy is... nevermind...

Isn't that how a furious beserzker is suppose to behave?

[Butterbean]

My workout partner's dog/house sitter had it.

As soon as she started feeling badly she went to the doc immediately to get meds.  She said she felt horrible and completely exhausted..had a fever/cough/etc.  She said she would rather have the swine flu than the regular flu because she didn't have the intestinal distress.  I think sometimes the H1N1 does include the intestional distress though.

I guess she laid on the couch and moaned and slept for several days and finally went out yesterday for the first time after about 1 1/2 weeks.  Oh, and she lost 6 pounds.

[Straw Man]

and I accidently jump when they go to stick me and the needle ends up in the eye of the person giving me the shot, will I be ok?


BS?
http://farmwars.info/?p=1314

how exactly would the WHO "take control" and "dissolve sovereign governments"

[shootfighter1]

Vitamin D is rarely toxic.  It is well tolerated even at doses of above 50,000units per week.  That is prescribed for deficient patients all the time.  2000ius/day is a very common dose for mild deficiency.  That doesn't mean everyone needs it, but people with deficiency often don't absorb that well and need higher doses.  The RDA is insufficient, that has been written about extensively in the last few years.

High doses of Vitamin C can give GI problems, that's correct but in general vitamin C is well tolerated.  500-1000mg/day is more than enough for most people.

[MRDUMPLING]

I hope you realize Vitamin D can be toxic even deadly when abused like that and Vitamin C when taken in large amounts will produce diarrhea... nothing like a GB pharmacist

Vitamin C is a water soluble vitamin, it would take astronomical amounts to be harmful.  I take upwards of 5 grams a day with no ill effects.  Vitamin C is damn near a miracle by itself with the things that it helps with.  

Vitamin D taking in two doses (1,000 i.u.s twice a day for your dumbass) will produce no ill effects.  The amounts that you would need to take to get that side effect would have to be in the teens of i.u.s consistently for days. While our bodies may produce Vitamin D from sun exposure it is not produced in quantaties that have any real positive effect on our health.

You need to read a little more.  The dosage of these two vitamins is not abuse.  If anything it is a very mild dose.

[MRDUMPLING]

Vitamin D is rarely toxic.  It is well tolerated even at doses of above 50,000units per week.  That is prescribed for deficient patients all the time.  2000ius/day is a very common dose for mild deficiency.  That doesn't mean everyone needs it, but people with deficiency often don't absorb that well and need higher doses.  The RDA is insufficient, that has been written about extensively in the last few years.

High doses of Vitamin C can give GI problems, that's correct but in general vitamin C is well tolerated.  500-1000mg/day is more than enough for most people.

Damn...I'm not even a doctor!  Thanks for the backup shoot.   

There you go Samson.

[240 is Back]

I guess she laid on the couch and moaned and slept for several days and finally went out yesterday for the first time after about 1 1/2 weeks.  Oh, and she lost 6 pounds.

yeah, it's the swine flu diet.  soooo many people round here have been on it. 

So.... once you have the flu, the shot wouldn't be of benefit?  Your body already has its defenses up/antibodies?

[Hedgehog]

Ellen DeGeneres is getting her prostrate massaged.

[Butterbean]

yeah, it's the swine flu diet.  soooo many people round here have been on it. 

So.... once you have the flu, the shot wouldn't be of benefit?  Your body already has its defenses up/antibodies?

I don't know..that is a good question!

[Hedgehog]

I don't know..that is a good question!

No, if you get it, stay at home unless you start to worsen. Try to have as little contact with others, if possible avoid getting into public spaces like stores.

[Butterbean]

No, if you get it, stay at home unless you start to worsen. Try to have as little contact with others, if possible avoid getting into public spaces like stores.

Yes, I think 240 was talking about after you are better..like after you heal up if you are exposed again later will you have some built up resistance to it.   Not sure though.

[240 is Back]

yeah, does anyone know?  Once you have had it... does the shot do you any good?