Author Topic: Quote of the Day: A Judge's Defense of Lyoto Machida at UFC 104  (Read 716 times)

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"First of all what you need to understand is that from where the judges are sitting, we get to see things that the fans at home may miss. Mauricio Rua was being aggressive but it wasn't effective aggressiveness which is what we as the judges look for when scoring a fight. The way I saw it, Lyoto was landing the more cleaner and damaging strikes throughout the fight - if you take a look at the judging criteria clean strikes are valued more-so than the quantity of strikes landed. Although Rua threw a lot of low kicks they were not as damaging as Lyotos diverse attack in the earlier rounds which is why I scored the first three rounds for Machida. You have to keep in mind we always the favour the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

"When both fighters are engaged in a striking match what I always look for is the fighter who is being judicious, picking his spots, being accurate and landing the cleaner strikes which ultimately is what Lyoto did more effectively than Rua. Lyoto made Shogun come after him, he determined where the fight took place which in my opinion constitutes as effective Octagon control. I recognize the fact that Rua did have a few takedown attempts during the course of the fight however Lyoto defended them all successfully which counts as effective grappling in his favour, where as ununsuccessful takedown attempts are not scored at all. Therefore going by that criteria, I believe Lyoto won the fight clearly. I'm just glad the other judges on the panel saw it the same way and I'm sure the fans who understand the technicalities of the sport agree with the decision too."

-- Cecil Peoples, who scored the first three rounds for Machida with rounds four and five going to Rua.

UPDATE: There's some question about the source of this quote being trustworthy. We'll try to confirm it. Stay tuned.


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Re: Quote of the Day: A Judge's Defense of Lyoto Machida at UFC 104
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 02:24:41 PM »
Lyoto himself said after the first round the leg kicks were taking thier toll, couple that with the cherry red marks on his body and the cuts to his lip and nose and I call that pretty "effective".  Stuff like that dosen't just appear out of nowhere, they appear when strikes are landing.  Leg kicks are to MMA, like body shots are to boxing.  They both put "money in the bank" and are effective as the fight wears on, especially on "runners", like Lyoto is accused of being.  If this really is Cecil saying this, he is failing horribly to give any real reason for his shitty scoring.


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Re: Quote of the Day: A Judge's Defense of Lyoto Machida at UFC 104
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 05:01:49 PM »
"First of all what you need to understand is that from where the judges are sitting, we get to see things that the fans at home may miss. Mauricio Rua was being aggressive but it wasn't effective aggressiveness which is what we as the judges look for when scoring a fight. The way I saw it, Lyoto was landing the more cleaner and damaging strikes throughout the fight - if you take a look at the judging criteria clean strikes are valued more-so than the quantity of strikes landed. Although Rua threw a lot of low kicks they were not as damaging as Lyotos diverse attack in the earlier rounds which is why I scored the first three rounds for Machida. You have to keep in mind we always the favour the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

"When both fighters are engaged in a striking match what I always look for is the fighter who is being judicious, picking his spots, being accurate and landing the cleaner strikes which ultimately is what Lyoto did more effectively than Rua. Lyoto made Shogun come after him, he determined where the fight took place which in my opinion constitutes as effective Octagon control. I recognize the fact that Rua did have a few takedown attempts during the course of the fight however Lyoto defended them all successfully which counts as effective grappling in his favour, where as ununsuccessful takedown attempts are not scored at all. Therefore going by that criteria, I believe Lyoto won the fight clearly. I'm just glad the other judges on the panel saw it the same way and I'm sure the fans who understand the technicalities of the sport agree with the decision too."

-- Cecil Peoples, who scored the first three rounds for Machida with rounds four and five going to Rua.

UPDATE: There's some question about the source of this quote being trustworthy. We'll try to confirm it. Stay tuned.




Something to consider is that Cecil Peoples comes from a karate background and that may have affected his judgment.  Even using the criteria he outlined, Rua still won the fight.   Machida was not trying to finish the fight as Rua was the aggressive for the entire fight.   Machida style is a counter punching style and he spent most of the fight looking for an opening he didn't find.

 Peoples shouldn't be judging professional fights.
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