List of guys who are "ON"......

[_bruce_]

Goudy can do it... large framed dudes for the win...

[Fatpanda]

Ursus is over 19stone in my opinion.Im over 18and a half stone,not fat,and im 5'10,hes what 6'3 and huge so he must be

i thought he wasn't 19 stone yet - i thought he was 20lbs off it from his posts - and that he was going to reach 19 stone by putting on 20lbs of muscle on his legs alone.

he won't get any bigger without gear imo unless he's willing to get fat.

[WingedLion]

I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??

Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?

What's the point of lying ?

Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat

[The Wizard of Truth]

I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??

Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?

What's the point of lying ?

Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat

X2

[big L dawg]

I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??

Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?

What's the point of lying ?

Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat

x3

[thelamefalsehood]

I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??

Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?

What's the point of lying ?

Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat

Exactly

[Ursus]

Ursus is over 19stone in my opinion.Im over 18and a half stone,not fat,and im 5'10,hes what 6'3 and huge so he must be

Okami I am 17st 4lbs atm and a lil over 6'3. I reckon I could easily add 20-30lbs of lean mass to my frame while at my current b/f levels - cheers for the props though.

btqw I am not talking about contest lean. i mean my surrent leanness.

[Ursus]

i thought he wasn't 19 stone yet - i thought he was 20lbs off it from his posts - and that he was going to reach 19 stone by putting on 20lbs of muscle on his legs alone.

he won't get any bigger without gear imo unless he's willing to get fat.

I am 23. i have 15 good years of lifting left. My legs are awful through lack of training and my diet is poor. Hell I could probaly be 18stone by January at a decent b/f level

Cheers _bruce_ also

[The Wizard of Truth]

Okami I am 17st 4lbs atm and a lil over 6'3. I reckon I could easily add 20-30lbs of lean mass to my frame while at my current b/f levels - cheers for the props though.

btqw I am not talking about contest lean. i mean my surrent leanness.

[#1 Klaus fan]

I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??

Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?

What's the point of lying ?

Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat

X I lost count.

[Fatpanda]

I am 23. i have 15 good years of lifting left. My legs are awful through lack of training and my diet is poor. Hell I could probaly be 18stone by January at a decent b/f level

Cheers _bruce_ also

i think you have good legs for a guy as tall as you.

1 cycle of test, maybe 2 would get you to 19 stone with less fat than you are carrying now - if you truely are a natural as you claim.

some pics of you i think you have definately used gear while others i believe you havn't.

either way you are a beast.

[Ursus]

If you actually care enough and you have teh time to trawl I have pics from 2006 right through to the present day where I have made slow gradual and pretty continuous progress

[Fatpanda]

If you actually care enough and you have teh time to trawl I have pics from 2006 right through to the present day where I have made slow gradual and pretty continuous progress

sure post them up 

am i correct in thinking it was the tried and trusted 5x5 workouts you used to attain your mass ? and only ever take 120g of protein a day due to your kidney ?

[Mars]

[Mr Nobody]

 

[WingedLion]

If you actually care enough and you have teh time to trawl I have pics from 2006 right through to the present day where I have made slow gradual and pretty continuous progress

dianabol is a helluva drug

[CalvinH]

Nobody ever accuses me of juicing

[Ursus]

sure post them up 

am i correct in thinking it was the tried and trusted 5x5 workouts you used to attain your mass ? and only ever take 120g of protein a day due to your kidney ?

Yes - sort of.

UI recently bumoped protein up in past 2 months Id say and have added 7lbs - I also cut downm training to 4x week and am getting better results.

[Fatpanda]

Yes - sort of.

UI recently bumoped protein up in past 2 months Id say and have added 7lbs - I also cut downm training to 4x week and am getting better results.

so on average how many grams of carbs/fats/protein do you eat a day? what was it like untill the recent change?

wern't your workouts were based on riptoe/madcow 5x5 ? 5sets of 5 reps? powerlifting rather than bodybuilding?

do you use pre/post workout nutrition ? how about creatine ?

[Per Se]

I'm listening to these guys and I'm like wtf ??

Do they relly want me to believe they are natural ?

What's the point of lying ?

Anyone who ever did a few years of lifting and did some cycles can tell when someone is on or not ad how big is possible nattie at a certain bodyfat

I think Goudy has a solid build, looks thick.
But c'mon do you really think someone can't be 242, naturally @ SIX FUCKING FOUR.
Give the guy a break.
....oh I forgot, your genetics are far "superior" to his, and you didn't do it w/o steroids - so NO ONE can.

*Conceited.

[PANDAEMONIUM]

Yes - sort of.

UI recently bumoped protein up in past 2 months Id say and have added 7lbs - I also cut downm training to 4x week and am getting better results.

7 lbs of pure muscle in the last two months?  that's what you're implying when you say you "bumoped" [sic] your protein up and are "getting better results."

[Ursus]

7 lbs of pure muscle in the last two months?  that's what you're implying when you say you "bumoped" [sic] your protein up and are "getting better results."

7lbs of weight. Of all that 2lbs was probaly muscle. rest was prob water glycogen etc and a bit muscle memory from when I stopped leg training. TBH I think i was overtrained for a long time.

[Palpatine Q]

I think Goudy has a solid build, looks thick.
But c'mon do you really think someone can't be 242, naturally @ SIX FUCKING FOUR.
Give the guy a break.
....oh I forgot, your genetics are far "superior" to his, and you didn't do it w/o steroids - so NO ONE can.

*Conceited.

I LOL'ed when Sev said he has better genetics than me.

Going by his logic...he got up to 217 on gear

I'm 257...even if I was on gear....I put on 40lbs more than he did at the same exact height. But he has the better genetics  

[Ursus]

so on average how many grams of carbs/fats/protein do you eat a day? what was it like untill the recent change?

wern't your workouts were based on riptoe/madcow 5x5 ? 5sets of 5 reps? powerlifting rather than bodybuilding?

do you use pre/post workout nutrition ? how about creatine ?

I dont count or restrict my carbs fat. Quite easily Id exceed 400-500g of carbs a day - however a lot of this was sugary carbs and crap

The last year or 2 it was focused a lot on high weight low reps (relatively) and a lot of sets. I have since changed it to more 8-12 rep sets - maybe as low as 5 reps on a few sets at the start of workout then its all reps.

pre worlout i have bananas and a protein shake. after i eat my lunch before i start work

[The Wizard of Truth]

I LOL'ed when Sev said he has better genetics than me.

Going by his logic...he got up to 217 on gear

I'm 257...even if I was on gear....I put on 40lbs more than he did at the same exact height. But he has the better genetics  

I dont think anyone takes anything he says to be anyway truthful