Arizona May Put State Prisons in Private Hands

[gcb]

Have you people got your head up your asses - privatised does NOT mean you won't pay for it - all it means is that a third party (not the government - state or federal) will be running the prison. Your government will still be paying this private company to incarcerate prisoners.

[Hugo Chavez]

Have you people got your head up your asses - privatised does NOT mean you won't pay for it - all it means is that a third party (not the government - state or federal) will be running the prison. Your government will still be paying this private company to incarcerate prisoners.

yea, and it could cost more! lol...

[MB_722]

ffwd to 1:15:45 - 1:18:45 .. about PIC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007

[gcb]

ffwd to 1:15:45 - 1:18:45 .. about PIC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007

That's insane - prisons should never be privatised.

[MB_722]

Sheriff Joe

 

Sources: FBI Investigating Joe Arpaio
http://www.kpho.com/news/21470567/detail.html


Report: FBI Probing Controversial Arizona Sheriff For "Investigating" Political Foes
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/report_fbi_probing_arpaio_for_targeting_political.php?ref=mp

FBI is investigating Arpaio CBS 5 News.

[MB_722]

private prison video

[Hugo Chavez]

private prison video

good video

[Soul Crusher]

Sources: FBI Investigating Joe Arpaio
http://www.kpho.com/news/21470567/detail.html


Report: FBI Probing Controversial Arizona Sheriff For "Investigating" Political Foes
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/report_fbi_probing_arpaio_for_targeting_political.php?ref=mp

FBI is investigating Arpaio CBS 5 News.

They are going after Sheriff Joe because he gets the job done and makes the Fed gov look like the incompetent morons they are. 

[The Showstoppa]

Have you people got your head up your asses - privatised does NOT mean you won't pay for it - all it means is that a third party (not the government - state or federal) will be running the prison. Your government will still be paying this private company to incarcerate prisoners.

Who on here said that?  some of you people have zero reading comprehension..... AZ is simply trying to keep the tax payer from paying a higher cost.  I'll state it again for you simple minded that didn't follow the first 5 times.....  

A private company makes a bid to run it, ok got that part?  Then, if they can run the prison for less than that, they make a profit....so their incentive would be to run the prison more efficiently......stay with me now.....you could easily take bids over time where the least expensive company to the taxpayer would win.....simple enough?

The key would be to make sure there isn't any of the "no bid" crap that goes on with gov't contractors.


As for the video....I'll state again for about the 3rd time.....the lawyer is talking about a "pay per prison" system when he jumps all over the place with his $30,0000-60,000 cost.....AZ isn't talking about doing that.  It's a lump sum bid.  So if anything the prison would stand to make more profit with LESS prisoners.  And with overcrowding in virtually every prison in America....needing to keep it full, won't be a problem.

[gcb]

Who on here said that?  some of you people have zero reading comprehension..... AZ is simply trying to keep the tax payer from paying a higher cost.  I'll state it again for you simple minded that didn't follow the first 5 times.....  

A private company makes a bid to run it, ok got that part?  Then, if they can run the prison for less than that, they make a profit....so their incentive would be to run the prison more efficiently......stay with me now.....you could easily take bids over time where the least expensive company to the taxpayer would win.....simple enough?

The key would be to make sure there isn't any of the "no bid" crap that goes on with gov't contractors.


As for the video....I'll state again for about the 3rd time.....the lawyer is talking about a "pay per prison" system when he jumps all over the place with his $30,0000-60,000 cost.....AZ isn't talking about doing that.  It's a lump sum bid.  So if anything the prison would stand to make more profit with LESS prisoners.  And with overcrowding in virtually every prison in America....needing to keep it full, won't be a problem.

I understood fine - potentially this could save money. But from some of the posts I read people are thinking yippee someone else can take the burden of the cost of running these prisons - that simply isn't so. Another thing I'd be suspicious of is how are they going to cut costs, how are they going to run it more efficiently, I mean prisoners still have rights. And if they can cut costs why can't a government run prison also cut costs? What are they going to do post less guards on longer hours? What gives?

[Soul Crusher]

I understood fine - potentially this could save money. But from some of the posts I read people are thinking yippee someone else can take the burden of the cost of running these prisons - that simply isn't so. Another thing I'd be suspicious of is how are they going to cut costs, how are they going to run it more efficiently, I mean prisoners still have rights. And if they can cut costs why can't a government run prison also cut costs? What are they going to do post less guards on longer hours? What gives?

One of the big issues is that that the privvate companies wont be on the hook for pensions, etc like the govt and taxpayer would be. 

[The Showstoppa]

I understood fine - potentially this could save money. But from some of the posts I read people are thinking yippee someone else can take the burden of the cost of running these prisons - that simply isn't so. Another thing I'd be suspicious of is how are they going to cut costs, how are they going to run it more efficiently, I mean prisoners still have rights. And if they can cut costs why can't a government run prison also cut costs? What are they going to do post less guards on longer hours? What gives?

I mentioned your concern in a post too. I would think they would need serious regulation to keep them from having substandard living conditions, etc....  but as 33 pointed out, private companies not having pensions, etc... could save money.  I am just for getting as many things out of the govt's hands and letting a TRUE "capitalist/free enterprise" system work.  hahah, man I sound like Ron Paul.....