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Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« on: October 31, 2009, 07:58:16 PM »
On Tuesday, Breckenridge, Colorado could become the latest American city to legalize recreational use of marijuana for adults.

The legalization measure, placed on the ballot after campaigners turned in a petition with almost three-times the number of signatures required, would also permit adults to posses bongs, pipes, bubblers and other so-called marijuana paraphernalia.

Allowing paraphernalia would be a first for U.S. voters, according to Marijuana Policy Project spokesman Bruce Mirken, who spoke with the Associated Press. "I don't think there's anywhere else in the country that has legalized paraphernalia," he said.

In Colorado, the current penalty for being caught with marijuana paraphernalia is $100.

According to Colorado's Summit Daily News, the Breckenridge petition needed 500 signatures, but over 1,400 were collected. If the measure passes, the town will remove all penalties for adults found in possession of up to one ounce.

http://rawstory.com/2009/10/breckenridge-colorado-voters-legalize-pot-paraphernalia/

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2009, 09:02:53 PM »
It's going on and on.  It won't be long until the whole country is at least medical use legal.  In 3 to 5 it might be 100% legal like cigarettes. 

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2009, 10:04:47 PM »
On Tuesday, Breckenridge, Colorado could become the latest American city to legalize recreational use of marijuana for adults.

The legalization measure, placed on the ballot after campaigners turned in a petition with almost three-times the number of signatures required, would also permit adults to posses bongs, pipes, bubblers and other so-called marijuana paraphernalia.

Allowing paraphernalia would be a first for U.S. voters, according to Marijuana Policy Project spokesman Bruce Mirken, who spoke with the Associated Press. "I don't think there's anywhere else in the country that has legalized paraphernalia," he said.

In Colorado, the current penalty for being caught with marijuana paraphernalia is $100.

According to Colorado's Summit Daily News, the Breckenridge petition needed 500 signatures, but over 1,400 were collected. If the measure passes, the town will remove all penalties for adults found in possession of up to one ounce.

http://rawstory.com/2009/10/breckenridge-colorado-voters-legalize-pot-paraphernalia/

where else is recreational use legal.

I thought it was only "medicinal use" that was legal

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 05:16:58 AM »
I don't think they can pass this.  Recreational pot use is against the federal law (so is medical marijuana use but the pres said they wouldn't prosecute if the state allowed it...which I agree with).

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2009, 05:48:19 AM »
I don't think they can pass this.  Recreational pot use is against the federal law (so is medical marijuana use but the pres said they wouldn't prosecute if the state allowed it...which I agree with).


As I understand it, they decriminalize it so there is no law on the books to charge people with a crime.  I suppose if a Fed caught you, they may prosecute, but I wouldn't think it likely, at least not for small amounts.

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 09:55:21 AM »
Will not happen.

The Federal Law always trumps state law. Medicinal use is one thing, recreational is another. 0% chance this passes.

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 10:00:41 AM »
Will not happen.

The Federal Law always trumps state law. Medicinal use is one thing, recreational is another. 0% chance this passes.

What's that got to do with whether or not it passes in their local election?  ???
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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2009, 10:08:27 AM »
Because even if it passes, it won't be legal.

If one locality decides to pass a law allowing incestual marriages and recreational heroin use in violation of federal law, the localities decision will not be legal.

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2009, 10:43:59 AM »
Because even if it passes, it won't be legal.

If one locality decides to pass a law allowing incestual marriages and recreational heroin use in violation of federal law, the localities decision will not be legal.

Yeah, I know.  I read where you said "0% chance this passes." and thought you were saying it wouldn't pass in their election because of federal laws.
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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2009, 10:44:55 AM »
Because even if it passes, it won't be legal.

If one locality decides to pass a law allowing incestual marriages and recreational heroin use in violation of federal law, the localities decision will not be legal.
does federal law force local communities to have the laws?  Not that I know of.  So if communities all over start removing local laws against it, it mean state or the feds have to police the local communities for recreational use?  Are they going to do that?  What it does mean is that if a cop in that town finds somone with a joint, they're not going to charge them with it.

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2009, 03:40:24 PM »
does federal law force local communities to have the laws?  Not that I know of.  So if communities all over start removing local laws against it, it mean state or the feds have to police the local communities for recreational use?  Are they going to do that?  What it does mean is that if a cop in that town finds somone with a joint, they're not going to charge them with it.

Yep, and the more localities to legalize it... the harder it will be for the feds to enforce...
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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2009, 03:47:41 PM »
still haven't heard the name of one other city that has legalized it for recreational use


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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2009, 03:51:44 PM »
The article is kind of screwy. 
On Tuesday, Breckenridge, Colorado could become the latest American city to legalize recreational use of marijuana for adults.

The legalization measure, placed on the ballot after campaigners turned in a petition with almost three-times the number of signatures required, would also permit adults to posses bongs, pipes, bubblers and other so-called marijuana paraphernalia.

Allowing paraphernalia would be a first for U.S. voters, according to Marijuana Policy Project spokesman Bruce Mirken, who spoke with the Associated Press. "I don't think there's anywhere else in the country that has legalized paraphernalia," he said.

In Colorado, the current penalty for being caught with marijuana paraphernalia is $100.

According to Colorado's Summit Daily News, the Breckenridge petition needed 500 signatures, but over 1,400 were collected. If the measure passes, the town will remove all penalties for adults found in possession of up to one ounce.

http://rawstory.com/2009/10/breckenridge-colorado-voters-legalize-pot-paraphernalia/

California has head shops ever where. 

Maybe the article is flawed. 

Also if there were legalized Marijuana some place in the USA it would have been a big deal. 

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2009, 03:55:26 PM »
still haven't heard the name of one other city that has legalized it for recreational use


Denver, Seattle, San Francisco and Alaska in your home.

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2009, 04:00:27 PM »
Denver, Seattle, San Francisco and Alaska in your home.

portland maine, the whole state of oregon, oakland cali.ect.

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2009, 04:28:02 PM »
portland maine, the whole state of oregon, oakland cali.ect.

enough to make a song :D

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2009, 05:51:58 PM »
No, they are legal for medical use.  NOT recreational use in those states.

You  must have a prescription from a doctor to purchase pot.

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2009, 06:10:25 PM »
No, they are legal for medical use.  NOT recreational use in those states.

You  must have a prescription from a doctor to purchase pot.

cmon..

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2009, 06:19:32 PM »
cmon..


I live in California.  I know what the laws regarding this mainly because i've been researching it a little bit lately.

The law is for medical purposes.  Anyone off the street can not go into a "Cannabis Club" or Medical marijuana dispensary with out a written perspiration that results in the patient getting a special cards that allows them into the clubs and dispensaries to purchase it for medical use.

That's the law.  The Law isn't that it can be done recreationally.

I cannot smoke it or possess with out a Cannabis card or i will be breaking the law and if a police officer caught me he'd give me a ticket or send me to jail depending on how much i was caught with. (> or < 28 grams and proximity to schools)

Marijuana is viewed by many as a elixir of sorts.  Something that treats or soothes many different ailments in insomnia and stress.  There's many stressed out people out there who i am sure "partake" in the treatment.   ;D

So this article is flawed.

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2009, 06:30:05 PM »
im busting balls.

I know its not legal anywhere, im sure hugo knew this aswell.

but its pretty much a given in those locations that pot laws are loosely enforced...

its also VERY easy to get one of those medi cards..

its a joke what these "patients" can get away with under the "law"

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2009, 06:38:51 PM »
im busting balls.

I know its not legal anywhere, im sure hugo knew this aswell.

but its pretty much a given in those locations that pot laws are loosely enforced...

its also VERY easy to get one of those medi cards..

its a joke what these "patients" can get away with under the "law"

Very easy.

$125 to visit a doctor where you tell him you have problems sleeping and then $30 for a card.  You can walk down venice beach and there are shops that run specials for "seeing" the doctor and joining their "Cannabis Club".  there are an estimated 500+ Clubs in LA alone.  In Arcadia, CA (far North)  it's estimated that 700 to 1000 or the 7000 homes in the city are grow houses.

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2009, 06:46:49 PM »
Very easy.

$125 to visit a doctor where you tell him you have problems sleeping and then $30 for a card.  You can walk down venice beach and there are shops that run specials for "seeing" the doctor and joining their "Cannabis Club".  there are an estimated 500+ Clubs in LA alone.  In Arcadia, CA (far North)  it's estimated that 700 to 1000 or the 7000 homes in the city are grow houses.

ok, now youre busted  :D

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2009, 06:53:03 PM »
No, they are legal for medical use.  NOT recreational use in those states.

You  must have a prescription from a doctor to purchase pot.
I don't know about all those places but I'm pretty sure you're wrong about Denver and I think Alaska.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-03-pot_x.htm

but yea I know you can still get busted from the state law being there.  But it doesn't originate from the city.

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Re: Breckenridge, Colorado may legalize pot next week
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2009, 06:58:37 PM »
I don't know about all those places but I'm pretty sure you're wrong about Denver and I think Alaska.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-03-pot_x.htm

They are in the "figuring it out stage"

Here's something more current:
http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_13680365

EDITORIAL
Legislature must address pot laws
State lawmakers need to create a regulatory structure for the production, quality and delivery of medical marijuana.

By The Denver Post
POSTED: 10/31/2009 01:00:00 AM MDT
UPDATED: 10/31/2009 06:17:09 AM MDT


Nature's Kiss co-owner Colin Gordon lights up in the Englewood dispensary's smoking room. He's licensed to use the drug for his back pain and plans to open a second medical-marijuana outlet. (Hyoung Chang, The Denver Post )

If there was any doubt that Colorado's medical marijuana law needs greater clarity and definition, a Colorado Court of Appeals ruling issued this week blew that equivocation away.

The court said a medical marijuana "caregiver" must be more than a grower, and also points out that under the current legal framework, growers have no legal way of providing medicinal pot to caregivers and patients.

What a mess.

State lawmakers need to create a regulatory structure that allows controlled marijuana production, regulates product quality and injects oversight into the process of designating those eligible to use medical marijuana and dispense it.

We also hope lawmakers will consider a fee structure that will recoup any government expenses incurred in creating a sensible framework.

Such a comprehensive effort, we think, will negate the need that some local governments are citing in coming up with their own regulations that are often too strict.

While some local rules are fine and even preferable in order to tailor operations to fit communities, a uniform and broad set of rules that fills in the blanks in how medical marijuana is produced, used and dispensed is preferable to a patchwork of potentially conflicting rules.

We hope the legislature takes on such an effort when it reconvenes in January and keeps in mind the intent of Amendment 20, which was passed by voters in 2000.

One of the broader problems, we think, is that Amendment 20 wasn't written to accommodate the explosion in medical marijuana use that has occurred, particularly in recent months. Frankly, we question whether the plethora of young people citing "severe pain" really are as anguished as they say, or if the real goal is to find a legal way to smoke pot.

While we favor marijuana legalization, Colorado voters did not cast ballots approving the legalization of marijuana. They voted to provide people with severe, unrelenting pain and illness an possible avenue of relief.

Legislators should not allow this vote of compassion to be twisted into something else. Some in the legislature have expressed hesitation in taking on the medical marijuana issue. We believe it is their duty to clarify and get a handle on the situation before it gets out of control.

Already, hundreds of Coloradans are applying for medical marijuana cards each day, and the number of dispensaries is growing rapidly.

People are concerned about the trade sprouting in their communities.

The legislature needs to give government the power to license, track and regulate dispensaries. There must be a provision for the legal production of medical marijuana.

There is no doubt that such regulation will spark a big, rancorous debate, but it's incumbent upon state legislators to take on this task and come up with sensible regulations that match voters' intent.