For all the juice monkeys. Do you think you can do it natural anymore?

[El Diablo Blanco]

How many of you law breaking steroid abusers think they can stop and continue working out natural?  Would your ego let you?

[The Showstoppa]

Maybe they have prescriptions.

[dov]

Gotta be brutal on the psyche.......inflate then deflate, inflate then deflate, inflate then deflate, and on and on. Not to mention what it does to their bodies

[El Diablo Blanco]

Maybe they have prescriptions.

Or just walked into CVS and asked for humalog and got it like Bob did.

[WillGrant]

Gotta be brutal on the psyche.......inflate then deflate, inflate then deflate, inflate then deflate, and on and on. Not to mention what it does to their bodies

Thats why you never come off 

Maybe when Im 60 like your self I'll switch over to a milder form of cycle that you used for MRGB , wini,clen t3 etc but until then why?

You train to look good but if I Was built like you id have to walk around in a thong all the time to show that I work out, or I could be fat to look big in clothes but then not want to be seen out of them..

 

[dov]

Thats why you never come off 

Maybe when Im 60 like your self I'll switch over to a milder form of cycle that you used for MRGB , wini,clen t3 etc but until then why?

You train to look good but if I Was built like you id have to walk around in a thong all the time to show that I work out, or I could be fat to look big in clothes but then not want to be seen out of them..

 

WTF is this rambling shit? I'm 34 yo and have never taken a short cut in my life. I'll take your accusations as a compliment.

[WillGrant]

WTF is this rambling shit? I'm 34 yo and have never taken a short cut in my life. I'll take your accusations as a compliment.

Lying meltdown , honestly dude you look 60 

[The Showstoppa]

Or just walked into CVS and asked for humalog and got it like Bob did.

Maybe the guy behind the counter thought it was a way of asking if he wanted oral sex.....as in "Hum a log for you?"   

[dov]

Lying meltdown , honestly dude you look 60 

It's called consistent training for 20 yrs = mature muscle......not some geared up then shrunken, geared up then shrunken delusionalite!

[WillGrant]

It's called consistent training for 20 yrs = mature muscle......not some geared up then shrunken, geared up then shrunken delusionalite!

So you started training at 40?  , thats not what the reference "mature muscle" means lol you just look old , honestly I thought you were in your mid 50s heading for 60

I had over 10 years clean training under my belt , sticking to compound lifts etc theres no gearing up shinking gearing up shrinking in my case pops 

[Steve Namat]

How many of you law breaking steroid abusers think they can stop and continue working out natural?  Would your ego let you?

Nothing wrong with natural training. To compete natural is another thing...

[Spike]

Nothing wrong with natural training. To compete natural is another thing...

what supplement you tryin to sell me.....send me a box, I;ll eat that sh.it up

[Noel Fuller]

Train natural? why?

[uberman09]

generation nothingness...

[thelamefalsehood]

Train natural? why?

To feal holier than thou, and to always be able to mutter under your breath,"I would be bigger, stronger and look like Coleman if I juiced to". See some of the posters above Noel.

[Devon97]

Nothing wrong with natural training. To compete natural is another thing...

What about when your competition days come to an end?

HRT?

Or


try to salvage any potential of a quality drug free physique?

[Steve Namat]

I'm still saying that if you don't have any competition goals then just your ego needs drugs your body doesn't...

[Devon97]

Train natural? why?

Because gear is a crutch for poor nutrition, training methods & recovery.

Besides, when you come off you will lose everything since you began juicing long before you ever reached your full potential.

Look at that poor tbombz kid- poor kid will put a gun to his head when he loses everything he gained + more.

[Rimbaud]

Doesn't matter to me either way - on or off. I like training period.

[thelamefalsehood]

Because gear is a crutch for poor nutrition, training methods & recovery.

Besides, when you come off you will lose everything since you began juicing long before you ever reached your full potential.

Look at that poor tbombz kid- poor kid will put a gun to his head when he loses everything he gained + more.

 
If you have a good base, you don't lose everything. Some worked out for around 12 years,  tapped out strength and size prior to their first cycle. And when those people come off they lose maybe 30% and have a net gain of 70%. AAS used smartly can be a great tool to use. Now the every day gym rat douchbag who only works out to look good for the beach and does some test and wiinni or tren, then yep, they do lose evrything. But if you have half a brain, you will not.

[Devon97]

 
If you have a good base, you don't lose everything. Some worked out for around 12 years,  tapped out strength and size prior to their first cycle. And when those people come off they lose maybe 30% and have a net gain of 70%. AAS used smartly can be a great tool to use. Now the every day gym rat douchbag who only works out to look good for the beach and does some test and wiinni or tren, then yep, they do lose evrything. But if you have half a brain, you will not.

Absolute bullshit.

You get off cycle and see what you have "kept" a/f ONE year off cycle and it won't be no 70% lol

[JaggyShortBuff]

 
If you have a good base, you don't lose everything. Some worked out for around 12 years,  tapped out strength and size prior to their first cycle. And when those people come off they lose maybe 30% and have a net gain of 70%. AAS used smartly can be a great tool to use. Now the every day gym rat douchbag who only works out to look good for the beach and does some test and wiinni or tren, then yep, they do lose evrything. But if you have half a brain, you will not.

Agreed, I got to 200lbs lean natural before I touched a cycle, once I cycled I do admit I went way up in body weight, but I kept a lot of my size after. I haven't cycled in 2 years and still stay at a solid 210lbs lean. A lot more mass than I had before I ever cycled.

[Emmortal]

Natural bodybuilding is like sex without the vagina.

[WillGrant]

Natural bodybuilding is like sex without the vagina.

If you have good mind muscle connection your hand can feel real though 

[WingedLion]