2001 mr o not as close as people think (jay v ron video)

[mesmorph78]

The size difference is very apparent the scorecard means nothng to me I use my own eyes to make my own judgements the if we go by the scorecard how many bbers have been screwed over time

[NarcissisticDeity]

The size difference is very apparent the scorecard means nothng to me I use my own eyes to make my own judgements the if we go by the scorecard how many bbers have been screwed over time

Yeah why would the scorecard matter  judges should judge contests on the internet who needs to be live & in person 

[mesmorph78]

Which is exactly why you don't know much about professional bodybuiding .

it wasn't close? Jay outright beat Ronnie in the entire prejudging and Ronnie only squeaked by him by vastly improving in the night show. 3 points separated Ronnie and Jay that's as close as it gets.   

you keep saying that bodybuilding
I think u even suggesting Dorian is a great bodybuilder yuck  with a great physique ludicrious but I don't tell you you don't know about bbing because that's your opinion I don't suggest ignorance so I would appreciate if u stop dong so

[YoungBlood]

The size difference is very apparent the scorecard means nothng to me I use my own eyes to make my own judgements the if we go by the scorecard how many bbers have been screwed over time

I only used the score card in order to show Wiggs that Ronnie came back during both night show rounds, that's all.
And like anything, if you know how the system works, you can easily manipulate it thus rendering it useless.

[Bobby]

Ron please allow links for me site on here again.    I promise I won't spam again.

your skating on thin ice after your last spam venture

[NarcissisticDeity]

you keep saying that bodybuilding
I think u even suggesting Dorian is a great bodybuilder yuck  with a great physique ludicrious but I don't tell you you don't know about bbing because that's your opinion I don't suggest ignorance so I would appreciate if u stop dong so

The old saying is you're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. facts is 2001 was an extremely close contest regardless of how you see it

And looking for a way out to Dorian? which has absolutely nothing to do with the 2001 Mr Olympia

and you can tell me I don't know about bodybuilding I could care less but your statements 9 times out of 10 contradict reality which proves you're ignorant , and being ignorant isn't a bad thing well it is when you're trying to pass it off as facts

Ronnie was very lucky in 2001 and that's a fact

[Haru]

yes but they had qualified nasser in 1996 for the same reason and didnt do it with jay!!.. why??.. i dont know!..

Because the wizard of oil wasn't smart enough to hire a lawyer.

Quick question, why is your head so big? Genetic?

[Bast175]

Didn't they both weigh 270lbs?  Jay is 2 inches shorter too.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Didn't they both weigh 270lbs?  Jay is 2 inches shorter too.

I think they were both 265 !

[Palpatine Q]

Epic being able to squat with the bar set at incline height for a normal-sized human

[mesmorph78]

The old saying is you're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. facts is 2001 was an extremely close contest regardless of how you see it

And looking for a way out to Dorian? which has absolutely nothing to do with the 2001 Mr Olympia

and you can tell me I don't know about bodybuilding I could care less but your statements 9 times out of 10 contradict reality which proves you're ignorant , and being ignorant isn't a bad thing well it is when you're trying to pass it off as facts

Ronnie was very lucky in 2001 and that's a fact

I used your devoted following of Dorian as an example
so I take it as I think Dorian looked repulsive with small arms and you think he's the greatest bber ever 
using your theory Its fair for me to call you ignorant

If I said jay should have won or doriaan is a great bber (oh brother) then I would be less ignorant listen bbing is based on opinion if you don't realise it then with respect perhaps it's you that is ignorant

[NarcissisticDeity]

I used your devoted following of Dorian as an example
so I take it as I think Dorian looked repulsive with small arms and you think he's the greatest bber ever  
using your theory Its fair for me to call you ignorant

If I said jay should have won or doriaan is a great bber (oh brother) then I would be less ignorant listen bbing is based on opinion if you don't realise it then with respect perhaps it's you that is ignorant

I used your devoted following of Dorian as an example
so I take it as I think Dorian looked repulsive with small arms and you think he's the greatest bber ever  
using your theory Its fair for me to call you ignorant

WRONG I never said he was the greatest bb ever and I have facts to back me up , you have what exactly? I know how bodybuilding is judged you don't , you base your opinion on preference , bias and ignorance , I don't

If I said jay should have won or doriaan is a great bber (oh brother) then I would be less ignorant listen bbing is based on opinion if you don't realise it then with respect perhaps it's you that is ignorant

bodybuilding is based on a set of criteria and on a group of many different men who all reach a unanimous decision based on that criteria and ultimately their opinion counts and yours don't

wow you said Dorian wasn't great , man you certainly negated the facts that contradict  that   Dorian was better than ALL your heros this is a fact , he's one of the greatest and most dominate bodybuilders to ever step on-stage and history has proven this regardless of what you think

[Immortal_Technique]

Yeah why would the scorecard matter  judges should judge contests on the internet who needs to be live & in person 

According to the judges Ronnie won.

HTH

[NarcissisticDeity]

According to the judges Ronnie won.

HTH

Please find me where I said otherwise 

I agree with Ronnie edging him out , however facts are facts and the fact is it was close and Ronnie was lucky.

[Immortal_Technique]

Not sure the judges decide unianimously do they? That suggests they all have the same guy in first, second etc. which is seldom true, no?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Not sure the judges decide unianimously do they? That suggests they all have the same guy in first, second etc. which is seldom true, no?

Yes and NO the high scores & lows are tossed out and the scores left determine who wins

[Immortal_Technique]

I suppose that's unanimous-ish?

[NarcissisticDeity]

I suppose that's unanimous-ish?

It is when all things are considered

[TRIX]

This has been done many times. Ronnie destroyed him

[Hulkster]

Which is exactly why you don't know much about professional bodybuiding .

it wasn't close? Jay outright beat Ronnie in the entire prejudging and Ronnie only squeaked by him by vastly improving in the night show. 3 points separated Ronnie and Jay that's as close as it gets.   

you make the mistake of assuming that the scoring was accurate.

the video clearly shows it wasn't.

ronnie wins easily. not barely like the score card would lead one to believe.

when are you going to stop looking at the numbers and start looking at the contests?

[Hulkster]

This has been done many times. Ronnie destroyed him

exactly.

despite the judges thinking otherwise with jay winning the prejudging..

what the scores say and what actually transpired onstage are two totally different things.

on paper - Ronnie loses the prejudging.

in real life, Ronnie owns jay during the prejudging.

typical IFBB BS to stir up some interest in the sport.

ronnie dominating, fans getting bored, so lets overscore jay and generate some buzz.

worked like a charm..

[nzmusclemonster]

Ronnies back double bi is ridiculous 

[The Ugly]

Jay should just stick with that first MM.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Epic being able to squat with the bar set at incline height for a normal-sized human

 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Epic being able to squat with the bar set at incline height for a normal-sized human

i dont think it's big for my body idiot, may be the angle of the pic., here is a normal one