During the 2009 Mr. O Press conference...

[Wiggs]

I was at the press conference and Victor calls out Jay and tells him, "you know I beat you in 07 Jay".  The crowd gets the "oooooo" thing going.  Jay responds, that Vic shouldn't complain because he's had his share of screwings....

Can someone please tell me when Jay has ever been screwed in a show?  If anything, he should be called "The Gift"

Cormer should have won the Arnold where Jay severly overdieted.
Vic should have won in 07.

When exactly was Jay screwed?

[The Wizard of Truth]

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[Blockhead]

 Jay is a buisnessman before he is a bodybuilder. There is no secret about that.


 Jay knows how to kiss the ass of the Manions, Weinbergers and the Thompson's of the world.


 Like Dorian and Ronnie... they had to GUEST-POSE and do things for the 3 mentioned above for FREE or without expecting to get paid.

 Manion has the NPC-Pittsburgh. "Oh, sure Jim... when is it? Okay. I'll be there."

 More than likely there is an unsilent agreement that Jay won't get paid for it. Dorian didn't. Ronnie didn't.


 You think a Shawn Ray would ever agree to something like that? "Oh, sure Steve... when is the Metropolitan? Okay... no problem, now let's talk price. I want 5k and all expenses paid. No negotiations. "


 How about a Kevin? Pffft. Kevin would just flake out of it completely.


 Jay plays the game.


 - Block!

[tendonitis]

I was at the press conference and Victor calls out Jay and tells him, "you know I beat you in 07 Jay".  The crowd gets the "oooooo" thing going.  Jay responds, that Vic shouldn't complain because he's had his share of screwings....

Can someone please tell me when Jay has ever been screwed in a show?  If anything, he should be called "The Gift"

Cormer should have won the Arnold where Jay severly overdieted.
Vic should have won in 07.

When exactly was Jay screwed?

I agree 100%.  Jay has received more gifts than any bodybuilder in history.
I was at his last Arnold win and Cormier was the clear winner, everyone sitting near me said the exact same thing. Cutler was missing an entire leg and bicep, they were simply gone. Cormier looked great and was the clear winner.
Cutler is the most overrated bodybulder ever. If he was black or European he wouldn't have half the wins he does now.

[Blockhead]

I agree 100%.  Jay has received more gifts than any bodybuilder in history.
I was at his last Arnold win and Cormier was the clear winner, everyone sitting near me said the exact same thing. Cutler was missing an entire leg and bicep, they were simply gone. Cormier looked great and was the clear winner.
Cutler is the most overrated bodybulder ever. If he was black or European he wouldn't have half the wins he does now.

I was there as well and I was astonished. The whole right side of Jay was very grossly noticably 20% smaller. He couldn't have hid it if he tried and believe me he did.


 During the commentary of the 2009 Olympia Pre-Judging Larry Pepe even said if Ronny Rockell was AMERICAN he would place much higher. More proof that professional bodybuilding competition has less to do with physiques than we care to realize.


 Jay wins because he has blonde hair, blue eyes, nice looking and has a rugged blue collar backround and All American name. He is a fan favorite and kisses more ass than anybody in the industry.



 - Block!

[BanksMcgee]

I agree 100%.  Jay has received more gifts than any bodybuilder in history.
I was at his last Arnold win and Cormier was the clear winner, everyone sitting near me said the exact same thing. Cutler was missing an entire leg and bicep, they were simply gone. Cormier looked great and was the clear winner.
Cutler is the most overrated bodybulder ever. If he was black or European he wouldn't have half the wins he does now.

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Damn still on the first page and all this racism.

[nzmusclemonster]

I was at the press conference and Victor calls out Jay and tells him, "you know I beat you in 07 Jay".  The crowd gets the "oooooo" thing going.  Jay responds, that Vic shouldn't complain because he's had his share of screwings....

Can someone please tell me when Jay has ever been screwed in a show?  If anything, he should be called "The Gift"

Cormer should have won the Arnold where Jay severly overdieted.
Vic should have won in 07.

When exactly was Jay screwed?

Olympia 2001.

[Wiggs]

I was there as well and I was astonished. The whole right side of Jay was very grossly noticably 20% smaller. He couldn't have hid it if he tried and believe me he did.


 During the commentary of the 2009 Olympia Pre-Judging Larry Pepe even said if Ronny Rockell was AMERICAN he would place much higher. More proof that professional bodybuilding competition has less to do with physiques than we care to realize.


 Jay wins because he has blonde hair, blue eyes, nice looking and has a rugged blue collar backround and All American name. He is a fan favorite and kisses more ass than anybody in the industry.



 - Block!

I'm not saying that every black guy should win the show....as they shoud not.  What I am saying is that it is good for business when a guy like Gunther (King of Olympia invites), Wolf, and Jay win shows it's good for business.  I totally understand it and it comes with territory.  Black guys like a Ronnie or Ed Nunn that have that country "aw shucks" attitude are also good.  Guys like Kai and Dex aren't good for business with both of these guys it's self inflicted from the numereous fan horror stories with Dex and Kai's past.  If Kai were to ever get past his past and bring a 100% ohysique he will be great because he has an awesome attitude and is a very friendly, well spoken and approachable guy.  I feel all Kai's placings have been fair.

Dan Solomon said that Zak Khan needs to come to the states to get his name out there...Why?  I thought it was judged just on physique?
Then there was the old, "you have to pay your dues" monicker I used to hear in the 90's whatever the fuck that means...

[Meso_z]

I was at the press conference and Victor calls out Jay and tells him, "you know I beat you in 07 Jay".  The crowd gets the "oooooo" thing going.  Jay responds, that Vic shouldn't complain because he's had his share of screwings....

Can someone please tell me when Jay has ever been screwed in a show?  If anything, he should be called "The Gift"

Cormer should have won the Arnold where Jay severly overdieted.
Vic should have won in 07.

When exactly was Jay screwed?

I think in 99 he got screwed, he looked very good.

[Hulkotron]

Can someone please tell me when Jay has ever been screwed in a show?  If anything, he should be called "The Gift"

When exactly was Jay screwed?

Some think he should have won a couple O's over Ronnie.  2001 is the big one and also one other later one, not sure which exactly (2005 maybe?).

[kiwiol]

I think in 99 he got screwed, he looked very good.

Yep. He could have placed higher in that contest.

But I don't think he got screwed any other time, including 2001, which Ronnie won convincingly. He would have won 2008's Mr Olympia if he was in the shape he was in Saturday night for the prejudging. But he looked bad on Friday night and Dex won it fair and square.

If anything, Jay did get a couple of gifts, the biggest being the 2007 Mr Olympia.

[MB]

I think Jay's response was that he's had his share of 2nd places, not screwings.

[Wiggs]

I think Jay's response was that he's had his share of 2nd places, not screwings.

Hi Jay

[Aaron Singerman]

I was at the press conference and Victor calls out Jay and tells him, "you know I beat you in 07 Jay".  The crowd gets the "oooooo" thing going.  Jay responds, that Vic shouldn't complain because he's had his share of screwings....

Can someone please tell me when Jay has ever been screwed in a show?  If anything, he should be called "The Gift"

Cormer should have won the Arnold where Jay severly overdieted.
Vic should have won in 07.

When exactly was Jay screwed?

I believe he was referring to all his second place finishes to Big Nasty.

[Wiggs]

I believe he was referring to all his second place finishes to Big Nasty.

So exactly which one was he screwed on?  You have a valid arguement for 2001 ONLY because Ronnie made up the points in the evening and the "unscored" posedown.  In reality Ronnie still owned Jay. 2003 and 2004?  Please Ronnie wins easily.  2005 No one ever complained.

Jay has never been screwed.