I went from a high of 220 lbs down to 185 right now. I have not trained regularly for about 15 months. Marriage, new house, new son, busy at work all led to training taking a back seat. I look like a different person from the neck down. The base is still there, and muscle memory will hopefully aid in some quick weight gain when I get back in the gym. I am a lifetime natty at 6'2" tall. Look at a pro. We have never seen pics of Tom Prince at his natural peak. Therefore, we have nothing to compare with his current pics. Clearly, he is not training at all. He went to the absolute max when he was on the sauce. So the deflation from the max drug induced body to a non-training natty is no surprise.