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Intimidated Americans Claim Not To Know Hasan's Motives
Townhall.com ^ | November 10, 2009 | Dennis Prager

Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:49:57 AM by Kaslin

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One reads and hears with increasing disbelief and anger that we don't know the motive or motives of Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army major who fired over 100 shots at his fellow American soldiers in order to murder and maim as many as possible. Hasan ended up allegedly murdering 13 people, but government and Army spokesmen and the mainstream media claim they just can't figure out why he did this. They are, however, certain that it was not an act of terrorism.

Sunday's New York Times "Week in Review" article about Nidal Hasan was titled "When Soldiers Snap." The gist of the article was that Maj. Hasan had snapped -- even though he had never been in combat. He snapped in advance. Just two sentences in the article were devoted to the possibility that his motives were in any way relatable to his Muslim faith.

As Chris Matthews put it, "it's unclear if religion was a factor in this shooting." To Matthews, not only was it unclear if Hasan's Islamic faith was "the" factor, it was unclear if it was even "a" factor.

Likewise, on NPR, Tom Gjelten offered the novel explanation that Hasan, who has never been in combat, may have suffered from "pre-traumatic stress disorder" because he anticipated having traumatic distress. "Was he an example," Gjelten seriously asked, "of these soldiers who are literally freaked out by what they are likely to face when they are deployed?"

And on Fox News, Geraldo Rivera, said, "I don't know what motivates him ... as far as I know ... he's a sociopath; he's a criminal. He could have had a toothache and gone off because of that."

The deaths and maiming at Fort Hood are heartbreaking and angering. But ultimately far more injurious to America than the act of evil that caused those deaths and injuries is the massive self-deception American society engages in out of fear of being called bigoted, racist or "Islamaphobic."
Any American who is not prepared to lie to himself has reason to believe that Hasan's religious views were prominent, if not exclusive, factors for why he slaughtered fellow American soldiers. The motives appear as clear as any could be.

Chuck Medley, Fort Hood's director of Emergency Services, told Reuters that Hasan yelled "Allahu Akbar" -- the Arabic incantation of "Allah is the greatest" yelled by Islamic terrorists before they slaughter people -- just before the shooting,

Dr. Val Finnell told The Associated Press that he and other classmates participating in a 2007-2008 master's program with Hasan at the Uniformed Services University had complained about his comments, including that the war on terror was "a war against Islam."

Another classmate told the AP that he complained to five officers and two civilian faculty members at the university. He also wrote to Pentagon officials that fear in the military of being seen as politically incorrect prevented an "intellectually honest discussion of Islamic ideology" in the ranks.

Other classmates who participated in a 2007-2008 master's program at a military college said they, too, had complained to superiors about Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's anti-American views, which included his giving a presentation that justified suicide bombing and telling classmates that Islamic law trumped the U.S. Constitution.

And ABC News now reports that Hasan had attempted to contact al-Qaida.

It is a given that the vast majority of American Muslims are loyal Americans. But that's not the only given.

It is equally a given that a certain percentage of Muslims in and outside of the military are Islamists who want Americans dead and America Muslim.

It does the majority of Muslims no favor to deny the existence of the minority. And Muslim Americans do themselves no favor by denying it. Unfortunately, Muslims are theoretically represented by groups like CAIR whose values are correctly seen by most Americans as suspect.

Americans are worried by the fact that there are Muslim Americans whose beliefs compel them to murder non-Muslim Americans. But what is even more worrisome is that American Muslim groups (and their supporters on the left) deny this.

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Pretty soon the left will be having get well parties for this terrorist. 

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I don't watch the news much the last 3 weeks.  Who on the left (or anywhere) is actually defending this POS? 

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I don't watch the news much the last 3 weeks.  Who on the left (or anywhere) is actually defending this POS? 

They are doing their usual, dont blame the killer, blame the system routine.  Its all over the place. 

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They are doing their usual, dont blame the killer, blame the system routine.  Its all over the place. 

i havent seen it////

that's pretty dsigusting.

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i havent seen it////

that's pretty dsigusting.

240:  read this, re-read this, and re-read this again and again, and this applies to EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THIS NATION RIGHT NOW.

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But ultimately far more injurious to America than the act of evil that caused those deaths and injuries is the massive self-deception American society engages in out of fear of being called bigoted, racist or "Islamaphobic."


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Our entire nation is engaged in self deception on so many levels right now, whether it be health care, the economy, etc. 

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"But ultimately far more injurious to America than the act of evil that caused those deaths and injuries is the massive self-deception American society engages in out of fear of being called bigoted, racist or "Islamaphobic."

Hahahhahaha not a single person I know prescribes to this lunacy.  They call a piece of shit a piece of shit, no matter what country he is from.

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"But ultimately far more injurious to America than the act of evil that caused those deaths and injuries is the massive self-deception American society engages in out of fear of being called bigoted, racist or "Islamaphobic."

Hahahhahaha not a single person I know prescribes to this lunacy.  They call a piece of shit a piece of shit, no matter what country he is from.

Really?Thats funny,then why are people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson still on tv giving interviews?Sharpton made up a rape case,was responsible for the death of people in New York with his "white interlopers" comment and said "greek homos".Jackson,used to spit in white peoples food,called NY hymietown and knocked up a whore while pretending to be a rev.Yeah,your right,no political correctness going on there.Minorities can do whatever they want and ZERO backlash.

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"But ultimately far more injurious to America than the act of evil that caused those deaths and injuries is the massive self-deception American society engages in out of fear of being called bigoted, racist or "Islamaphobic."

Hahahhahaha not a single person I know prescribes to this lunacy.  They call a piece of shit a piece of shit, no matter what country he is from.

240, correct me if I'm wrong, but your circle of people that you know (like mine) doesn't include anybody who would set policies in regards to this.....right?  And that is part of the problem.  As American's if it's not right in our faces, we tend to ignore it.  Gots to watch the game, or play some XBOX !!!  :P

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Who gives a fuck what Dennis Prager thinks.  He's just another religious wackjob who clearly hates his own country and would be happy living in a theocractic dictatorship.


Dennis Prager (born August 2, 1948) is an American syndicated radio talk show host, columnist, author, ethicist, and public speaker. He is noted for conservative political views frequently based in religious faith and for his critique of secularism in the 20th century.


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Who gives a fuck what Dennis Prager thinks.  He's just another religious wackjob who clearly hates his own country and would be happy living in a theocractic dictatorship.


Dennis Prager (born August 2, 1948) is an American syndicated radio talk show host, columnist, author, ethicist, and public speaker. He is noted for conservative political views frequently based in religious faith and for his critique of secularism in the 20th century.



Is he wrong in this article, yes or no? 

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Is he wrong in this article, yes or no? 

yes (you couldn't figure that out?)

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yes (you couldn't figure that out?)

No, because you attacked the messenger and added absolutely nothing of substance to the article itself. 

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No, because you attacked the messenger and added absolutely nothing of substance to the article itself. 

I read the article but I don't have time this morning to do a line by line critique and Prager is a kook anyway which seemed like the easier and faster point to make.

No one is denying that there is a tiny fraction of radical Muslims who have taken their religious beliefs to insane extremes (as have some Christians too) but only a f'ng moron (or religious kook) would write an article like this.

It would be much more prudent to withhold writing this kind of biased articles until we have all the facts and quite the fear mongering and insults.   

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I read the article but I don't have time this morning to do a line by line critique and Prager is a kook anyway which seemed like the easier and faster point to make.

No one is denying that there is a tiny fraction of radical Muslims who have taken their religious beliefs to insane extremes (as have some Christians too) but only a f'ng moron (or religious kook) would write an article like this.

It would be much more prudent to withhold writing this kind of biased articles until we have all the facts and quite the fear mongering and insults.   

Come on, dont you enjoy hurling insults back and forth at each other?  I certainly do.   ;D  ;D

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Really?Thats funny,then why are people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson still on tv giving interviews?Sharpton made up a rape case,was responsible for the death of people in New York with his "white interlopers" comment and said "greek homos".Jackson,used to spit in white peoples food,called NY hymietown and knocked up a whore while pretending to be a rev.Yeah,your right,no political correctness going on there.Minorities can do whatever they want and ZERO backlash.

*chuckle chuckle* Angry white man
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*chuckle chuckle* Angry white man

Samson - a lot of people are angry right now, not just whites. 

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*chuckle chuckle* Angry white man

Can you name ONE white politician or tv personality that would EVER get away with calling NY Hymietown or saying "we were here before those greek homos"?

By the way,if I caught that little fag Jesse Jackson spitting on my food Id beat the black off of him.

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Can you name ONE white politician or tv personality that would EVER get away with calling NY Hymietown or saying "we were here before those greek homos"?

By the way,if I caught that little fag Jesse Jackson spitting on my food Id beat the black off of him.

ROFL....I would PAY to see that!

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Come on, dont you enjoy hurling insults back and forth at each other?  I certainly do.   ;D  ;D

actually no I don't

I do like good discussion/debate but that's about it. I'd rather retain respect for the other person

Once I think the other person is a moron/wackjob then I immediately feel like it's a waste of time to keep talking