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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2009, 05:50:27 AM »
Just be yourself. Dont try to change who you are to get a woman. Dont try to be a bad boy. I hear guys brag how they started treating women like crap to get the women to respond more favorably towards them.

These guys dont seem to realize that they are allowing a woman to change the way they think and act. These guys are not in control....they allow women to change them. Dont be controlled by women

if you are a nice guy, treat women nicely. If they dont appreciate it, forget them because they have mental problems. Dont let their mental issues transfer to you

PS- its not your job to figure out why they have mental problems.

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2009, 05:51:24 AM »
stop being such a pussy

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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2009, 05:51:38 AM »
Just be yourself. Dont try to change who you are to get a woman. Dont try to be a bad boy. I hear guys brag how they started treat women like crap to get the women to respond more favorably towards them.

These guys dont seem to realize that they are allowing a woman to change the way they think and act. These guys are not in control....they allow women to change them

if you are a nice guy, treat women nicely. If they dont appreciate it, forget them because they have mental problems. Dont let their mental issues transfer to you

PS- its not your job to figure out why they have mental problems.
thats all good and well but when 6 months and then a year pass and you haven't got laid... then what? haha


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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2009, 05:52:13 AM »


Sad,  females don't realize cooter can be like rain...sometimes there is a drought, and sometimes there is a flood watch. So, a chick playin hard to get has to realize, if she is trying to impose a "drought", you can always go somewhere else and "make it rain".

And therein lies the truth...their loss not yours...(I'm listening to Sweet November by The Deele (the group Babyface was in) and it's raining.

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2009, 05:53:23 AM »
be yourself and if you die a virgin then  ;D

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2009, 05:54:17 AM »
thats all good and well but when 6 months and then a year pass and you haven't got laid... then what? haha



believe it or not there are women who dont want to be treated like crap

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2009, 05:56:36 AM »
stop being such a pussy


I just feel that a man should not allow a woman to get into his mind and change him for the worse

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2009, 06:01:16 AM »
I know a few women that chased the bad boy types when they were younger. They are now single moms and are struggling finacially. They are unhappy and frustrated now.

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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2009, 06:02:35 AM »
I know a few women that chased the bad boy types when they were younger. They are now single moms and are struggling finacially. They are unhappy and frustrated now.
thats where the quiet and mild mannered getbiggers come in  :-\ they are no fun in the younger years... too serious...

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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2009, 06:05:46 AM »
its concerning that there always seems to be threads like this on getbig... I mean you got a bunch of guys who must look "ok" and have confidence and must be in ok financial states... but still struggling with women etc. etc. you would think these guys would have the upper hand...

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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2009, 06:06:46 AM »
thats where the quiet and mild mannered getbiggers come in  :-\ they are no fun in the younger years... too serious...

who wants a frustrated single mom (with kids running wild) who complains about needing money??

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« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2009, 06:08:20 AM »
Maybe they shouldn't of just assumed that the man would pay for their lives.

yeah they have lots of regrets now

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« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2009, 06:10:18 AM »
Just be yourself. Dont try to change who you are to get a woman. Dont try to be a bad boy. I hear guys brag how they started treating women like crap to get the women to respond more favorably towards them.

These guys dont seem to realize that they are allowing a woman to change the way they think and act. These guys are not in control....they allow women to change them. Dont be controlled by women

if you are a nice guy, treat women nicely. If they dont appreciate it, forget them because they have mental problems. Dont let their mental issues transfer to you

PS- its not your job to figure out why they have mental problems.

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« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2009, 06:10:47 AM »
I don't think it's that much of a problem on getbig tbh.
well I have noticed there seems to be always be at least one thread of this nature attracting attention on the g&o

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« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2009, 06:23:55 AM »
Just be yourself. Dont try to change who you are to get a woman. Dont try to be a bad boy. I hear guys brag how they started treating women like crap to get the women to respond more favorably towards them.

These guys dont seem to realize that they are allowing a woman to change the way they think and act. These guys are not in control....they allow women to change them. Dont be controlled by women

if you are a nice guy, treat women nicely. If they dont appreciate it, forget them because they have mental problems. Dont let their mental issues transfer to you

PS- its not your job to figure out why they have mental problems.

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2009, 06:35:38 AM »
women are genetically prone to have a lower self estime/appreciation of themselves scientifics say in the last studies. Their familial, social environment, education and other factors also play a part, but it has been proven that self confidence is a trait of personnality that is  mainly genetically predetermined.

Recent studies also find that MORE AND MORE MEN are getting a lot more emotionnal and lack more and more confidence GENETICALLY over the last decades, that the number of young boys with a low self esteem is increasing.



Also, you want the ultimate tip to get girls and stable relationships: COMMUNICATION SKILLS. If you can communicate, you can learn about others, and about YOURSELF and improve theirs and your own quality of life. But as it has also been proven, paradoxally people communicate less and less in our modern occidentals societies even if we are in the so called era of communication.

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2009, 06:38:27 AM »

PS- its not your job to figure out why they have mental problems.

Most retarded comment of the day. It implies you shouldnt care about knowing the person you live with. How stupid is that?

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« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2009, 06:43:16 AM »
its concerning that there always seems to be threads like this on getbig... I mean you got a bunch of guys who must look "ok" and have confidence and must be in ok financial states... but still struggling with women etc. etc. you would think these guys would have the upper hand...
hahahaha i bet a bunch aka the majority of 'guys' on here couldnt bang a girl this very day if their life depended on it and im not talking about paying for sex either hahaha pathetic bunch of bitches on this site lol
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« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2009, 06:53:10 AM »
Most retarded comment of the day. It implies you shouldnt care about knowing the person you live with. How stupid is that?

The point is to tell the loopy dame to go fuck a duck before she becomes the person you live with. 

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2009, 07:04:15 AM »
Most retarded comment of the day. It implies you shouldnt care about knowing the person you live with. How stupid is that?

im not talking about not learning about /helping your wife. Totally different topic

this discussion is about girls that like bad boys


Im talking about guys who sit around a obsess over trying to figure out women with mental problems....or worse, men who think its their job to cure these women

its not your job to change people.

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« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2009, 07:08:16 AM »
i drove a girl home from work a few days while her car got fixed,i always open the door for a women to get in but she did what only a few women have done for me ,thats open my door from inside and push it open for me.my wife dosen't even do that  :-\.

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« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2009, 07:11:53 AM »
i drove a girl home from work a few days while her car got fixed,i always open the door for a women to get in but she did what only a few women have done for me ,thats open my door from inside and push it open for me.my wife dosen't even do that  :-\.

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2009, 07:15:55 AM »
Recovering From Being a “Nice” Guy

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You have listened to her complain about the jerk who treated her badly countless times only to watch her go out with him again and again. All of your selfless acts fall to the wayside only to hear about her mistreatment the following week.

You are left in pit of despair and confusing as the mantra “nice guy’s finish last” repeats in your head. “When will she wake up? When will she realize that there is a nice guy who will treat her the way she deserves to be treated sitting right here?”

She will never realize this because you aren’t in fact a nice guy. Appearances can be deceiving and the “nice guy” act is one of the biggest deceptions around.

On the surface nice guys appear to be selfless, kind, caring human beings but this is far from the truth. Beneath their generous acts and humble words lurks something darker. A dark side few nice guys care to admit because nice guys aren’t really that nice.

Here is a paraphrase from the book “No More Mr. Nice Guy”
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Nice Guys avoid conflict.

Nice Guys hold contempt for women.

Nice Guys have difficulty making their needs a priority.

Nice Guys lack conviction in their opinions or beliefs. Typically they will wait and see what the popular opinion is before taking a stand. If a rift happens in the group they will wait to see who is winning before taking a side.

Nice Guys lack loyalty. They develop a chameleon like type of behavior when interacting with others. If one member of a group doesn’t like another the nice guy will take on the belief of whoever they around. One day they will talk badly of one member and the next they will reverse their opinion.

Nice Guys are dishonest. They hide their mistakes and say what they think people want to hear. They will say pretty much anything to gain the approval of others.

Nice Guys are secretive. They are so driven to seek approval that they will hide anything they believe might upset anyone.

Nice Guys are manipulative. They have a hard time making their needs a priority and have difficulty asking for what they want clearly, so they feel powerless and result to manipulation.

Nice Guys are controlling in order to keep their world smooth.

Nice Guys give to get and expect some kind of reciprocation.

Nice Guys are passive-aggressive.

Nice Guys are full of rage, a rage which tends to erupt at some of the most unexpected and seemingly inappropriate times.

Nice Guys have difficulty setting boundaries, and instead feel like victims.

Nice Guys are attracted to people and situations that need fixing.

Nice Guys are terrible listeners because they are too busy trying to figure out how to defend themselves or fix the other person’s problem.

Nice Guys form relationships with partners who are “projects” or “diamonds in the rough.”

And Nice Guys tend to swing back and forth between the nice side and the dark side.

Reframing Being a “Nice” Guy

If you have found yourself in any of these qualities odds are that you are a “nice” guy. While nice guys do have some redeeming qualities overall they lack mature emotional balance.

Their overall theme in life is one of seeking approval. They want everyone to like them because on a fundamental level they don’t like themselves. They reach out for the approval of others because they aren’t content with their own.

They want to be liked by everyone but the truth is that NO MATTER what you do NOT EVERYONE will like you. You can’t please the entire crowd so it’s not worth the effort. There are some people that will despise you because of your desire to be liked. You are playing a game that you can never win.

Every time you try to be a nice guy at the cost of your integrity or your honesty you are hurting yourself. It may be a small little lie or agreeing with something that you don’t truly believe in but you are just making your situation worse.

Honesty, integrity and courage are at the core of confidence and high self esteem. Every time you sacrifice one of these principles you are chipping away at your self esteem. Do this long enough and there will be nothing left.

Recovering From Being “Nice” Guy

The first step is to become aware of your “nice” guy tendencies. Awareness is half the battle in conquering any issue. You can’t fix something that you don’t know is broken.

Be aware of every nice act that you preform and understand the real motivation behind it. Ask yourself “did I do this just to be nice or to be liked? Did I put the needs of others above my own just for their approval? Was my nice gesture genuine or was it done with the intention of getting something in return?”

On some level you understand what your motivation behind every nice act is. You know that you are doing it for approval. Your mind re-enforces these “nice” acts in two ways:

1. Rationalizing your behavior

2. Judging others for not doing what you do

The most common rationalization for your behavior that your mind will create is “I’m just trying to be nice.” Every lie, manipulation and bending over backwards for people will be rationalized by this thought.

A nice guy judges others for not being a nice as him. A martyr has a load of resentment towards people who don’t do the things that he does. They create an arrogance and draw part of their self esteem from having a better than you type of attitude.

If you look deeper into this judgment you will find jealousy. They are jealous of the people who have boundaries, aren’t self sacrificing for others and can get what they desire. They wish they could do the same but would run the risk of losing the validation they so desperately crave.

If you look at how much a nice guy judges a jerk you will see mass amounts of jealousy. He judges the jerk for the way he treats the girl, but in reality he wishes he could have her. He can’t be with her so he resorts to bitterness and taking a holier than thou route.

The second step is to drop this habit. This step can be very difficult because some of you have been practicing “nice” guy behaviors for most of your life. The external validation that you receive from others can become very addicting. Here are some ways you can put an end to this “nice” guy act:

-Start saying no to people. Write out a list of things that you do simply because you want to be liked and stop doing them. You should end up saying no to people far more than you say yes.

It’s not wrong to do for others but only if it’s done on your own terms. Help people out but only if you truly want to and without the expectation of getting something in return.

-Get your priorities in line and never break them. The needs of others should come fourth on your list of priorities below your health, integrity and your mission.

-Make honesty and integrity a priority above being liked, it will help you sleep better at night. Also become more open with your opinion and more upfront with people.

-Learn to draw your self esteem and approval from within. Being liked by others isn’t a bad thing but it becomes one when it’s your only means of feeling good about yourself.

-Develop a spine and start to stand up for yourself. It’s impossible to truly love yourself and draw self esteem from within if you are letting people walk all over you. Every time you let someone treat you badly your self esteem drops just a little bit more.

-Adopt the frame of “hey, I’m not for everyone.” Get used to the fact that whatever you do not everyone is going to like you. It’s ironic that once you let go of trying to get people to love you the more love you will draw into your life.

-”I trust the universe to supply my abundance and prosperity.” That nagging voice in the back of your head will be right when it tells you that being more authentic and honest will cause most of your “friends” to go bye bye. They will be upset over losing their doormat and nice guy friend who will do anything for them.Get over it and trust the universe to supply you with friends.

There will be a transition period were you will lose a good bit of your friends. By weathering the grace period you will allow better and more genuine friends to come into your life. Your life will be filled with more abundance than you can handle.

Try a 30 day challenge in order to change your “nice” guy behaviors. Take 30 days and completely change your behavior. Make a commitment for 30 days to standing up for yourself and not being so nice.

Tell as many people as possible so you are forced to keep this commitment. If you have a nice guy friend show him this article and make him your support buddy during this 30 day challenge.

Going full out for 30 days straight will help you change your behavior and beliefs on a deep level. At the end of the month it will be extremely difficult to go back to who you used to be. The new “not so nice guy” behaviors will be programed and ingrained into you.

You will be taking a large risk by dropping the “nice” guy act and it may feel safer to keep things just the way they are. So if you are satisfied with the fact that the only time a woman gets wet around you is when she is crying on your shoulder then I suggest that you continue on that path. But if you aren’t happy with your life or your success with women then I think it’s time for a change.

http://innergamereframe.com/recovering-from-being-a-nice-guy/

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2009, 07:49:11 AM »
i drove a girl home from work a few days while her car got fixed,i always open the door for a women to get in but she did what only a few women have done for me ,thats open my door from inside and push it open for me.my wife dosen't even do that  :-\.

I firmly believe in the "Bronx Tale Test:"

Sonny: Alright, listen to me. You pull up right where she lives, right? Before you get outta the car, you lock both doors. Then, get outta the car, you walk over to her. You bring her over to the car. Dig out the key, put it in the lock and open the door for her. Then you let her get in. Then you close the door. Then you walk around the back of the car and look through the rear window. If she doesn't reach over and lift up that button so that you can get in: dump her.
Calogero 'C' Anello: Just like that?
Sonny: Listen to me, kid. If she doesn't reach over and lift up that button so that you can get in, that means she's a selfish broad and all you're seeing is the tip of the iceberg. You dump her and you dump her fast.


However, with the modern day cars like our BMW's NJ, that's not the best/easiest test to do since we have automatic locks!

I also think the trick to many women is to come off as an asshole through your first few encounters, and then before you overdo that, you turn into the nice guy and keep being entertaining. </nutshell>

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Re: Chivalry: The Difference Between Being A Gentleman And A Sucker
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2009, 07:53:09 AM »
I firmly believe in the "Bronx Tale Test:"

Sonny: Alright, listen to me. You pull up right where she lives, right? Before you get outta the car, you lock both doors. Then, get outta the car, you walk over to her. You bring her over to the car. Dig out the key, put it in the lock and open the door for her. Then you let her get in. Then you close the door. Then you walk around the back of the car and look through the rear window. If she doesn't reach over and lift up that button so that you can get in: dump her.
Calogero 'C' Anello: Just like that?
Sonny: Listen to me, kid. If she doesn't reach over and lift up that button so that you can get in, that means she's a selfish broad and all you're seeing is the tip of the iceberg. You dump her and you dump her fast.



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