The difference between science and religion!

[ToxicAvenger]

Science

Step 1 --->  gather evidence
Step 2 ----> Draw Conclusion

Religion

Step 1 -----> draw conclusion
Step 2-------> gather supporting evidence


 

[theonlyone]

"Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish."

"All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree."

 The words of your hero Albert Einstein you're clown do you hear me? When will you stop overANALysing this thing?

 You still didn't reply whether you govern in the way or not...
 

[ToxicAvenger]

"Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish."

"All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree."

 The words of your hero Albert Einstein you're clown do you hear me? When will you stop overANALysing this thing?

i never said Einstein is my hero...

You still didn't reply whether you govern in the way or not...
 

huh 

[theonlyone]

i nevered sad Einstein iz my hero...

huhed

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=286233.0

[tonymctones]

Science

Step 1 --->  gather evidence
Step 2 ----> Draw Conclusion

Religion

Step 1 -----> draw conclusion
Step 2-------> gather supporting evidence


 

this coming from someone who gets his morals from religion but despises it and wishes it cleansed from the earth

[ToxicAvenger]

this coming from someone who gets his morals from religion but despises it and wishes it cleansed from the earth

i get my morals from religion     says who?  i'm smart enough to know right from wrong without having to consult a book written by an imaginairy person

[loco]

i get my morals from religion     says who?  i'm smart enough to know right from wrong without having to consult a book written by an imaginairy person

Toxic,
What about the morality that you parents taught you growing up?  Aren't your parents religious?  Do you do the opposite of the morals that they taught you?

[OzmO]

Science

Step 1 --->  gather evidence
Step 2 ----> Draw Conclusion

Religion

Step 1 -----> draw conclusion
Step 2-------> gather supporting evidence


 

Science:  The problem here is science is sometimes wrong because it draws conclusions on incomplete evidence.

Religion:  Is not Science, but instead faith.

[ToxicAvenger]

Toxic,
What about the morality that you parents taught you growing up?  Aren't your parents religious?  Do you do the opposite of the morals that they taught you?

whats with the flip mang!  i thought , you thunk all muslims are evil...hense they couldn't  possibly have taught me any good!

in anycase...yeah they are good people...but they r also muslims...i'm an atheist..for the most part i find no roux in their morality although i have enough of a brain not to follow their teaching blindly and to venture my own life when needed (hence atheism)

[ToxicAvenger]

Science:  The problem here is science is sometimes wrong because it draws conclusions on incomplete evidence.

Religion:  Is not Science, but instead faith.

see....first coherent good statement

i cant dispute either of the above..

[Butterbean]

Religion

Step 1 -----> draw conclusion
Step 2-------> gather supporting evidence


 

(taking into account you are probably not talking about "organized religion"  but belief/faith and not just some denomination etc)

Many people observe nature and believe it's too complicated to have just "happened" w/o a designer.  

People aren't born w/a drawn conclusion.


Also, to me, "draw conclusion" implies some type of investigation, deliberation or deduction prior to arriving at a conclusion in the first place.

[tonymctones]

i get my morals from religion     says who?  i'm smart enough to know right from wrong without having to consult a book written by an imaginairy person

you said your got your sense of right and wrong from your parent who are muslim...

if not where did you acquire your sense of right and wrong?

[ToxicAvenger]

Also, to me, "draw conclusion" implies some type of investigation, deliberation or deduction prior to arriving at a conclusion in the first place.

and how to religious people conduct this investigation

[ToxicAvenger]

you said your got your sense of right and wrong from your parent who are muslim...

if not where did you acquire your sense of right and wrong?

it ws innate...i consider myself evolved enough

[tonymctones]

it ws innate...i consider myself evolved enough

LOL way to side step the question 

if its simply b/c your evolved, your morals stem from survival so murder is ok then if its for your survival?

[ToxicAvenger]

LOL way to side step the question 

if its simply b/c your evolved, your morals stem from survival so murder is ok then if its for your survival?

Murder is NOt condusive for survival

but if someone trying to kill me...well i'd kill em first..

kapees?

[tonymctones]

Murder is NOt condusive for survival

but if someone trying to kill me...well i'd kill em first..

kapees?

murder can be conducive to survival...

ok again way to side step the question

basically anything that helps you survive is morally right in your book?

stealing, murder, rape etc...as long as it helps you and your bloodline survive its morally right in your book?

[ToxicAvenger]

stealing, murder, rape etc...as long as it helps you and your bloodline survive its morally right in your book?

i dont have a book....

and you r an idiot

[tonymctones]

i dont have a book....

and you r an idiot

again way to side step the question 

face it bro that which you despise actually gives you the basis for your morality and if not Ill ask again where do you get your sense of morality?

morality isnt innate protein, survival is but survival and your idea or morality dont seem to go hand in hand sooo

try again...

[ToxicAvenger]

face it bro that which you despise actually gives you the basis for your morality and if not Ill ask again where do you get your sense of morality?

i get my sense of morality from my ability to grasp simple truths about the society we live in. Its sets of social mores coupled that with my genetic predisposition towards logical thought...

happy?

you get yours from a friggin book  

[tonymctones]

i get my sense of morality from my ability to grasp simple truths about the society we live in. Its sets of social mores coupled that with my genetic predisposition towards logical thought...

happy?

you get yours from a friggin book  

LOL first off are you so blind with hatred that you dont understand that the "friggin book" you despise is based on the same thing that you just put forth?

while it may come from a book try to look further, passed your idiotic hatred and see it through an unbiased lens.

Secondly you state the "society we live in" is this to mean that your sense of morals is not universal but simply right or wrong within the context of our society?

explain how your morals are any different than the morals derived from the bible?

[ToxicAvenger]

explain how your morals are any different than the morals derived from the bible?

i never said they were different...i merely stated that they are differently derived...

better question yet...WHY do you care so much if i state that my morals are not plagarized from a book but instead a funcion of my own personality which in turn is a function of my genetic disposition?

[wavelength]

No the difference is just what kind of conclusions you are able to draw.

[tonymctones]

i never said they were different...i merely stated that they are differently derived...

better question yet...WHY do you care so much if i state that my morals are not plagarized from a book but instead a funcion of my own personality which in turn is a function of my genetic disposition?

your hatred blinds you or perhaps your just not as smart as I give you credit for...

by your reasoning murder could be morally right, theft and rape as well could be morally right...

how do you not understand this?

Let me break it down for you...

If as you state that your morals come from your own personality and a function of you genetic disposition. Then a person who is predisposed to be violent could and with a personality that allows for violence to occur would be acting morally right...

[ToxicAvenger]

If as you state that your morals come from your own personality and a function of you genetic disposition. Then a person who is predisposed to be violent could and with a personality that allows for violence to occur would be acting morally right...

nature nurture debate...you'll never win