does musclegallery qualify as g4p? (no homo)

[mogulgangi]

just wanna know if i should hate all those that have been in that website....which is 60% of the ifbb...no disrespect

[Voice_Of_Reason]

It's only gay if you want it to be.

[mogulgangi]

It's only gay if you want it to be.

i mean, if im sitting at the dinner table with the family, can i bring it up ?


i wanna talk of how great of a carrer the ifbb can be ...the great ventures you can expect...

[calfzilla]

If you are embarassed by it and are ashamed to share it with those you love...it is g4p. 

[kiwiol]

Never been to that site, but based on some of the pics posted here, I'd say

Musclegallery = gayer than paying for porn

[bigdumbbell]

there's no such thing as g4p; either you are or you ain't

[Victor VonDoom]

just wanna know if i should hate all those that have been in that website....which is 60% of the ifbb...no disrespect

Is donning a thong and posing to an audience of men, who pay for the privilege of watching, gay?  Many people would say yes.  You might as well hate all of the IFBB.

Bah!  Doom disapproves.

[WhiteCastle]

Just preface the story at the dinner table with "No Homo" and you should be ok.

Have you listened to this RX Muscle Off Topic show?
http://www.rxmuscle.com/radio/OT-07302009.mp3
PJ Braun tells a hilarious story (about 30 minutes) about how he and Evan Centopani were basically flown into a guest posing gig that involved a he/she, a large group of gay CEO supplement company owners, and two young gay guys also flown in to be boy toys for a weekend.

[mogulgangi]

Just preface the story at the dinner table with "No Homo" and you should be ok.

Have you listened to this RX Muscle Off Topic show?
http://www.rxmuscle.com/radio/OT-07302009.mp3
PJ Braun tells a hilarious story (about 30 minutes) about how he and Evan Centopani were basically flown into a guest posing gig that involved a he/she, a large group of gay CEO supplement company owners, and two young gay guys also flown in to be boy toys for a weekend.

evan is cool


but the other dude, there is no way he denied an "ability" to pay for all his gear for the rest of the year......shit, i know his high paying corporate job does well, but shit, who wants to pay hgh bills with their own money

[NarcissisticDeity]

It's only gay if you want it to be.

exactly

[Mr Nobody]

Never been to that site, but based on some of the pics posted here, I'd say

Musclegallery = gayer than paying for porn

Waiting for Bay's comments on this.

[BayGBM]

Tim and I disagree, but I have said long ago that I consider MG G4P.

[Tre]

there's no such thing as g4p; either you are or you ain't

Mmm, not true. 

99% of people have a price.  Just sayin'...

[BayGBM]

Mmm, not true. 

99% of people have a price.  Just sayin'...

Word.

[bigdumbbell]

Word.

X 2  oh brother 

[johnnynoname]

Word.

x2

[Topskin69]

Tim and I disagree, but I have said long ago that I consider MG G4P.

Here lies an interesting philosophical question. Where does the line exist? Personally I probably wouldn't consider Muscle Gallery G4P, though I would consider j/o solo videos as being such.

If I were to think of muscle gallery as g4p, then I would probably have to consider doing a photo shoot for Flex magazine, as G4P, (Jay in Daisy dukes anyone?)

See...there is simply too much room for interpretation at the end users level, to really call this G4P, per say. Don't get me wrong, the audience for this is mostly closeted gay men, or "curious" straight men, but still, it is vague enough that there is still some room for interpretation.

There is of course no room for interpretation, in watching Kai Greene fuck grapefruits for men, or dance naked for men, etc. Or pornography, escorting, etc. These would probably fit my definition better....

Nonetheless it is a moot argument, as it is a bad image for the "sport," and should be frowned upon at all levels.

M!

[HTexan]

Mmm, not true. 

99% of people have a price.  Just sayin'...

so what's the price for bay or Tim to do a chick?

[johnnynoname]

"G4p" is anytime a other wise straight man comprimises his sexuality solely because of money.  Furthermore, the sex act that he is getting paid for has to involve another dude and said dude has to either be giving or receiving

therefore anything "solo" (though produced for gay men) can't really be considered G4P

this is just my opinion

[Topskin69]

"G4p" is anytime a other wise straight man comprimises his sexuality solely because of money.  Furthermore, the sex act that he is getting paid for has to involve another dude and said dude has to either be giving or receiving

therefore anything "solo" (though produced for gay men) can't really be considered G4P

this is just my opinion

Yes...this is probably the best way to look at it. Though to be fair.. being filmed with your cock in your hand, jerking off for schmoes, has got to be a serious compromise for some of these people. I worked at a porn shop for about a year and a half, and it was amusing...almost all the gay porn, and especially the gay porn only featuring one dude doing "solo" acts... always had some guy, who looked half dead inside, hating life, with an expression on his face like... "Please lets get this shit over with!"

Flip over to the straight porn, and all they guys are like "Fuck yeah!" ....lol

I wonder if Jay was crying inside when he had to pose for musclemag wearing nothing but a towel, or daisy dukes, etc...

[haider]

Yes...this is probably the best way to look at it. Though to be fair.. being filmed with your cock in your hand, jerking off for schmoes, has got to be a serious compromise for some of these people. I worked at a porn shop for about a year and a half, and it was amusing...almost all the gay porn, and especially the gay porn only featuring one dude doing "solo" acts... always had some guy, who looked half dead inside, hating life, with an expression on his face like... "Please lets get this shit over with!"

Flip over to the straight porn, and all they guys are like "Fuck yeah!" ....lol

I wonder if Jay was crying inside when he had to pose for musclemag wearing nothing but a towel, or daisy dukes, etc...

u had to watch gay porn as part of your job? I'm a little lost on how u know what gay porn is like 

[Topskin69]

u had to watch gay porn as part of your job? I'm a little lost on how u know what gay porn is like 

No I didn't have to watch gay porn, but I did have to stock it, and sell it if a customer bought some, also you would occasionally have to see it if you were walking around the "theater" part of the store, and someone was watching it. So yes...working at a porn shop, you are bombarded with porn, mostly straight porn, but some gay porn as well, and there is no way to not see some of it.

The thing is that when you are working at a place like that....you completely become desensitized to porn, and become oblivious to things like breasts, penises, etc. A job with some funny stories, but not something I would recommend to other people.

[timfogarty]

therefore anything "solo" (though produced for gay men) can't really be considered G4P

you're jacking off in front of a camera man, a sound man, a lighting man, the director, the makeup guy.  for the musclehunks and powermen websites, you're doing this 5 times in 5 days.    sounds g4p to me

[haider]

No I didn't have to watch gay porn, but I did have to stock it, and sell it if a customer bought some, also you would occasionally have to see it if you were walking around the "theater" part of the store, and someone was watching it. So yes...working at a porn shop, you are bombarded with porn, mostly straight porn, but some gay porn as well, and there is no way to not see some of it.

The thing is that when you are working at a place like that....you completely become desensitized to porn, and become oblivious to things like breasts, penises, etc. A job with some funny stories, but not something I would recommend to other people.

very interesting, thanks for sharing. Didn't know porn stores had such viewing room/theatres. even if there are, i would have thought they'd be private, i mean FFS would you wanna see what else the customers doing in there while watching this stuff? 

Assuming u enjoyed porn before this porn and then became desensitized to it, did you ever 'recover' from this at a later point? Has it changed your view on watching porn, the porn industry, etc?

Man i've got a bunch of questions, but i dont wanna hijack this thread 

[Topskin69]

you're jacking off in front of a camera man, a sound man, a lighting man, the director, the makeup guy.  for the musclehunks and powermen websites, you're doing this 5 times in 5 days.    sounds g4p to me

Tim...you are contridicting yourself. Here is a quote from a previous statement of yours concerning this issue.

bay thinks musclegallery is g4p?   there's no nudity there.  suggestive videos, sure.  but no nudity. 

musclehunks is j/o videos.  sure that's a little more gay, and a bad image for the sport.  but its still not g4p.

g4p is escorting and prostitution.  prostitution is illegal.   it is certainly bad for the sport.  but same with the women.   there are IFBB pro women who escort.  they have the wrestling videos.   all of that is bad for the image of the sport.

what has always bothered me about the powers that be in bodybuilding is that they looked the other way regarding escorting, whether male or female, as long as it was kept out of the public eye.  but they blacklisted any guy who was openly gay, even those who never did prostitution or porn.