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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2009, 06:23:50 PM »
I agree, but in the case of Flex, he just broke his neck doing 140 mph in a SL500. I'd take PAC hitting me in the face anyday over that.

Tell that to Delahoya, Hatton and Cotto..lol!

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2009, 06:37:43 PM »
there  isnt much weight or force behined a 150 pound dude with gloves on
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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2009, 07:06:11 PM »
Who wins a 12 round boxing match?

Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Bodybuilding Athlete?

easy bodybuilder by knockout first round against the twink
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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2009, 07:25:01 PM »
toe to toe in a boxing ring yes.....but toe to toe the size of a bodybuilder would make a huge difference.  You could fucking run over a dude like PAC and that would be enough.  LOL.  Size means a lot in the real world. 

I agree with u that size means a lot in the real world, 99% of the time the bigger dude will win. 
BUT here we're talking about a guy who is arguably the best boxer of his generation going up against a big muscle man.
Whether it's the ring or the streets Pacman MURDERS any 250lb man (who just so happens to have big muscles)

You're delusional, quite stupid actually.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2009, 12:12:42 AM »
Funny thread, comparing one of the best boxers in the world to a bodybuilder, lol.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2009, 12:13:29 AM »
I agree, but in the case of Flex, he just broke his neck doing 140 mph in a SL500. I'd take PAC hitting me in the face anyday over that.


Probably had more to do with the safety of the mercedes, if he was in any other car probably would have gotten seriously hurt.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2009, 12:17:48 AM »
Give the bodybuilder some minimal training with an MMA fighter. Let him build up his stamina and learn how to take a punch... and possible throw one. Then, just maybe, the BB might last a few seconds into the round.

Otherwise, its lights out as soon as the bell rings.

No comparison between the two other than the fact that they both are muscular and have abs.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2009, 12:23:35 AM »

Probably had more to do with the safety of the mercedes, if he was in any other car probably would have gotten seriously hurt.
Maybe, but did you see the pic of the Merc, the damn thing was flat and twisted up.

Give the bodybuilder some minimal training with an MMA fighter. Let him build up his stamina and learn how to take a punch... and possible throw one. Then, just maybe, the BB might last a few seconds into the round.

Otherwise, its lights out as soon as the bell rings.

No comparison between the two other than the fact that they both are muscular and have abs.
Agreed. It's actually stupid, one is a fighter, one fights his own body for his looks

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2009, 12:27:01 AM »
Silly question.

More muscle mass = better fighting ability.  IFBB pro bodybuilder would win hands down, unless it were a bantamweight bodybuilder perhaps.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2009, 12:32:40 AM »
Silly question.

More muscle mass = better fighting ability.  IFBB pro bodybuilder would win hands down, unless it were a bantamweight bodybuilder perhaps.


No, more mass=less fighting ability. Unless the person has adapted their size for speed, which takes time. To use the Animal kindom as an example, there are animals  that have big ass arms and move fast, but they are invertabrates, namely the Praying Mantis and the Mantis Shrimp, which can break glass. But mostly for mammals bulk equates to slowness. In terms of the Big Cats (Pantherinae), the middle ground for  size, speed and strength is the Leopard.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2009, 02:22:33 AM »
He win, not by KO. KO means that the brain has been jarred against the skull real quick. PAC hitting some with decent, let alone huge traps like Johnnie Jackson, menas that their traps and corresponding neck muscles would prevent the head from snapping back...or that they lack a brain to begin with.

Sorry but this is utter garbage

Do you realise how vulreable a man's chin is?....... Pacquiao may not knock him out with one punch but with 12 rounds and the dude landing 50-100 punches a round you think JOJ would survive?
JOJ is a normal man who has never conditioned himself to take a solid blow, he isnt trained like a boxer and he doesn't sparr. Hes a bodybuilder who lifts heavy weights and he's fucking 5'7. Hes more or less the same height as Pacquiao.

You also have to consider taking a punch when you know its coming and when you are not expecting it.
Huge difference

Boxers are generally KO'd by punches they dont see coming and when their feet are not planted, for example Manny-Cotto when the 2nd knockdown occured it was delivered by a punch during an exchange of which Cotto never saw.

If JOJ atleast tries to fight against Pacquiao the guy will be caught in exchanges and with counterpunches, for 1. he is too slow (handpseed and the ability to get the hell out of the way from punches)
2. the guy probably doesn't have the correct punch form so hes easy to pick apart. No upperbody movement, no headmovement, no real defence to speak of.

People have to realize that mass doesnt equate to punching power entirely, its more to do with form and if you are getting the correct leverage to the punch. This is far more important.

Manny would knock out JOJ is 2 rounds probably, thats if he doesn't decide to absolutely rush him in the first round.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2009, 03:50:21 AM »
Sorry but this is utter garbage

Do you realise how vulreable a man's chin is?....... Pacquiao may not knock him out with one punch but with 12 rounds and the dude landing 50-100 punches a round you think JOJ would survive?
JOJ is a normal man who has never conditioned himself to take a solid blow, he isnt trained like a boxer and he doesn't sparr. Hes a bodybuilder who lifts heavy weights and he's fucking 5'7. Hes more or less the same height as Pacquiao.

You also have to consider taking a punch when you know its coming and when you are not expecting it.
Huge difference

Boxers are generally KO'd by punches they dont see coming and when their feet are not planted, for example Manny-Cotto when the 2nd knockdown occured it was delivered by a punch during an exchange of which Cotto never saw.

If JOJ atleast tries to fight against Pacquiao the guy will be caught in exchanges and with counterpunches, for 1. he is too slow (handpseed and the ability to get the hell out of the way from punches)
2. the guy probably doesn't have the correct punch form so hes easy to pick apart. No upperbody movement, no headmovement, no real defence to speak of.

People have to realize that mass doesnt equate to punching power entirely, its more to do with form and if you are getting the correct leverage to the punch. This is far more important.

Manny would knock out JOJ is 2 rounds probably, thats if he doesn't decide to absolutely rush him in the first round.
You do know what a knockout is, It has NOTHING to do with one's chin. One's brain is not located in one's chin. Please read what a KO is.

I already said, he would drop him. But reading comprehesion seems not your strong suit.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2009, 03:54:35 AM »
Cutler vs any boxer in a bb comp, who wins?

Makes about as much sense.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2009, 04:52:56 AM »
Cutler vs any boxer in a bb comp, who wins?

Makes about as much sense.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2009, 04:56:29 AM »
Cutler vs any boxer in a bb comp, who wins?

Makes about as much sense.

Careful Swede, with this boards love of twinks, some will disagree with you....

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2009, 05:10:14 AM »
Obviously Pac would win against any IFBB pro bodybuilder in a boxing match. That's a given.

However! -

There has to be a point of diminishing returns - how big, heavy, or strong does a bodybuilder have to be before he can actually hold his own against a 140lb prize fighter?

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2009, 06:33:50 AM »
Obviously Pac would win against any IFBB pro bodybuilder in a boxing match. That's a given.

However! -

There has to be a point of diminishing returns - how big, heavy, or strong does a bodybuilder have to be before he can actually hold his own against a 140lb prize fighter?

1000 pounds so he can just fall over him and kill him...

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2009, 07:22:47 AM »
Lump the bodybuilder in with these guys....all who have been knocked on their ass by Pacman.


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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2009, 08:42:29 AM »
Lump the bodybuilder in with these guys....all who have been knocked on their ass by Pacman.




And all the guys there that pacman beat, would KO pro bodybuilders....


Its not about mass, as much as it is about speed (and technique)

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2009, 08:48:17 AM »
size and weight doesnt always make the difference up tho,,, just look what happend to haye v valuev, 7st difference and as much in hight, and he nearly sparked him..

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2009, 08:51:23 AM »
All joking aside, does anybody know how many pounds of force Manny generates?

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2009, 09:13:21 AM »
size and weight doesnt always make the difference up tho,,, just look what happend to haye v valuev, 7st difference and as much in hight, and he nearly sparked him..

True David Haye almost had him by ref stoppage in the last round but I don't know if anyone is capable of knocking that big Neanderthal down for the count....he is just too massive.

It would be VERY interesting to see....probably would have to be a Vitali bomb straight down the middle.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2009, 09:46:33 AM »
You do know what a knockout is, It has NOTHING to do with one's chin. One's brain is not located in one's chin. Please read what a KO is.

I already said, he would drop him. But reading comprehesion seems not your strong suit.

eh?

Most knockouts are caused by a blow to the chin. Always aim for a man's chin, this is boxing 101.
Where do you think the terms "glass chin", "glass jaw" and "china chin" came from?

"In boxing, kickboxing and mixed martial arts, a chin refers to a fighter's ability to tolerate physical trauma to the face without being knocked out.

A fighter with a "good chin" refers to a fighter with tremendous ability to absorb punishment in the face, which can also be called "having a beard", "iron chin", or "good whiskers".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chin_%28boxing%29

Yet you claim that a man's chin has absolutely nothing to do with knockouts???

If Manny Pacquiao constantly landed blows on JOJ's chin hes going to get KNOCKED OUT period.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2009, 10:01:35 AM »
eh?

Most knockouts are caused by a blow to the chin. Always aim for a man's chin, this is boxing 101.
Where do you think the terms "glass chin", "glass jaw" and "china chin" came from?

"In boxing, kickboxing and mixed martial arts, a chin refers to a fighter's ability to tolerate physical trauma to the face without being knocked out.

A fighter with a "good chin" refers to a fighter with tremendous ability to absorb punishment in the face, which can also be called "having a beard", "iron chin", or "good whiskers".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chin_%28boxing%29

Yet you claim that a man's chin has absolutely nothing to do with knockouts???

If Manny Pacquiao constantly landed blows on JOJ's chin hes going to get KNOCKED OUT period.

6lbs of pressure on the chin and its lights out garunteed, you dont have to be hit that hard to go down.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Any IFBB Pro Athlete Bodybuilder in a Fight?
« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2009, 10:26:02 AM »
BBs wear thongs and some with glitter...the choice to win is obvious, with a thong on...you can never lose
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