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Where have all the anti-war protests gone?
« on: November 16, 2009, 05:07:37 AM »
Where have all the protests gone? US students in limbo
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | November 16, 2009 | Michael Mathes

Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 7:53:02 AM by Schnucki

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When Hemnecher Amen, a student, joined a protest outside the White House recently, it was the latest visible opposition here to US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hardly anyone took any notice.

"There's a lot of apathy and a growing disconnectedness to what's going on in world affairs," the frustrated Howard University junior said as around 200 people, including a handful of students, gathered for the march.

"Students are more interested in trying to get a job and make money."

With the US military several years into two faraway wars, American students like Amen are taking to the streets less often - and to less effect - than their Vietnam-era predecessors who were the vanguard of the anti-war movement in the 1960s and early 1970s.

The economic and academic pressures on today's youth, intimidation by the authorities, online distractions and conflicted views about the "good" war in Afghanistan, not to mention other causes such as health care and slashed school budgets clawing for attention, have conspired to snuff out anti-war activism on campus, experts and students say.

They acknowledge, too, that paradoxically President Barack Obama has hampered the movement because many of the largely leftist protest groups have not wanted to openly oppose him so early in his first term.

"There's this trust that he's going to fix it all," said Shara Esbenshade, 19, a sophomore at Stanford University and member of Stanford Says No To War.

She says there are no anti-war marches on her campus, only vigils, educational events and occasional protests against Condoleezza Rice, who has returned to Stanford after serving as George W Bush's secretary of state.

"We'd really like to start doing more about Afghanistan," she added. "But students here rising up? I really don't see that happening."

At Kent State University, where in 1970

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More evidence that the commie left was never against war, just against George Bush.

Where were the protests against Clinton bombing Serbia?  Oh that's right . . . . . .


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Re: Where have all the anti-war protests gone?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 06:00:43 AM »
They only protest when a Republican is in the white house  ;)


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Re: Where have all the anti-war protests gone?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 06:04:15 AM »
They only protest when a Republican is in the white house  ;)




Exactly.  It never has anything to do with war or peace.  The anti-war movement was a huge joke, a lie, and mostly backed by George Soros.  It was anti-Bush, not anti-War. 

Most of these college idiots would be applauding gleefully if Obama bombed Pakistan. 

Have fun on the unemployment line you morons.     

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Re: Where have all the anti-war protests gone?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 06:07:55 AM »
I think you're on to something here 336.

Just because Obama is the president doesn't somehow justify the war all of a sudden.

Sure, Obama has declared he wants to get out of Iraq.

But he wants to fight a war in Afghanistan.

Has clearly stated that he believes it is justified to go there.

And the troops are still in Iraq.


Regardless of who's are in charge of the biggest nations, I think it's a tremendous waste to see money being spent on trying to set up criminal thugs as puppet regimes (Karzai).

Obama wants to spend money both on foreign wars and a health care reform?

And a stimulus bill?

At least one of the three has to go.

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Re: Where have all the anti-war protests gone?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 06:09:57 AM »
They only protest when a Republican is in the white house  ;)

Correct.  It's partisan politics.  Just as suddenly people who supported the patriot act are 'outraged' at obama's constitutional abuses.  they excuse bad shit when the guy they voted for, does it.  Both sides do it.

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Re: Where have all the anti-war protests gone?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 06:13:32 AM »
Correct.  It's partisan politics.  Just as suddenly people who supported the patriot act are 'outraged' at obama's constitutional abuses.  they excuse bad shit when the guy they voted for, does it.  Both sides do it.

Most of the dems voted for it too 240.   

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Re: Where have all the anti-war protests gone?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 06:22:24 AM »
Most of the dems voted for it too 240.   

Well.... the circumstances of that vote are very questionable.  They couldn't read it because an FBI employee mailed anthrax to the building where they could debate it, then the FBI destroyed the spores to cover their asses.  Then the news anchors who reported on this mess got anthrax too. 

So while yes, the D's did vote for it, they did so in a shaky manner.  Kinda like the way Obama gave them a weekend to read the healthcare bill before voting. 

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Re: Where have all the anti-war protests gone?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 06:23:29 AM »
Well.... the circumstances of that vote are very questionable.  They couldn't read it because an FBI employee mailed anthrax to the building where they could debate it, then the FBI destroyed the spores to cover their asses.  Then the news anchors who reported on this mess got anthrax too. 

So while yes, the D's did vote for it, they did so in a shaky manner.  Kinda like the way Obama gave them a weekend to read the healthcare bill before voting. 

240 - do you agree with the basic jist of the article? 

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Re: Where have all the anti-war protests gone?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 06:32:26 AM »
We see this "Patriot Act" kind of shit enacted throughout the world.

Not to the same degree as in the USA, but it's pretty bad.

Turning into a police state.

Ideally, police wouldn't be wearing guns. Like the police officers in the UK back before the 90's.

It's all spiralling into more and more violence, now you got police officers tasering suspects.

Because they're not experienced in using their authority to control a situation without force.

Ie, they don't know how to just control a suspect with commands.


It's all about the respect and integrity for the citizen.

And you got the record company lobby pushing for crazy internet laws that would allow private companies to spy on private internet surfing.

As well as the government using child porn and terrorism as some kind of argument as to why they should be allowed to spy on what everyone surf.


Child porn and terrorism are usually indicators on a fcuked up society IMO.

And a democracy without freedom of speech, and little respect for the personal integrity is a pretty fcuked up society.

And little democracy at all IMO.
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