just a reminder for any lurking noobs- its 99% genetics

[JOHN MATRIX]

(meltdown thread)

diet = 2%
workout 'strategies' (oh brother  ) and techniques/form/intensity/etc..= 2%

95+% is nothing more than genetics, how your muscle bellies are shaped and how full they are, if you dont have the genetics (which you should be able to tell within the first 2-3 months or so) then NOTHING you do will 'get you big' (LOL).

all the supps/dedication/diet wont help you if your genetic muscle shape isnt there to begin with. just give up now. there is a corner store next to you fully stocked with beer. just go there. it will be ok. remeber there is always beer.

[Tapeworm]

Consistency > genetics


'Translation...'

[Matt C]

Genetics for shape and genetics for response to steroids are the two main things.

[JOHN MATRIX]

Consistency > genetics


'Translation...'

bullshit  all the consistency and 'hard work' in the world arent going to give you calves if you were born without calves or shoulder width or great arms if you dont have the genes for it to begin with.

[Tapeworm]

bullshit  all the consistency and 'hard work' in the world arent going to give you calves if you were born without calves or shoulder width or great arms if you dont have the genes for it to begin with.

I'll never look better than someone with great genetics who lifts hard and eats well, but I'll continue to look better than plenty of guys who would bury me because they simply don't get off their ass.  And my calves suck, but it's a safe bet that they look better than if I never trained them. 

If you're weak or look like shit, then make an effort to improve.  It can be frustrating but don't convince yourself that there's no point in even trying.  That's the right message for noobs.

You might be talking about on stage bodybuilding tho.  I'm more concerned with my daily walking around physique.

[webcake]

Just eat relatively good and lift weights. Simple.

If you want to pose in a thong for men........then it gets a little more complicated.

[clued-up]

genetics are everything. 

[Tombo]

Just eat relatively good and lift weights. Simple.

If you want to pose in a thong for men........then it gets a little more complicated.

LOL well said

[Tombo]

John Matrix over-analysing things to belittle people on the internet!!!

3/10

[Tapeworm]

John Matrix over-analysing things to belittle people on the internet!!!

3/10

I may disagree with Matrix but at least he's using the internet for it's intended purpose.

[Bones]

I'll never look better than someone with great genetics who lifts hard and eats well, but I'll continue to look better than plenty of guys who would bury me because they simply don't get off their ass.  And my calves suck, but it's a safe bet that they look better than if I never trained them. 

If you're weak or look like shit, then make an effort to improve.  It can be frustrating but don't convince yourself that there's no point in even trying.  That's the right message for noobs.

You might be talking about on stage bodybuilding tho.  I'm more concerned with my daily walking around physique.

   Well said.

[Rami]

considering genetically we are 99.9% identical

[TRIX]

1. Anyone can get huge
2. Not everyone has aesthetically pleasing physiques IFBB PRO worthy

[wavelength]

no it's all about dedication and beeing "hardcore"

[Pecs]

1. Anyone can get huge
2. Not everyone has aesthetically pleasing physiques IFBB PRO worthy

this

[affeman]

Genetics = A convenient excuse for looking like shit

[d0nny2600]

Genetics = A convenient excuse for looking like shit

ref. Deicide

[WillGrant]

Just eat relatively good and lift weights. Simple.

If you want to pose in a thong for men........then it gets a little more complicated.

Truth

[FitnessFrenzy]

(meltdown thread)

diet = 2%

You are quite retarded aren't you?

[Meso_z]

(meltdown thread)

diet = 2%
workout 'strategies' (oh brother  ) and techniques/form/intensity/etc..= 2%

95+% is nothing more than genetics, how your muscle bellies are shaped and how full they are, if you dont have the genetics (which you should be able to tell within the first 2-3 months or so) then NOTHING you do will 'get you big' (LOL).

all the supps/dedication/diet wont help you if your genetic muscle shape isnt there to begin with. just give up now. there is a corner store next to you fully stocked with beer. just go there. it will be ok. remeber there is always beer.

[Mars]

i actually improved my chest a lot after training for a year and thinking i was forever sticked up with a bird chest.
i still dont know what caused my chest to grow so much suddenly. probably the striving of using heavier weights everytime.
 i never was able to pull off that trick with my arms though.

[Meso_z]

i actually improved my chest a lot after training for a year and thinking i was forever sticked up with a bird chest.
i still dont know what caused my chest to grow so much suddenly. probably the striving of using heavier weights everytime.
 i never was able to pull off that trick with my arms though.

[Fatpanda]

(meltdown thread)

diet = 2%
workout 'strategies' (oh brother  ) and techniques/form/intensity/etc..= 2%

95+% is nothing more than genetics, how your muscle bellies are shaped and how full they are, if you dont have the genetics (which you should be able to tell within the first 2-3 months or so) then NOTHING you do will 'get you big' (LOL).

all the supps/dedication/diet wont help you if your genetic muscle shape isnt there to begin with. just give up now. there is a corner store next to you fully stocked with beer. just go there. it will be ok. remeber there is always beer.

bullshit.

[Immortal_Technique]

(meltdown thread)

diet = 2%
workout 'strategies' (oh brother  ) and techniques/form/intensity/etc..= 2%

95+% is nothing more than genetics, how your muscle bellies are shaped and how full they are, if you dont have the genetics (which you should be able to tell within the first 2-3 months or so) then NOTHING you do will 'get you big' (LOL).

all the supps/dedication/diet wont help you if your genetic muscle shape isnt there to begin with. just give up now. there is a corner store next to you fully stocked with beer. just go there. it will be ok. remeber there is always beer.

Haha epic novice summary.

[JasonH]

In a way I suppose it is 99% genetics - that is, how well you genetically respond to drugs.