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Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
« on: November 23, 2009, 07:42:41 AM »
Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
By Gabor Steingart

 AP

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US President Barack Obama is back in the US after an Asian trip that produced few results.

When he entered office, US President Barack Obama promised to inject US foreign policy with a new tone of respect and diplomacy. His recent trip to Asia, however, showed that it's not working. A shift to Bush-style bluntness may be coming.

There were only a few hours left before Air Force One was scheduled to depart for the flight home. US President Barack Obama trip through Asia had already seen him travel 24,000 kilometers, sit through a dozen state banquets, climb the Great Wall of China and shake hands with Korean children. It was high time to take stock of the trip.

Barack Obama looked tired on Thursday, as he stood in the Blue House in Seoul, the official residence of the South Korean president. He also seemed irritable and even slightly forlorn. The CNN cameras had already been set up. But then Obama decided not to play along, and not to answer the question he had already been asked several times on his trip: what did he plan to take home with him? Instead, he simply said "thank you, guys," and disappeared. David Axelrod, senior advisor to the president, fielded the journalists' questions in the hallway of the Blue House instead, telling them that the public's expectations had been "too high."

The mood in Obama's foreign policy team is tense following an extended Asia trip that produced no palpable results. The "first Pacific president," as Obama called himself, came as a friend and returned as a stranger. The Asians smiled but made no concessions.

Lost Some Stature

Upon taking office, Obama said that he wanted to listen to the world, promising respect instead of arrogance. But Obama's currency isn't as strong as he had believed. Everyone wants respect, but hardly anyone is willing to pay for it. Interests, not emotions, dominate the world of realpolitik. The Asia trip revealed the limits of Washington's new foreign policy: Although Obama did not lose face in China and Japan, he did appear to have lost some of his initial stature.

In Tokyo, the new center-left government even pulled out of its participation in a mission which saw the Japanese navy refueling US warships in the Indian Ocean as part of the Afghanistan campaign. In Beijing, Obama failed to achieve any important concessions whatsoever. There will be no binding commitments from China to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. A revaluation of the Chinese currency, which is kept artificially weak, has been postponed. Sanctions against Iran? Not a chance. Nuclear disarmament? Not an issue for the Chinese.

The White House did not even stand up for itself when it came to the question of human rights in China. The president, who had said only a few days earlier that freedom of expression is a universal right, was coerced into attending a joint press conference with Chinese President Hu Jintao, at which questions were forbidden. Former US President George W. Bush had always managed to avoid such press conferences.


Relatively Unsuccessful

A look back in time reveals the differences. When former President Bill Clinton went to China in June 1998, Beijing wanted to impress the Americans. A press conference in the Great Hall of the People, broadcast on television as a 70-minute live discussion, became a sensation the world over. Clinton mentioned the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, when the government used tanks against protestors. But then President Jiang Zemin defended the tough approach taken by the Chinese Communists. At the end of the exchange, the Chinese president praised the debate and said: "I believe this is democracy!"

Obama visited a new China, an economic power that is now making its own demands. America should clean up its government finances, and the weak dollar is unacceptable, the head of the Chinese banking authority said, just as Obama's plane was about to land.

Obama's new foreign policy has also been relatively unsuccessful elsewhere, with even friends like Israel leaving him high and dry. For the government of Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, peace is only conceivable under its terms. Netanyahu has rejected Obama's call for a complete moratorium on the construction of settlements. As a result, Obama has nothing to offer the Palestinians and the Syrians. "We thought we had some leverage," says Martin Indyk, a former ambassador to Israel under the Clinton administration and now an advisor to Obama. "But that proved to be an illusion."

Even the president seems to have lost his faith in a genial foreign policy. The approach that was being used in Afghanistan this spring, with its strong emphasis on civilian reconstruction, is already being changed. "We're searching for an exit strategy," said a staff member with the National Security Council on the sidelines of the Asia trip.

'A Lot Like Jimmy Carter'

An end to diplomacy is also taking shape in Washington's policy toward Tehran. It is now up to Iran, Obama said, to convince the world that its nuclear power is peaceful. While in Asia, Obama mentioned "consequences" unless it followed his advice. This puts the president, in his tenth month in office, where Bush began -- with threats. "Time is running out," Obama said in Korea. It was the same phrase Bush used against former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, shortly before he sent in the bombers.

There are many indications that the man in charge at the White House will take a tougher stance in the future. Obama's advisors fear a comparison with former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, even more than with Bush. Prominent Republicans have already tried to liken Obama to the humanitarian from Georgia, who lost in his bid to win a second term, because voters felt that he was too soft. "Carter tried weakness and the world got tougher and tougher because the predators, the aggressors, the anti-Americans, the dictators, when they sense weakness, they all start pushing ahead," Newt Gingrich, the former Republican speaker in the House of Representatives, recently said. And then he added: "This does look a lot like Jimmy Carter."

Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan

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Re: Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 07:45:23 AM »
well, he's almost a year in, and the world hasn't droppped the dollar, despite the domestic efforts of so many to tank confidence and hence its worth.

Funny... the repubs are the ones tlaking so much about the economy being bad.  And they're convincing moderates to drop the buck, which is making the economy worse.  I know it'll be a win in 2012, and that's all that matters.  But their bank balances will suffer too.

Granted, increasing our $ supply by 120% was asinine - yes.  No denying that.

But all the people screaming about it, I mean... Americans talking nonstop about how weak the dollar is... WTF...

There has to be a way to responsibly bring about change, without shitting on america's confidence at the same time.  our dollar, economy, safety is all built upon that confidence.

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Re: Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 07:47:43 AM »
well, he's almost a year in, and the world hasn't droppped the dollar, despite the domestic efforts of so many to tank confidence and hence its worth.

Funny... the repubs are the ones tlaking so much about the economy being bad.  And they're convincing moderates to drop the buck, which is making the economy worse.  I know it'll be a win in 2012, and that's all that matters.  But their bank balances will suffer too.

Granted, increasing our $ supply by 120% was asinine - yes.  No denying that.

But all the people screaming about it, I mean... Americans talking nonstop about how weak the dollar is... WTF...

There has to be a way to responsibly bring about change, without shitting on america's confidence at the same time.  our dollar, economy, safety is all built upon that confidence.

Thats because most democrats dont care about the economy as much as they do screaming and stamping their little feet for more free stuff and benefits. 

 

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Re: Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 07:50:31 AM »
saddam printing fake US Dollars in an effort to undermine confidence in the buck, spike inflation, and tank the buck.

some folks here, with their 'dollar is ending' speeches on a daily basis are devaluing it as well.

i'm not saying don't be honest about the state of things.  but accusing a US president who inherited an economy that near-collapsed 4 months before he took office of "purposefully sinking the dollar" is cold.

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Re: Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 07:53:54 AM »
saddam printing fake US Dollars in an effort to undermine confidence in the buck, spike inflation, and tank the buck.

some folks here, with their 'dollar is ending' speeches on a daily basis are devaluing it as well.

i'm not saying don't be honest about the state of things.  but accusing a US president who inherited an economy that near-collapsed 4 months before he took office of "purposefully sinking the dollar" is cold.

So the NYT is hoping Obama fails now too? 

Obama campaigned for this damn job 240 and said he knew what to do.  you cant let him off the hook for that.  He campaigained for TARP, appointed Geither, Summers, et al. 

He voted for every budget busting budget and wanted more spending not less.

He rammed through, what I told you would be a fraudulent stimulus bill, which it was and is. 

He is seeking massive new spending even now. 

So cry me freaking river 240.  Obama has made bad choice after choice since he took his senate seat.
 

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Re: Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 07:59:24 AM »
I'm not defending obama's positions.  And I'm not telling anyone what to say or not to say.

I'm just saying that it occured to me the USD is based solely on the confidence of people.  And many people (for political or other reasons) are working their hardest to erode this confidence.  This, in turn, erodes the dollar's value. If this shit had gone down 30 years ago, the economy would have recovered already, as you wouldn't have had 10 million message board warriors trying to convince their peers the world is ending, dollar is sunk, etc.

It's just interesting to me.  yeah, O is spending like a drunken sailor.  But confidence is a self-fulfilling prophesy sometimes.

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Re: Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 08:02:30 AM »
I'm not defending obama's positions.  And I'm not telling anyone what to say or not to say.

I'm just saying that it occured to me the USD is based solely on the confidence of people.  And many people (for political or other reasons) are working their hardest to erode this confidence.  This, in turn, erodes the dollar's value. If this shit had gone down 30 years ago, the economy would have recovered already, as you wouldn't have had 10 million message board warriors trying to convince their peers the world is ending, dollar is sunk, etc.

It's just interesting to me.  yeah, O is spending like a drunken sailor.  But confidence is a self-fulfilling prophesy sometimes.


Are you blind?

The lack of confidence is based on the decisisions and actions of this admn in not doing the right thing. 

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Re: Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 08:03:22 AM »
I'm not defending obama's positions.  And I'm not telling anyone what to say or not to say.

I'm just saying that it occured to me the USD is based solely on the confidence of people.  And many people (for political or other reasons) are working their hardest to erode this confidence.  This, in turn, erodes the dollar's value. If this shit had gone down 30 years ago, the economy would have recovered already, as you wouldn't have had 10 million message board warriors trying to convince their peers the world is ending, dollar is sunk, etc.

It's just interesting to me.  yeah, O is spending like a drunken sailor.  But confidence is a self-fulfilling prophesy sometimes.


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Re: Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 08:05:25 AM »
"Are you blind?  The lack of confidence is based on the decisisions and actions of this admn in not doing the right thing.  "

100% of it?  Or 99% of it?

if even 1% of the fear, confusion, and panic out there is due to the Alex Jones, online youtubers, or message board fearmongers, then yes, there is a major contibution going on.

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Re: Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2009, 08:08:47 AM »
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