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Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« on: November 23, 2009, 06:00:02 PM »

 Bishop Tobin May I suggest that if abortion is against your moral code, then you should not have one. Problem solved.lawmakers have to write laws for the entire population, not just Catholics


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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 10:21:55 PM »
Bottom line is, don't claim you're a Christian, in this case Catholic, if you are for abortion. I'm not a Catholic but I'm happy to see he was not able to take communion. The right choice was made.

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 04:41:59 AM »
Blacken - I think the Bishop should keep to himself and not give idiots like Matthes the time.  I personally would not criminalize abortion, but I also dont want to pay for others elective abortions either.   

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 06:17:21 AM »

 Bishop Tobin May I suggest that if abortion is against your moral code, then you should not have one. Problem solved.lawmakers have to write laws for the entire population, not just Catholics



Great logic.Hey if your against slavery,just dont own one but let the rest of us have one.Hey if you like Jews dont put one in the oven but for those of us who do hate Jews let us do as we please.As usual Mathews is a simpleton.

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 01:42:20 PM »
Great logic.Hey if your against slavery,just dont own one but let the rest of us have one.Hey if you like Jews dont put one in the oven but for those of us who do hate Jews let us do as we please.As usual Mathews is a simpleton

your calling Mathews a simpleton :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 02:20:44 PM »
Great logic.Hey if your against slavery,just dont own one but let the rest of us have one.Hey if you like Jews dont put one in the oven but for those of us who do hate Jews let us do as we please.As usual Mathews is a simpleton

your calling Mathews a simpleton :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I know this will shock you.But pro life people think that abortion is the murder of a child.To them,its far worse then slavery and the equal to the holacaust.Mathews thinks by just saying "you dont like it,dont get one" and its a great answer.Hey,Chris,I want to rape your wife,you dont like rape you dont do it,but how dare you try to stop me.

Sorry if you dont get the analogy.Your an Obama supporter so Im not surprised.

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 02:22:32 PM »
and you think palin would make a good president :D

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2009, 08:51:07 AM »
and you think palin would make a good president :D

Certainly better then that little Jeremaiah Wright racist piece of trash and his tranny wife that we have in there now.With his bowing and knocking America and his hatred of everything this country stands for and was built on.Too bad he wasnt aborted.

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 09:23:09 AM »
What a mockery!  Priests in the church are molesting young children; the church is covering it up, moving guilty priests around to other parishes, and then lecturing others about morality and denying the communion.  This is Ted Haggard in another form.  Why people feel the need for a middleman between them and their god is something I will never understand. 

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2009, 09:26:25 AM »
What a mockery!  Priests in the church are molesting young children; the church is covering it up, moving guilty priests around to other parishes, and then lecturing others about morality and denying the communion.  This is Ted Haggard in another form.  Why people feel the need for a middleman between them and their god is something I will never understand. 

The answer is this.If you dont like the rules of the Catholic church LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!PATRICK KENNEDY A LITTLE STRUNG OUT JUNKIE,IN AND OUT OF REHAB HIS WHOLE LIFE,HAS NO POWER OVER THE CHURCH.hE IS USED TO HIS FAT DRUNKEN DADDY FIXING THINGS FOR HIM.NOW THAT HIS MURDERING FATHER IS A ROTTING CORPSE HE CRIES LIKE A LITTLE BITCH AND HAS HIS LIB SCUM BAGS FIGHT HIS BATTLES FOR HIM.What a girl.

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2009, 09:28:03 AM »
Even PEDOFILES have an opinion. ::)

How do you know this guy is a pedofile? Oh thats right he's a priest and all priests are pedofiles right? Just like all fake vets are mentally unstable, uneducated, morally bacnkrupt, dog fucking queers?
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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2009, 07:12:45 PM »
How do you know this guy is a pedofile? Oh thats right he's a priest and all priests are pedofiles right? Just like all fake vets are mentally unstable, uneducated, morally bacnkrupt, dog fucking queers?

Ouch!  :-[

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2009, 07:30:59 PM »
How do you know this guy is a pedofile? Oh thats right he's a priest and all priests are pedofiles right? Just like all fake vets are mentally unstable, uneducated, morally bacnkrupt, dog fucking queers?
He didn't say this priest was a pedo, but without a doubt what he said is true and has been proven so many times.  There have been many coverups of pedo priests.  He's a part of the system that was ok with that.

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2009, 08:01:13 PM »
Is this an interview ?

It just looks like Chris Matthews spouting off, interrupting the priest, telling him 'go ahead' and then interrupting him again.

Why bother having guests at all if you don't let them say anything ?

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2009, 08:45:20 PM »
Is this an interview ?

It just looks like Chris Matthews spouting off, interrupting the priest, telling him 'go ahead' and then interrupting him again.

Why bother having guests at all if you don't let them say anything ?
Chris isn't that bad.  He actually gives time for responses and really only starts cutting them off when they start diverting or don't answer.  If you want bad, check this out:



The now defunct "Crossfire" was also notorious for being nothing but idiots cutting eachother off.

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2009, 10:52:08 PM »
Chris isn't that bad.  He actually gives time for responses and really only starts cutting them off when they start diverting or don't answer.  If you want bad, check this out:



The now defunct "Crossfire" was also notorious for being nothing but idiots cutting eachother off.

Now - that's just dumb, lol !!

What a pathetic interviewer. Schiff had something to say but the interviewer decided from the start not to let him say it. This is playground stuff.

You really shouldn't bring experts on if you wont let them speak.

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2009, 05:06:07 AM »
That was ridiculus.  Peter was making good points and the fool odonnell just would not let him get a word out. 

As far as leg tingle, what else do you expect?

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2009, 05:19:38 AM »
That was ridiculus.  Peter was making good points and the fool odonnell just would not let him get a word out. 

As far as leg tingle, what else do you expect?
I bet it cost him to do that.  For one thing, the program he did that on was Ed Shultz's show.  Ed since day one has made a big point of letting the opposition speak.  On his radio program, if you have an issue with Ed, you go to the front of the line and he gives them all kinds of time to say what they want.  And when he interupts the person, he almost always says, "but I'll give you ample time to respond" and he does.  So I don't think that sat well with Ed or his stupid ass producer.  I don't like Ed's producer, me and him have had arguments that lasted 4+ hours.  Ed's producer is a fucking dick.  Anyway, O'Donnel lost a lot of interested listeners the day he did that to Peter.

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2009, 05:23:32 AM »
I bet it cost him to do that.  For one thing, the program he did that on was Ed Shultz's show.  Ed since day one has made a big point of letting the opposition speak.  On his radio program, if you have an issue with Ed, you go to the front of the line and he gives them all kinds of time to say what they want.  And when he interupts the person, he almost always says, "but I'll give you ample time to respond" and he does.  So I don't think that sat well with Ed or his stupid ass producer.  I don't like Ed's producer, me and him have had arguments that lasted 4+ hours.  Ed's producer is a fucking dick.  Anyway, O'Donnel lost a lot of interested listeners the day he did that to Peter.

The thing is that Peter is not a partisian hack or attack dog.  He has a point of view and will give you the reasons why.  His views are not politically based, and he goes after Bush all the time for that he did, with the wars, the spending, etc. 

I think Odonnel did that because he was out of Peters' league on the substance of the issue and had to mask that by attacking him like that. 

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2009, 05:32:44 AM »
The thing is that Peter is not a partisian hack or attack dog.  He has a point of view and will give you the reasons why.  His views are not politically based, and he goes after Bush all the time for that he did, with the wars, the spending, etc. 

I think Odonnel did that because he was out of Peters' league on the substance of the issue and had to mask that by attacking him like that. 
you don't hear me say this very often, but "Spot on."  I agree 100%.

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Re: Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2009, 08:53:13 AM »
This is why the Catholic church has zero moral authority.... this and their silence during the Holocaust. :'(



Experts: Bishops covered up priests' child abuse
By SHAWN POGATCHNIK, Associated Press Writer

DUBLIN – Bishops of the Roman Catholic Church in Dublin covered up decades of child abuse by priests in order to protect the church's reputation, an expert commission reported Thursday after a three-year investigation.

Abuse victims welcomed the commission's report on the Dublin Archdiocese's mishandling of child abuse cases — one of several government investigations into chronic child rape, beatings and other cruelty in Catholic-run schools, children's workhouses and orphanages in 1975-2004.

The government said the investigation "shows clearly that a systemic, calculated perversion of power and trust was visited on helpless and innocent children in the archdiocese."

"The perpetrators must continue to be brought to justice, and the people of Ireland must know that this can never happen again," the government said, also apologizing for the state's failure to hold church authorities accountable to the law.

This is the second major government-ordered report this year exploring how and why Irish authorities permitted widespread abuse of boys and girls at the hands of the Catholic Church throughout most of the 20th century, the gravest scandal in the history of independent Ireland.

The 720-page report — delivered to the government in July but released Thursday — analyzes the cases of 46 priests against whom 320 complaints were filed. The 46 were selected from more than 150 Dublin priests implicated in molesting or raping boys and girls since 1940. Eleven priests convicted of child abuse are named in the report, but 33 are referred to by aliases and two have their names blacked out because they have yet to face justice.

The report rejected past bishops' key claim that they were ignorant of both the scale and criminality of priests' abuse of children, showing that the Dublin Archdiocese negotiated a 1987 insurance policy for future legal costs of defending lawsuits and compensation claims.

At the time, bishops knew of at least 17 priests linked to abuse cases, the report said, and "the taking out of insurance was an act proving knowledge of child sexual abuse as a potential major cost to the archdiocese."

Investigators spent three years poring over 60,000 previously secret Dublin church files. They were handed over by Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, a veteran Vatican diplomat appointed to Dublin in 2004 with a brief to confront the scandal. Among the files were more than 5,500 that Martin's predecessor, retired Cardinal Desmond Connell, had tried to keep locked in the archbishop's private vault.

The investigators, led by a judge and two lawyers, said that while it was not their job to confirm the scale of abuse cases, they had no doubt the 46 priests abused many more than 320 children.

"One priest admitted to sexually abusing over 100 children, while another accepted that he had abused on a fortnightly basis during the currency of his ministry which lasted for over 25 years," they wrote.

Three Dublin archbishops — John Charles McQuaid (1940-72), Dermot Ryan (1972-84) and Kevin McNamara (1985-87) — did not tell police about clerical abuse cases, instead opting to avoid public scandals by shuttling offenders from parish to parish, the commission found.

It was not until 1995 that then-Archbishop Connell allowed police to see church files on 17 clerical abuse cases kept in a secret, locked vault, though at the time Connell had records of complaints against at least 29 priests, the report says.

Justice Minister Dermot Ahern said the state would renew efforts to prosecute more of the 46 priests in the report, as well as police officers that the investigation found colluded with church authorities to suppress complaints.

Ahern said, however, that the cover-ups reflected "a different era where there was deference by state agencies to the church. I don't think that would happen today."

The investigators lauded a handful of priests and mostly low-ranking police who pursued complaints and prosecutions, almost always unsuccessfully, from the 1960s to the 1980s. Senior police officers "clearly regarded priests as being outside their remit," handing "complaints to the archdiocese instead of investigating them."

"A few (priests) were courageous and brought complaints to the attention of their superiors. The vast majority simply chose to turn a blind eye," the report said.

In May, the government published a report on decades of child abuse in Catholic-run schools, workhouses and orphanages. More than 12,000 victims of rape, beatings and metal abuse have received compensation payments from a government panel exceeding euro800 million ($1.2 billion).