daily meals....

[IrishMuscle84]

Anyone eating their daily 6 meals or saying fuck it and waiting for the big meal??

[Stark]

six daily meals is a must

[MAXX]

just bring one meal and two shakes to work how hard is it  

breakfast meal at home
shake at work
meal at work
shake at work

then two meals at home

= 6 meals

ofcourse you will get the comments about your steroids shakes at work but it's better than having to down 3 real food meals at work.

[Boost]

"Shakes"

Oh brother 
 

It's all about maxing out your metabolism through progressive higher calorie intake

shoot for 5000 cals and you're body will be a furnace

[wavelength]

lol, 6 meals a day
completely irrelevant, total intake is what counts

[Team Diver]

ofcourse you will get the comments about your steroids shakes at work but it's better than having to down 3 real food meals at work.

  at steroid shakes, it's typical! But the worse thing is, even if they believe it's just concentrated protein from milk/egg etc., they will think that you are muscular ONLY beacuse of those, not because you've been pushing brutal weights in the gym for years...

[MAXX]

lol, 6 meals a day
completely irrelevant, total intake is what counts

yeah but it's kinda hard to eat say 150 grams of protein in one sitting no?

[tbombz]

yeah but it's kinda hard to eat say 150 grams of protein in one sitting no?

protein should be staggered into more than just one meal, wavelength knows this and he does it himself, he eats one gigantic meal of whatever he wants, and then sips on a 100g whey protein shake throughout the day

[NaturalWonder83]

yes u must eat the 6 meals!

[nzmusclemonster]

You must get 6 meals or you will go into a catabolic state.

[Boost]

My best plan for keeping muscle fullness and promoting growth is

7x800 calorie meals.

Tons of fat, or tons of carbs,

but not both

6 am

9 am

11 am

1pm

4 pm

7 pm

9 pm

[wavelength]

yeah but it's kinda hard to eat say 150 grams of protein in one sitting no?

That's true, whatever is most convenient.

[wavelength]

protein should be staggered into more than just one meal, wavelength knows this and he does it himself, he eats one gigantic meal of whatever he wants, and then sips on a 100g whey protein shake throughout the day

true but getting it in e.g. in two sittings would be fine too if one can stomach it

[tbombz]

true but getting it in e.g. in two sittings would be fine too if one can stomach it

no, you need 24/7 feed of aminos for optimal results. which means you need to eat several times per day.. even with the sloweest acting protein sources..red meat and casein.. you cant achieve a steady flow of aminos 24 hours a day unless you have at least 3-4 meals, or some kind of steady state protein feed, like slowly sipping a shake throughout the day(like you)

[wavelength]

no, you need 24/7 feed of aminos for optimal results. which means you need to eat several times per day.. even with the sloweest acting protein sources..red meat and casein.. you cant achieve a steady flow of aminos 24 hours a day unless you have at least 3-4 meals, or some kind of steady state protein feed, like slowly sipping a shake throughout the day(like you)

Then why are there studies showing that meal (and therefore also protein) frequency is irrelevant for body composition? There is even one showing a slight advantage of only eating once a day.

[tbombz]

Then why are there studies showing that meal (and therefore also protein) frequency is irrelevant for body composition? There is even one showing a slight advantage of only eating once a day.

produce the studies

[MAXX]

no, you need 24/7 feed of aminos for optimal results. which means you need to eat several times per day.. even with the sloweest acting protein sources..red meat and casein.. you cant achieve a steady flow of aminos 24 hours a day unless you have at least 3-4 meals, or some kind of steady state protein feed, like slowly sipping a shake throughout the day(like you)

i think a bigger meal takes longer time to digest so if you eat a really big meal you can wait a longer time untill next meal, vice versa if you eat a smaller meal you need less time for next meal. don't have any studies to back up what I'm saying, just my common sense speaking...

[tbombz]

i think a bigger meal takes longer time to digest so if you eat a really big meal you can wait a longer time untill next meal, vice versa if you eat a smaller meal you need less time for next meal. don't have any studies to back up what I'm saying, just my common sense speaking...

protein digests at about 2-10 grams per hour depending on the source, and it isnt varied too much by other foods you eat, just from protein source to protein source. something like  whey digests at about 10 grams an hour, something like casein digests about 4-5 grams per hour, with a bit of an increase in digestion rate as time goes on.

[wavelength]

produce the studies

e.g.:

- Bortz WM, et al. Weight loss and frequency of feeding. New England Journal of Medicine, Feb 17, 1966; 274: 376-379.

- Young CM, et al. Metabolic effects of meal frequency on normal young men. Journal of the American Dietetic Association, Oct, 1972; 61: 391-398.

- Sudha Wadhwa P, et al. Metabolic consequences of feeding frequency in man. American
Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Aug, 1973; 26: 823-830.

- Dallosso HM, et al. Feeding frequency and energy balance in adult males. Human Nutrition.
Clinical Nutrition, 1982; 36C: 25-39.

- Verboeket-van de Venne WP, et al. Effect of the pattern of food intake on human energy
metabolism. British Journal of Nutrition, Jul, 1993; 70: 103-115.

- Arnold LM, et al. Effect of isoenergetic intake of three or nine meals on plasma lipoproteins and glucose metabolism. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Mar, 1993; 57: 446-451.


Here is the study suggesting a slight advantage of 1 meal a day on body composition:

- K. Stote, D. Baer, K. Spears, et al. A controlled trial of reduced meal frequency without caloric restriction in healthy, normal-weight, middle-aged adults. Am J Clin Nutr, Apr, 2007; 85: 981-988.

BACKGROUND: Although consumption of 3 meals/d is the most common pattern of eating in industrialized countries, a scientific rationale for this meal frequency with respect to optimal health is lacking. A diet with less meal frequency can improve the health and extend the lifespan of laboratory animals, but its effect on humans has never been tested. OBJECTIVE: A pilot study was conducted to establish the effects of a reduced-meal-frequency diet on health indicators in healthy, normal-weight adults. DESIGN: The study was a randomized crossover design with two 8-wk treatment periods. During the treatment periods, subjects consumed all of the calories needed for weight maintenance in either 3 meals/d or 1 meal/d. RESULTS: Subjects who completed the study maintained their body weight within 2 kg of their initial weight throughout the 6-mo period. There were no significant effects of meal frequency on heart rate, body temperature, or most of the blood variables measured. However, when consuming 1 meal/d, subjects had a significant increase in hunger; a significant modification of body composition, including reductions in fat mass; significant increases in blood pressure and in total, LDL-, and HDL-cholesterol concentrations; and a significant decrease in concentrations of cortisol. CONCLUSIONS: Normal-weight subjects are able to comply with a 1 meal/d diet. When meal frequency is decreased without a reduction in overall calorie intake, modest changes occur in body composition, some cardiovascular disease risk factors, and hematologic variables. Diurnal variations may affect outcomes.