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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2009, 09:44:35 AM »
first investment rule..Buy low sell high...

Or sell high and buy low....




You wanna be cute or are you gonna give some meaningfull suggestions?

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2009, 09:47:57 AM »
You wanna be cute or are you gonna give some meaningfull suggestions?

Sounds like a plan.  Nicky:  since you claim to be so brilliant, why dont you give us a 6 month outlook and we can revisit this thread and see if your projections hold up. 

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2009, 09:53:37 AM »
 

LVLT= level three communications...Zombie company....short

Bond holders will own it...Buffet is a major Bond holder in this company
 


I meant macro projections like the Dow, S&P, Gold, Oil, etc. 

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2009, 10:05:09 AM »
I'm more of a micro investor myself

I'm all about the positive alpha...


predictions for the end of 2010

S&P 500=1350

Dow= 11,300

gold, 750

Oil= Won;t even make a prediction...cause opec can do what they want

however, i think we'll be range bound 70-90...


Ok - so 6 months or 12 months from now when you are still bashing Palin and I am calling Obama a communist, we can revist this thread. 

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2009, 10:17:42 AM »

Since i'm such a nice guy...i will offer you the chance of opening a manged account with me...

fees' are 2 and 17.5%

so you pay me a management fee of 2 annually, and i take 17.5% of the profits..

The minimum investment is 250,000 K...

You're really are too much.

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2009, 10:22:06 AM »

Since i'm such a nice guy...i will offer you the chance of opening a manged account with me...

fees' are 2 and 17.5%

so you pay me a management fee of 2 annually, and i take 17.5% of the profits..

The minimum investment is 250,000 K...

Do you think I would invest my money with someone who can't even spell the word "depreciate" correctly?

 

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2009, 10:24:04 AM »
Do you think I would invest my money with someone who can't even spell the word "depreciate" correctly?

 

Hey 333386, housing is going to go down as well as commercial real estate. Did you know that?

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2009, 10:25:21 AM »
Hey 333386, housing is going to go down as well as commercial real estate. Did you know that?

He must have been reading my articles for the past few months. 

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2009, 10:51:26 AM »
Hey 333386, gold is going to go down as well as gold mining. Did you know that?


lol

That great news. I think I'll buy some more.  :-*

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2009, 12:12:54 PM »
i have beaten my benchmark average, the S&p 500 ever year since 1996..I'm worth It man

I started investing in intel, msft, aol in 1996...I sold half my positions in each one, and got my monies back...


I still hold msft to this day..that 30 dollar dividend it paid fucking sucked..



1996?  You said you were between 26-28 yrs old.  That means you started investing, and beating the S&P 500 at ages 13-15?

You sound even more full of shit, if that's possible.
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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2009, 12:27:31 PM »
Ooops.  Looks like somebody just got exposed.    :D

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2009, 12:35:10 PM »
1.  How old are you?  26-28
2.  Did you do lines this morning?  NO

3.  I am still not convinced you have an MBA.  LET'S BET YOU ACCOUNT..


4.  You hate women.  nO, i LOVE HOOKERS
5.  You are utterly petrified of Palin.  ( NO I WOULD PUT MY DICK IN HER) DOES THAT ANSWER YOU QUESTION 




Brutal self owning...

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2009, 01:57:36 PM »


Brutal self owning...

It's the cocaine.

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2009, 03:12:41 PM »
It's the cocaine.

Its not that hard to do Bindare.  The Luke tried the same crap with Skip and I and never returned after the beat down we administered to him. 

Little Nicky will be the same.   

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2009, 04:34:51 PM »
It's going to be a lot of fun watching this twink try and recover.  Like a fish flapping around on dry land.  :D

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2009, 03:18:08 PM »
I'm making 5.6 - 13% per month by selling covered calls on GG.  The only reasonable way to play the stock market game.

Sold the Dec 18 call for 1.25 at a strike price of 46, bought the stock at 44.3595.  Do the math if you don't believe my % returns.

Stock goes down and option expires, I make 5.6%, if the call goes into the money I make 13%

I'll post the strike and price of the call I sell next month if anyone wants to follow what I am doing.

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2009, 05:05:56 PM »
I'm making 5.6 - 13% per month by selling covered calls on GG.  The only reasonable way to play the stock market game.

Sold the Dec 18 call for 1.25 at a strike price of 46, bought the stock at 44.3595.  Do the math if you don't believe my % returns.

Stock goes down and option expires, I make 5.6%, if the call goes into the money I make 13%

I'll post the strike and price of the call I sell next month if anyone wants to follow what I am doing.

That's a nice trade in itself - but 13% return on a trade is a far cry from 13% return per month on a portfolio.

I presume all your eggs aren't in this basket, right ?

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2009, 05:19:21 PM »
That's a nice trade in itself - but 13% return on a trade is a far cry from 13% return per month on a portfolio.

I presume all your eggs aren't in this basket, right ?


Yes you are correct, but if you use the appropriate tools to evaluate the true cost of an option vs what the market rate is, the strategy is very consistent.


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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2009, 08:35:18 PM »
Yes you are correct, but if you use the appropriate tools to evaluate the true cost of an option vs what the market rate is, the strategy is very consistent.



I have been considering the strategy myself. Whilst it seems pretty straightforward, what do you do when the underlying drops in value ? Obviously, you still have the option revenue as a cushion - but you wouldn't hold the underlying down to zero.

What concerns me is that the underlying drops, I get out and then it moves back up again and I actually get called. Do you just buy back the option and dump the stock if it tanks ?

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Re: Schiff - "Gasoline going to $8.00 a gallon"
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2009, 02:26:04 PM »
I have been considering the strategy myself. Whilst it seems pretty straightforward, what do you do when the underlying drops in value ? Obviously, you still have the option revenue as a cushion - but you wouldn't hold the underlying down to zero.

What concerns me is that the underlying drops, I get out and then it moves back up again and I actually get called. Do you just buy back the option and dump the stock if it tanks ?

There are stop losses, selling back the call, etc.  Or you can hold it until options expiration sell another call against it at 3-4 strikes out with 30% prob.