Author Topic: Who is the real bad ass of bodybuilding? (Read 19839 times)

Was this before or after Mike went crazy? Seems like the man eat, sleep, and dreamed about beating Arnold. I beleive that type of obsession can lead one to crack or become dulusional or depressed. Or he may have caught Arnold outside one time. Who knows, shit happens outside of buildings when nobody is looking.

trustnoone · « **Reply #131 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:54:10 PM »

Oh don't forget that midget, JME.

He's gotta be one of the baddest dudes that walked the earth.

535lb bench @ 187lbs and trains the likes of Rampage and his wardrobe is nothing but Tap Out gear.

Bix · « **Reply #132 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:56:00 PM »

Quote from: Parker on November 30, 2009, 03:50:25 PM

Was this before or after Mike went crazy? Seems like the man eat, sleep, and dreamed about beating Arnold. I beleive that type of obsession can lead one to crack or become dulusional or depressed. Or he may have caught Arnold outside one time. Who knows, shit happens outside of buildings when nobody is looking.

Yes if I remember correctly what Dave told me it happened outside some resturant in LA.

Skylge · « **Reply #133 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:00:35 PM »

Quote from: Milos_Sarcev on November 30, 2009, 01:51:29 PM

Look has nothing to do with being tough or being able to fight...

But, for all people that laugh about Dorian being knocked out by some fighter backstage at Dutch Grand prix 2003 - I want to let you know - it was a sucker punch - completely unnecessary and unavoidable...

It was during the usual post event back stage commotion - when all the competitors are trying to get dressed and leave in a hurry, with staff, family members, friends, fans...etc all run like a "stampede" overflowing narrow passage behind the stage on the way to lockerooms...

It just happens that I was closest person to Dorian when I heard loud punch maybe 2 feet away from me (slightly behind me) and than I noticed UFO (unidentified flying object) passing me to my right...

Yes, without any exaggeration - punch that Dick Vrij landed was one of the hardest punches I've witnessed it - sending about 275 pound Dorian in air (like it was movie trick...Similar with Brad Pitt in movie Snatch.../if you didn't see - rent it...great movie...and lots of fighting scenes...

However - Dorian simply walked into sucker punch - and I don't believe anyone would stand on their feet after that bomb - placed right on the button...

I read an article in a Dutch magazine called "Ringsports", interview with Dick Vrij, it said he was 115 kilo's (253 lbs) at his prime (he was on steroids he admitted),
Video of how he used to fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swvy4fbcjjE

Royalty · « **Reply #134 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:03:55 PM »

Quote from: Bix on November 30, 2009, 03:48:20 PM

Why would Mike lie?

To look tough?

I heard he drank his own urine.

Who knows!

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #135 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:05:54 PM »

Dutch are some of the baddest mofo's in the world...amazing fighters.

GRACIE JIU-JITSU · « **Reply #136 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:12:33 PM »

Bad ass bodybuilder such a think doesn't exist.
Bodybuilders can't fight.

Clancy · « **Reply #137 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:15:37 PM »

Some have worked as bouncers most of their life and average 5 fights a nite so there would be some tough ones but you are right most would be pussies.

Milos_Sarcev · « **Reply #138 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:38:04 PM »

Quote from: Clancy on November 30, 2009, 03:39:33 PM

Milos why don't you tell the truth you just want to fight Bob Chick and M Mustaffa you have no real interest in MMA it's just another pipe dream of yours.

I don't want to fight neither Bob or Mustafa...If I would want that - don't you think I had a million chances by now...?
I am big fan of MMA...Have every PRIDE, UFC, ELITE, BODOG DVD's and many of the CAGE RAGE, KING OF THE CAGE, MAXIMUM COMBAT, IFC CAGED COMBAT, IVC,VALE TUDO, ABU DABI...etc.
With tons of instructional videos and books ...from Bas Ruten, Eddie Bravo, Randi Coutour...not to mention everything ever published from my childhood hero - Bruce Lee...

I also had spent 18 years in formal training of various forms of martial arts and combat fighting...Trained judo with Olympic medalist Slavko Obadov, boxing with hwy boxing champion who became my bodybuilding training partner - Adam Jankovic, Karate, wrestling...and certainly "street fighting"....that was way of living back in early 70's in my part of Country...

However, after sending numerous people in the hospital (where both of my parents were employed) - my father would beat me up for beating others...So, I had to make sure that whoever ends up in the hospital doesn't say my name...or else...
Well, after scare my father played with me that guy I was fighting might not survive and acknowledgment that getting engaged into physical fighting due to whatever argument is sign of inferior intelligence ...as getting physical is very easy...yet avoiding fighting by finding and implementing intelligent solution for whatever problem or dispute might not be as exciting but certainly is much more gratifying after the fact.

I never liked hurting people and if you are engaged in fight - you have no choice but hurt...or be hurt...so long ago I have decided NOT to get engaged in physical confrontation...unless is absolutely necessary (and sometimes IT IS...but most of the time ISN'T...)

So, last thing on my mind is to fight someone for wrong reason...What would I have by beating Bob, Mustafa or anyone for that matter?

However, if I would be involved in MMA tournament to display fighting skills and "heart" - it would be completely different...I would love to take that challenge...

Fighting someone as you are mad or just emotionally affected - is right away "wrong thing" to do...
You can't bring emotions in fight and your head...and everyone knows that...

If Dana White ever considers "celebrity matches" I would love to take the challenge and I did mention Randy Coutour - not because I think he would be easy opponent for me...Quite the contrary - he is someone I deeply respect and admire...and always cheer for when he is fighting...But,, being that legendary MMA champion is MY AGE and celebrated that much more for being in that kind of shape at 46...I would like to get attention of the audience and media that we BODYBUILDERS are actually athletes for life...and many of us are in incredible shape in our 50's, 60's, and even 70's...

NaturalWonder83 · « **Reply #139 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:40:14 PM »

milos-it seems like u have good cardio endurance

unlike certian others who wheze and get out of breath walking on their junky treadmills @ 2.0 mph

calfzilla · « **Reply #140 on:** November 30, 2009, 05:32:34 PM »

Quote from: NaturalWonder83 on November 30, 2009, 04:40:14 PM

milos-it seems like u have good cardio endurance

unlike certian others who wheze and get out of breath walking on their junky treadmills @ 2.0 mph

LoL, Gene constantly brings teh funny!

Here is your reward Geneo.

Clancy · « **Reply #141 on:** November 30, 2009, 08:02:18 PM »

Milos talk is cheap no promoter in their right mind would put a hasbeen BB in the fight cage with a guy like Randi he and anyone in the fight game would pull your head off and then what???Why not work on getting back that old IFBB Pro card that seems to elude you.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #142 on:** November 30, 2009, 09:09:50 PM »

Harold Poole was a legit tough guy, back in the day. He was a the head bouncer at some big night clubs in NYC.

trustnoone · « **Reply #143 on:** December 01, 2009, 12:17:10 AM »

LOL! Milos wouldn't stand a chance against a local king of the cage middle weight amateur and he wants to fight a world class Wrestler and ex UFC champ.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #144 on:** December 01, 2009, 10:04:21 AM »

Quote from: trustnoone on December 01, 2009, 12:17:10 AM

LOL! Milos wouldn't stand a chance against a local king of the cage middle weight amateur and he wants to fight a world class Wrestler and ex UFC champ.

Beat me to it.

Team Diver · « **Reply #145 on:** December 01, 2009, 10:57:06 AM »

Quote from: rccs on November 29, 2009, 07:41:40 AM

Who is the guy that speaks and stand agains anyone or even, if necessary, could brawl someone to defend his posture or his attitude?

Well I go for Milos, I think he is the badest ass in bbing!

Namat

robins · « **Reply #146 on:** December 01, 2009, 12:27:25 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on November 30, 2009, 02:26:10 PM

rumor was that a angry promoter wanted revenge against Dorian...and paid the fighter to hurt Dorian

Yep that's the story floating around in Holland.

I saw Dick Vrij 4 weeks a go at a kickboxing gala. Still an impressive guy. Big arms, thick neck. A real badass.

Fatpanda · « **Reply #147 on:** December 01, 2009, 12:47:57 PM »

Quote from: Milos_Sarcev on November 30, 2009, 04:38:04 PM

I also had spent 18 years in formal training of various forms of martial arts and combat fighting...Trained judo with Olympic medalist Slavko Obadov, boxing with hwy boxing champion who became my bodybuilding training partner - Adam Jankovic, Karate, wrestling...and certainly "street fighting"....that was way of living back in early 70's in my part of Country...

However, after sending numerous people in the hospital (where both of my parents were employed) - my father would beat me up for beating others...So, I had to make sure that whoever ends up in the hospital doesn't say my name...or else...

I never liked hurting people and if you are engaged in fight - you have no choice but hurt...or be hurt...so long ago I have decided NOT to get engaged in physical confrontation...unless is absolutely necessary (and sometimes IT IS...but most of the time ISN'T...)

hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha

milos 'streetfighter' sarcev - the man so tough he let half the ifbb sleep with his wife and did nothing about it hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha

you couldn't make this up

Pikapi · « **Reply #148 on:** December 01, 2009, 08:26:39 PM »

Quote from: Milos_Sarcev on November 30, 2009, 04:38:04 PM

I don't want to fight neither Bob or Mustafa...If I would want that - don't you think I had a million chances by now...?
I am big fan of MMA...Have every PRIDE, UFC, ELITE, BODOG DVD's and many of the CAGE RAGE, KING OF THE CAGE, MAXIMUM COMBAT, IFC CAGED COMBAT, IVC,VALE TUDO, ABU DABI...etc.
With tons of instructional videos and books ...from Bas Ruten, Eddie Bravo, Randi Coutour...not to mention everything ever published from my childhood hero - Bruce Lee...

I also had spent 18 years in formal training of various forms of martial arts and combat fighting...Trained judo with Olympic medalist Slavko Obadov, boxing with hwy boxing champion who became my bodybuilding training partner - Adam Jankovic, Karate, wrestling...and certainly "street fighting"....that was way of living back in early 70's in my part of Country...

However, after sending numerous people in the hospital (where both of my parents were employed) - my father would beat me up for beating others...So, I had to make sure that whoever ends up in the hospital doesn't say my name...or else...
Well, after scare my father played with me that guy I was fighting might not survive and acknowledgment that getting engaged into physical fighting due to whatever argument is sign of inferior intelligence ...as getting physical is very easy...yet avoiding fighting by finding and implementing intelligent solution for whatever problem or dispute might not be as exciting but certainly is much more gratifying after the fact.

I never liked hurting people and if you are engaged in fight - you have no choice but hurt...or be hurt...so long ago I have decided NOT to get engaged in physical confrontation...unless is absolutely necessary (and sometimes IT IS...but most of the time ISN'T...)

So, last thing on my mind is to fight someone for wrong reason...What would I have by beating Bob, Mustafa or anyone for that matter?

However, if I would be involved in MMA tournament to display fighting skills and "heart" - it would be completely different...I would love to take that challenge...

Fighting someone as you are mad or just emotionally affected - is right away "wrong thing" to do...
You can't bring emotions in fight and your head...and everyone knows that...

If Dana White ever considers "celebrity matches" I would love to take the challenge and I did mention Randy Coutour - not because I think he would be easy opponent for me...Quite the contrary - he is someone I deeply respect and admire...and always cheer for when he is fighting...But,, being that legendary MMA champion is MY AGE and celebrated that much more for being in that kind of shape at 46...I would like to get attention of the audience and media that we BODYBUILDERS are actually athletes for life...and many of us are in incredible shape in our 50's, 60's, and even 70's...

What end is there to all this ridiculous fighting nonsense? Even the best fighter in the world would be sheer destroyed by a hellbent army of children or women, and I'm not even talking about pepper spray, tasers or guns! Even a small boy with a gun could blow you the head of the biggest fellow. This world is focussed on brutality (hence WWE, MMA) instead of God the ALMIGHTY, who CREATES ALL and GIVES STRENGTH! Seek you Him and His ways. If humans want to glorify brutality, why not worship wild beasts? It would be a breeze for even a weakened tiger or lion or bear to destroy the strongest unarmed man who doesn't have God on His side but you can see how ludicrously foolish apotheosizing animals would be. God made these creatures far stronger than men to show us that were made not to kill but to love. Those who are destroyed of the Lord suffer such a fate for their evil, that's all. Then, it was Goliath (9 feet 9 inches) but he was destroyed by a boy David who also smote and killed the lion and the bear, that came against him, and so were his giant children destroyed by David's grooms. I mean look at how even Bruce Lee end up. Where is he now? He was born then went so swiftly as does a flashing comet, and is now sleeping in the dust, and so will all of us soon for our lives are like a wisp of mist. Men, and the glory thereof, can be likened unto grass that withers and fades but the glorious God and lofty Lord rules, and is King, forever.

HTexan · « **Reply #149 on:** December 01, 2009, 08:43:58 PM »

Quote from: calfzilla on November 30, 2009, 05:32:34 PM

LoL, Gene constantly brings teh funny!

Here is your reward Geneo.

kai's haircut is spreading like a rash.