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4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« on: November 29, 2009, 01:51:00 PM »
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SEATTLE - Four police officers were shot dead in an ambush at a Washington state coffee house, a sheriff's official said Sunday.
The attack occurred near McChord Air Force Base in Parkland, Wash.
Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer tells Seattle's KOMO-TV that the officers were hit near 116th Street and Steele Street on the east side of the Air Force base at about 8:30 a.m. local time.
The officers were shot at Forza Coffee, the News Tribune of Tacoma reported.
Troyer told The News Tribune in Tacoma that the officers were sitting in the coffee shop with their computers when the shooter came in Sunday morning.
He says investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery.
Troyer tells the newspaper "it was just a flat out ambush."
He could not immediately say what agency the officers were from.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010385236_apusofficersshot10thldwritethru.html

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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2009, 01:54:42 PM »
geez, WTF is wrong with people?

Prayers for their families.  I hope they catch that shooter and put his ass in the gas chamber.

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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2009, 02:06:21 PM »
very sad.
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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2009, 02:09:32 PM »
there's gonna be a serious reward for that little beyotch shooter.  And his friends will turn his ass in.  And I'm sure hoping his ass is shot while resisting arrest.

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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2009, 02:10:28 PM »
very sad.

Hint hint, its not a teabagger or racist white guy who is the suspect.  

This is the second one of these recently.  Remember the one in oakland?


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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2009, 02:12:34 PM »
Hint hint, its not a teabagger or racist white guy who is the suspect.  

This is the second one of these recently.  Remember the one in oakland?


what might you be trying to suggest?
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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2009, 02:27:40 PM »
what might you be trying to suggest?


Take a wild guess. 

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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2009, 02:34:14 PM »

Take a wild guess. 
i dunno, but i sure can take a wild guess. not entirely sure how teabaggers and white racists fit into this... seems like there's some political baggage here  ;D
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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2009, 02:35:08 PM »
i dunno, but i sure can take a wild guess. not entirely sure how teabaggers and white racists fit into this... seems like there's some political baggage here  ;D

When these crazy shootings happen, the media is always hoping its another mcveigh type. 

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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2009, 02:38:12 PM »
"When these crazy shootings happen, the media is always hoping its another mcveigh type.  "


Do you believe that FOX, the leader in cable news and largest piece of the media puzzle, is hoping it's a mcveigh?

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2009, 02:39:25 PM »
"When these crazy shootings happen, the media is always hoping its another mcveigh type.  "


Do you believe that FOX, the leader in cable news and largest piece of the media puzzle, is hoping it's a mcveigh?

They all do, as with the DC sniper, Ft. Hood, the oakland shooting, and others. 

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2009, 02:44:32 PM »
They all do, as with the DC sniper, Ft. Hood, the oakland shooting, and others. 
I'm curious to know why you think this, i.e. why u get the impression they do this.

secondly, what would be the motivation to do that?

Didn't they immediately report about the suspect having an 'arabic sounding' name when the Ft. hood shootings happened?
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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2009, 02:45:09 PM »
"They all do, as with the DC sniper, Ft. Hood, the oakland shooting, and others.  "

Do you have evidence they're "hoping" it's a domestic terrorist?

Does a "crazy non-terrorist who hates cops" sell less commercials?

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2009, 02:47:37 PM »
"They all do, as with the DC sniper, Ft. Hood, the oakland shooting, and others.  "

Do you have evidence they're "hoping" it's a domestic terrorist?

Does a "crazy non-terrorist who hates cops" sell less commercials?

Dont play dumb 240.  Even you do it, like with the Census worker death.  The media wants the story of the middle aged white guy gone rogue, then talk about all the garbage about gun control racism, etc.

Dude dont play dumb, you do it yourself. 

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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2009, 06:25:41 AM »
"When these crazy shootings happen, the media is always hoping its another mcveigh type.  "


Do you believe that FOX, the leader in cable news and largest piece of the media puzzle, is hoping it's a mcveigh?

No,they know its a black racist already and an obvious Obama supporter.Pretty typical of most violent offenders in this country.

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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2009, 06:34:51 AM »
BILLY,

this piece-o-shite shooter was a convicted felon and could not vote.

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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2009, 06:42:22 AM »
BILLY,

this piece-o-shite shooter was a convicted felon and could not vote.

I'll bet Acorn took care of that. 

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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2009, 07:01:12 AM »
BILLY,

this piece-o-shite shooter was a convicted felon and could not vote.

I didnt say he voted for him.I carefully said he was an Obama supporter.Again,95% of blacks voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black,Im sure this guy supported him as well.

Are you seeing the danger of using blanket assertions when you try to conclude why people kill.Just as you did when a white guy shot people down ,claiming it was caused by Glenn Beck,we can easily use the same type of logic in explaining these killings.Is it logical to say this killing was caused by Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton or Rev. Wright or Obama?Why is it logical to conclude a killing was caused by Rush or Glenn Beck as you and those fools on MSNBC do?

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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2009, 07:43:40 AM »
Seattle, Washington (CNN) -- The suspect in the fatal shooting of four police officers kept authorities at bay early Monday -- seven hours after a massive manhunt tracked him to a house in an east Seattle neighborhood.

Authorities had been looking for Maurice Clemmons in connection with an "ambush" Sunday morning at a coffee shop near Tacoma in Pierce County. Four officers -- three males, one female -- died in the attack.

Authorities identified the victims as Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39; Officer Ronald Owens, 37; Officer Tina Griswold, 40; and Officer Greg Richards, 42. All four had been with the department since its inception, and all of them were parents.

Witnesses told police they had seen Clemmons struck in the leg by a bullet while he struggled with an officer during the attack.

Early Monday, authorities started identifying Clemmons as a suspect, rather than as someone wanted for questioning.

Police were not looking for anyone else, but had arrested several people who had "helped" Clemmons, said Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer.

The night before the shootings, Clemmons had threatened to kill police officers, but witnesses did not report those threats till after the slayings, Troyer told "Good Morning America."

About 8 p.m. Sunday, police received word that Clemmons had holed up in a home in the Leschi neighborhood.

Police blocked off streets and asked residents to stay inside with their doors locked.

Not knowing the extent of Clemmons' wounds, paramedics stood by to assess his condition once the standoff ended.

At 4:30 a.m., police were preparing to send a robot door-to-door in the cluster of residences that make up the property where Clemmons is believed to be hiding, said Seattle police spokesman Jeff Kappel.

Repeated attempts to make contact with Clemmons were unsuccessful, he said.
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Clemmons is a convicted criminal with a long rap sheet who had a 95-year prison sentence commuted in 2000 by then-Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, said Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer.

Huckabee, a Republican presidential candidate in 2008, is considering a run for president in 2012.

"Should [Clemmons] be found responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington state," Huckabee's office said in a statement Sunday night.

Clemmons, 37, of Pierce County has an "extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas, including aggravated robbery and theft," the sheriff's department said in a statement.

He also was recently charged in Pierce County in the assault of a police officer and rape of a child, according to the statement.

Troyer said Arkansan law enforcement officials had indicated that they were willing to forgo Clemmons' warrants in that state to avoid extraditing him if needed.

Clemmons was sentenced to 95 years in prison in 1989 for a host of charges, including robberies, burglaries, thefts and bringing a gun to school.

During a pretrial hearing, he hid a piece of metal in his sock, media reports at the time said. Before the start of another hearing, he grabbed a padlock off his holding cell and threw it at a court bailiff. He missed, and the lock hit his mother, who had come to bring him clothes.

Huckabee cited Clemmons' young age -- 17 at the time of his sentencing -- when he announced his decision to commute the sentence, according to newspaper articles.

Clemmons was paroled in August 2000, after serving 11 years of his sentence.

"It was not something I was pleased with at the time," said Larry Jegley, who prosecuted Clemmons for aggravated robbery and other charges in Pulaski County, Arkansas. "I would be most distressed if this is the same guy."

Huckabee's office said Clemmons' commutation was based on the recommendation of the parole board that determined that he met the conditions for early release.

"He was arrested later for parole violation and taken back to prison to serve his full term, but prosecutors dropped the charges that would have held him," the statement said.

CNN could not immediately confirm the account. But the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper reported that a year after his release, Clemmons was arrested for aggravated robbery and theft.

He was taken back to prison for parole violation. But, said the paper, he was not served with the arrest warrants for the robbery and theft charges until he left prison three years later, in 2004.

His attorney argued the charges should be dismissed because too much time had passed by then. Prosecutors dropped the charges.

Clemmons is thought to have moved to Washington that year, and for a while ran a pressure-washing and landscaping business. The license for the business expired last month, according to the secretary of state's office, with which businesses have to register.

In recent months, Clemmons has displayed increasingly erratic behavior, the Seattle Times reported. In May, he punched a sheriff's deputy in the face, the paper said.

In another incident, he had relatives undress, telling them families need to be "naked for at least five minutes on Sunday," the newspaper said, citing a sheriff's department incident report.

Clemmons also believed he was Jesus and could fly, a deputy wrote, based on conversations with family members.

After serving several months in jail on a pending charge of second-degree rape of a child, Clemmons was released on bond six days ago, according to the Seattle Times.

Sunday's shooting was the first for the Lakewood police department, which was created five years ago for the town of nearly 60,000. Until then, the Pierce County sheriff's office provided law enforcement services there.

The four officers were awaiting the start of their shift at a coffee shop in Parkland, a unincorporated community just south of Lakewood and about 10 miles from Tacoma.

The officers were in uniform and had marked patrol cars parked outside.

The shop on Steele Street is a popular hangout for law enforcement officers and is one of 22 Forza Coffee Co. locations in Washington.

"As a retired police officer, this senseless shooting hits extremely close to home to me," Brad Carpenter, chief executive officer of Forza, said in a statement on the company's Web site.

The attack occurred without warning.

"There's not going to be a big motive other than he was upset about being incarcerated and was going to go gunning after cops in general," Troyer told reporters.

The shooter walked past the officers to the counter as if to order coffee before he pulled the gun out of his coat and opened fire at 8:15 a.m., the sheriff's office said.

Two of the officers were "executed" as they sat at a table, said Troyer, the sheriff's spokesman.

Another was shot when he stood up and the fourth was shot after struggling with the gunman all the way out the door, Troyer said.

Two baristas and other customers inside the shop were unharmed. "Just the law enforcement officers were targeted," Troyer said, calling the shooting an ambush.

"What happened in there wasn't just a shooting," he told reporters. "After, we believe, some of the officers were shot, one of them managed to fight his way with the suspect -- fight his way, wrestle, fight all the way out the the doorway until he was shot and died of a gunshot wound.

Witnesses told police they had seen the suspect hit by a gunshot. Investigators checked area hospitals to determine whether the gunman sought medical treatment. A $10,000 reward was offered for information leading to an arrest.

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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2009, 08:46:23 AM »
This whole story just took a turn down BULLSHIT ALLEY and YOU.THINK.I.AM.A.IDIOT Lane. A guy released from jail after having a 95 year sentance commuted by Huckabee, then raped a child, assaulted a police, now kills four cops for no reason??? blah blah blah. I am attaching this to my list of BULLSHIT STORIES which includes:

The Ft Hood Shooter
Tiger Woods  story
Virginia Tech story
The Madoff story
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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2009, 02:44:23 PM »
I didnt say he voted for him.I carefully said he was an Obama supporter.Again,95% of blacks voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black,Im sure this guy supported him as well.

Are you seeing the danger of using blanket assertions when you try to conclude why people kill.Just as you did when a white guy shot people down ,claiming it was caused by Glenn Beck,we can easily use the same type of logic in explaining these killings.Is it logical to say this killing was caused by Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton or Rev. Wright or Obama?Why is it logical to conclude a killing was caused by Rush or Glenn Beck as you and those fools on MSNBC do?

please tell me you are shittin me with that one


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Re: 4 Policemen shot dead in ambush
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2009, 02:46:13 PM »
I'll bet Acorn took care of that. 

would you like to bet...i got access to research resources...we will see if he has a connection to acorn..and what are we betting exactly

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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2009, 02:51:41 PM »
would you like to bet...i got access to research resources...we will see if he has a connection to acorn..and what are we betting exactly

It was a joke Mal.