I love bodybuilding. But I hate bodybuilders of now.

[kyomu]

When I started to train in 1988 in Kyoto.
There are full of entusiasm and people were training really hard.
Then in 1993, I came here Barcelona and still i saw those hard trainees around me.
Drug use was so so and still hardworker was winning contests.
I was happy for surrounded by fellow bodybuilder who love bodybuilding.

Then gradualy things changed and now.
Nobody like bodybuilding.Nobody train hard. No entusiasm.
But drug use is 10 times worse than before. Even Bartender does GH now a day. People do insulin as if nothing.
Before, starting squat,they start drug.
Nobody knows who Dorian Yates is. They cant even hit 7 mandatory but already start GH.
Always talking about nothing but themselves.

Bodybuilding is great. But nobody does bbing anymore including todays competitors.

[rccs]

A agree with you! Nobody trains like Ronnie or Dorian anynore... buch of lazy guys... that is why I stopped bbing and went to powerlifting...

[Mars]

would be much more fun without the availability of drugs

[kyomu]

would be much more fun without the availability of drugs

Yes. More relaxed.
You have to search for clean drug for your safty as if you search for clean cocaine.
And stick needle to your ass. I hate injection a lot.
I dont want to feel bad when i do my hobby.

[kyomu]

A agree with you! Nobody trains like Ronnie or Dorian anynore... buch of lazy guys... that is why I stopped bbing and went to powerlifting...

I dont have any bodybuilder friend right now but Paco.
Paco hates todays bbers also. Maybe even more than me.

When i progress, everybody see me with bad eyes. Its a strange sport.

[BroadStreetBruiser]

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/02/muscle-march-being-brought-to-u-s-wiiware-may-be-weirdest-game-on-platform.aspx

[kyomu]

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/02/muscle-march-being-brought-to-u-s-wiiware-may-be-weirdest-game-on-platform.aspx

Yeah. very stupid game.
If I make a game, i will make a simulation game about participating olympia. You must battle out against Jay, Heath,Kai, Branch,,,etc.
You must do whole year planning, Training,Diet, rest...etc. And the computer character physique change. And even posing technic.
Because the people who buy this kind of game are freak.

[Tyr]

When I started to train in 1988 in Kyoto.
There are full of entusiasm and people were training really hard.
Then in 1993, I came here Barcelona and still i saw those hard trainees around me.
Drug use was so so and still hardworker was winning contests.
I was happy for surrounded by fellow bodybuilder who love bodybuilding.

Then gradualy things changed and now.
Nobody like bodybuilding.Nobody train hard. No entusiasm.
But drug use is 10 times worse than before. Even Bartender does GH now a day. People do insulin as if nothing.
Before, starting squat,they start drug.
Nobody knows who Dorian Yates is. They cant even hit 7 mandatory but already start GH.
Always talking about nothing but themselves.

Bodybuilding is great. But nobody does bbing anymore including todays competitors.

Kyoto's a nice city. People there were pretty friendly

[kyomu]

Kyoto's a nice city. People there were pretty friendly

Well there are all kinds of people. But generaly yes.
The gym where i was training was really hardcore.
We had several national level bbers and pro-wrestlers and other pro athletes.
In 1988,Lee Haney visited that gym! I had been in involved bbing only 3months or something.
I was just flipped at his size!
And i didnt imagine that i would train with even bigger bber in here Barcelona!

[rockyfortune]

When I started to train in 1988 in Kyoto.
There are full of entusiasm and people were training really hard.
Then in 1993, I came here Barcelona and still i saw those hard trainees around me.
Drug use was so so and still hardworker was winning contests.
I was happy for surrounded by fellow bodybuilder who love bodybuilding.

Then gradualy things changed and now.
Nobody like bodybuilding.Nobody train hard. No entusiasm.
But drug use is 10 times worse than before. Even Bartender does GH now a day. People do insulin as if nothing.
Before, starting squat,they start drug.
Nobody knows who Dorian Yates is. They cant even hit 7 mandatory but already start GH.
Always talking about nothing but themselves.

Bodybuilding is great. But nobody does bbing anymore including todays competitors.

So you need to ''hit 7 mandatory'' to be a bodybuilder? didn't know that...count me out then..guess i'm just a guy who lifts weights...

[kyomu]

So you need to ''hit 7 mandatory'' to be a bodybuilder? didn't know that...count me out then..guess i'm just a guy who lifts weights...

I think you are weightlifter and you are not a bodybuilder if you cant hit 7 mandatorys and so so balanced developed physique.
Its only my opinion.

[Swedish Viking]

QFT on whole thread.  To be honest, I think things are turning around, there are TONS of people complaining about the stuff you are talking about and taking the other route as a consequence.  No drugs and as close as we can come to no supps is the only way bbing will ever be an even playing field.  Even if everyone uses it's still not even because you will have people using more and less and this and that bla bla bla.  As far as I'm concerned, we don't actually know how far a drug free physique can be taken yet and we won't know until more people go that route rather than the other.

[dustin]

Pretty much all bodybuilders are douche bags. I'm surprised you're just coming to this epiphany now, kyomu.

It's sad, but true. I just muscle schmoe in secrecy...

[kyomu]

QFT on whole thread.  To be honest, I think things are turning around, there are TONS of people complaining about the stuff you are talking about and taking the other route as a consequence.  No drugs and as close as we can come to no supps is the only way bbing will ever be an even playing field.  Even if everyone uses it's still not even because you will have people using more and less and this and that bla bla bla.  As far as I'm concerned, we don't actually know how far a drug free physique can be taken yet and we won't know until more people go that route rather than the other.

Telling the truth. I dont care about heavy users IF THEY ARE HARDTRAINEES AND HUGE BODYBUILDING FANS.
But train like pussy and tons of gears..... thats now

[kyomu]

Pretty much all bodybuilders are douche bags. I'm surprised you're just coming to this epiphany now, kyomu.

It's sad, but true. I just muscle schmoe in secrecy...

Not now. I have been thinking about it since before. And Paco and I are talking about it so often.
More than 90% of bbers are douche bags.

[dustin]

Not now. I have been thinking about it since before. And Paco and I are talking about it so often.
More than 90% of bbers are douche bags.

Yup, pretty much. I don't really talk to any bodybuilders anymore. Nothing but lies and douchebaggery.

I prefer discussing shredded glutes and fanny packs over the internet.

[jesusbod]

When I started to train in 1988 in Kyoto.
There are full of entusiasm and people were training really hard.
Then in 1993, I came here Barcelona and still i saw those hard trainees around me.
Drug use was so so and still hardworker was winning contests.
I was happy for surrounded by fellow bodybuilder who love bodybuilding.

Then gradualy things changed and now.
Nobody like bodybuilding.Nobody train hard. No entusiasm.
But drug use is 10 times worse than before. Even Bartender does GH now a day. People do insulin as if nothing.
Before, starting squat,they start drug.
Nobody knows who Dorian Yates is. They cant even hit 7 mandatory but already start GH.
Always talking about nothing but themselves.

Bodybuilding is great. But nobody does bbing anymore including todays competitors.

OUTED

[rockyfortune]

It's like music. Back in the day every second person had a great hifi system to listen to, and enjoy music. These days people are happy to put on a pair of crappy earbuds hooked up to an ipod listening to mp3s of mostly garbage.

It seems like as time goes on there is increased technology that is supposed to make our lives better, but at the same time more and more rules and regulations and restrictions. What's going on?

i agree with what you are saying...especially with the ipod thing...it used to be you go buy a record, tape or cd and it was yours...to do whatever you wish--lend it out..copy it...burn it...give it to someone---now, with ipods you have DRM (i think) and while you pay for the music--it seems as if its not yours anymore---if you have an ipod..you are forced to buy music from itunes---and then you get the whole environmental bullshit thrown at you--like it's better to download music because it saves resources that otherwise would have to press cd's, print up liner notes, and make plastic cases...personally, i'd rather by a 12 dollar cd at bestbuy than dick around with itunes, corrupted music files..fucked up computers and the like...too much hassle

[Kwon]

This is nothing new Kyo, but it is very true.

Things have changed and GH and such are more common now for everyone, even those who just go out clubbing and not aiming for competition.

People are even so lazy that they just get implants that "look" like muscle.

Not so much about keeping fit but it's pure vanity these days.

[hipolito mejia]

Kyomu?

Hablas espaņol ?

[myt1]

"everyone wanna be a bodybuilder, but no one wanna lift no heavy ass weight"

[io856]

bodybuilding is steroids

name one we know by name that is natural

[Immortal_Technique]

When I started to train in 1988 in Kyoto.
There are full of entusiasm and people were training really hard.
Then in 1993, I came here Barcelona and still i saw those hard trainees around me.
Drug use was so so and still hardworker was winning contests.
I was happy for surrounded by fellow bodybuilder who love bodybuilding.

Then gradualy things changed and now.
Nobody like bodybuilding.Nobody train hard. No entusiasm.
But drug use is 10 times worse than before. Even Bartender does GH now a day. People do insulin as if nothing.
Before, starting squat,they start drug.
Nobody knows who Dorian Yates is. They cant even hit 7 mandatory but already start GH.
Always talking about nothing but themselves.

Bodybuilding is great. But nobody does bbing anymore including todays competitors.

None of the bad things you mention apply to the top guys I wouldn't say, as they can all hit poses and stuff. Sure they take loads of drugs, but so did everyone in the ironage too, Arnold famously so, just kept quiter about it.

I agree non-bodybuilders who take GH and stuff weem pretty foolish, but I'm not sure that means the serious guys suck too?

Do you think less of Paco for this reason?

[hipolito mejia]

"everyone wanna be a bodybuilder, but no one wanna lift no heavy ass weight"

"everyone wanna be a bodybuilder, but no one wanna do it drug free"

[BayGBM]

When I started to train in 1988 in Kyoto.
There are full of entusiasm and people were training really hard.
Then in 1993, I came here Barcelona and still i saw those hard trainees around me.
Drug use was so so and still hardworker was winning contests.
I was happy for surrounded by fellow bodybuilder who love bodybuilding.

Then gradualy things changed and now.
Nobody like bodybuilding.Nobody train hard. No entusiasm.
But drug use is 10 times worse than before. Even Bartender does GH now a day. People do insulin as if nothing.
Before, starting squat,they start drug.
Nobody knows who Dorian Yates is. They cant even hit 7 mandatory but already start GH.
Always talking about nothing but themselves.

Bodybuilding is great. But nobody does bbing anymore including todays competitors.

Have you shared these sentiments with Paco?