Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson

[regmac]

Shawn looks better
Dex is better.

shawn, more complete, better lines
dex, more cut, more muscle

dex would win in a show, if swahn beats dex due to better structure, then ahmad haidar or ronnie rockel should be mr o. understand retard?

This is such a heated debate.  One can go by physique (either at their beginning...their prime ...or at the end). One can go by titles. Some (like me ) go by winning THE TITLE.  So there are no winners in this.   Shawn was better overall     but.....

[Danimal77]

I am a Shawn Ray fan   but feel Dex's win makes his carrer more productive.   Sad but true. 

If all Shawn had to do in his prime was face a veinless fridge by the name of Jay Gutler, then Shawn's career would have been 10 times more "productive" than Dexters. Look at the competition Shawn had to face. Look was Dexter had to face 15 years later. Incomparable.

[Immortal_Technique]

We'd all prefer to look like Shawn, we all know he's like the 3rd greatest guy never to win a Sandow after Levrone and Wheeler, and that all those 90s guys were probably better than the guys now. But still, like Labrada Shawn was small, anyone who gets dwarfed by Dexetr is pretty small right? And these days hardness and condition is king, and The Blade has Shawn's number on that. I think on TODAY'S STAGE Dexter would win. But on yesterday's stage Shawn would win, surely that's the only reasonable and rational conclusion? An Olympia now doesn't mean what a 2nd place meant 15 years ago. I think 12 top 5 finishes in the word is a pretty cool legacy, even if Vince taylor and Darrem Charles have more silverware. Everyone knows Shawn didn't enter much apart from the O, and he left a big mark on the sport whichever way you look at it.

[Parker]

The only way to end this argument is if Shawn comes out of Retirement, gets to 215 and hard as fuck. And then go pose for pose with Dex.

[Hulkster]

Not true he was interested in the little shows and never did well in them hence why he put all his apples in one basket and failed

bullshit he was interested in the little shows.

he stated many times he was only interested in winning the O.

and he should have in 1994 and arguably 96, but your boy was sucking off the judges and Uncle Joe..

[big14]

Shawn competed around 200lbs
Dex 230lbs, both look very good.
Cut, hard and great bodyparts minus dex calves.
Shawns legs looked a bit blocky and shawn look narrow
sometimes.

Dex win due to better GH/slin combos. 30lbs is hard to overlook.

Like comparing Frank Zane and Troy Alves, Troy win.

[kyomu]

Dexs physique is better than Shawns obviously.
But, Shawn has much charisma than Dex.

[calfzilla]

Shawn was better AND he also had better competition during his career.  Look at the crappy physiques that Dex has to compete against. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

bullshit he was interested in the little shows.

he stated many times he was only interested in winning the O.

and he should have in 1994 and arguably 96, but your boy was sucking off the judges and Uncle Joe..

Oh really? because he never competed in the Night of Champions 1988 which he came in 4th , Ironman 1990 which he won and again in 1996 where he placed 3rd , Arnold Classic 1990 which he was disqualified , and again in 1991 which he won , and again in 1996 where he placed 5th

Shawn competed in more than just the Olympia MORON try doing some research before you type and you run the risk of me making you looking like a fucking idiot once again.

Shawn for a while did put all his eggs in one basket and tried to win the big one and failed there too , as far as careers are concerned Dexter's career kills his by far

13 wins plus a Sandow kicks the shit out of two pro wins it's no contest , you can argue over physiques but careers isn't open for debate , Dexter > Shawn

[regmac]

The only way to end this argument is if Shawn comes out of Retirement, gets to 215 and hard as fuck. And then go pose for pose with Dex.

Shawn's about 215 now.     I think he's clean now,  but then again he says he 's been clean since he pulled a Ben Johnson at the ASC in 1990. So once he goes back on Weider supplements he'll be a crisp 199 and place 7th at the O. Dex will get 2nd for sure.

[Mr Nobody]

 

[Parker]

Shawn's about 215 now.     I think he's clean now,  but then again he says he 's been clean since he pulled a Ben Johnson at the ASC in 1990. So once he goes back on Weider supplements he'll be a crisp 199 and place 7th at the O. Dex will get 2nd for sure.

215 and fat is diff than 215 and in shape.

[bodybuilder1234]

Shawn competed around 200lbs
Dex 230lbs, both look very good.
Cut, hard and great bodyparts minus dex calves.
Shawns legs looked a bit blocky and shawn look narrow
sometimes.

Dex win due to better GH/slin combos. 30lbs is hard to overlook.

Like comparing Frank Zane and Troy Alves, Troy win.

bahahaa what nonsense
If you believe Dexter is 230 you are fooling yourself

at the 2006 ASC Branch Warren was told by Dexter that he weighed 206lbs

[Danimal77]

We'd all prefer to look like Shawn, we all know he's like the 3rd greatest guy never to win a Sandow after Levrone and Wheeler, and that all those 90s guys were probably better than the guys now. But still, like Labrada Shawn was small, anyone who gets dwarfed by Dexetr is pretty small right? And these days hardness and condition is king, and The Blade has Shawn's number on that. I think on TODAY'S STAGE Dexter would win. But on yesterday's stage Shawn would win, surely that's the only reasonable and rational conclusion? An Olympia now doesn't mean what a 2nd place meant 15 years ago. I think 12 top 5 finishes in the word is a pretty cool legacy, even if Vince taylor and Darrem Charles have more silverware. Everyone knows Shawn didn't enter much apart from the O, and he left a big mark on the sport whichever way you look at it.

WHAT??? These days hardness and condition is king?? Are you insane? Everyone looks like a Bloated Lump of Playdo compared to guys from the 1990's.

[Danimal77]

Shawn competed around 200lbs
Dex 230lbs, both look very good.
Cut, hard and great bodyparts minus dex calves.
Shawns legs looked a bit blocky and shawn look narrow
sometimes.

Dex win due to better GH/slin combos. 30lbs is hard to overlook.

Like comparing Frank Zane and Troy Alves, Troy win.

Dex is NOT 230. That is a FUCKING JOKE..... Dex is 205-210 at 5'5". Shawn was the SAME FUCKING weight at 5'6".

[Danimal77]

Dexs physique is better than Shawns obviously.
But, Shawn has much charisma than Dex.

Obvious to you, not to the majority.

[Danimal77]

Oh really? because he never competed in the Night of Champions 1988 which he came in 4th , Ironman 1990 which he won and again in 1996 where he placed 3rd , Arnold Classic 1990 which he was disqualified , and again in 1991 which he won , and again in 1996 where he placed 5th

Shawn competed in more than just the Olympia MORON try doing some research before you type and you run the risk of me making you looking like a fucking idiot once again.

Shawn for a while did put all his eggs in one basket and tried to win the big one and failed there too , as far as careers are concerned Dexter's career kills his by far

13 wins plus a Sandow kicks the shit out of two pro wins it's no contest , you can argue over physiques but careers isn't open for debate , Dexter > Shawn

WOW, you are leaving out so many variables it's incredible. So, because Shawn CHOSE to focus only on The Mr. Olympia (I don't think we should factor in 3 other shows in a span of 15 years), you have Dexter being > Shawn??? So what if Dexter won more competitions. He entered more competitions and look who he competed against and then look at Shawn's CONSISTENTLY STELLAR Mr. Olympia competitors.

If I would have started this thread based solely on who won more shows, it would have been a no brainer as to who WON MORE SHOWS. The question is who has the better physique? Could Dex beat Shawn when they competed? NO.

Shawn murders Dexter.

[Mr Nobody]

Shawn was of a different time when smaller physiques were more popular so its hard to compare.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Shawn was of a different time when smaller physiques were more popular so its hard to compare.

not to that extent.. the 2 of them competed against each other more than once!.. your grandpa agrees with me

[NarcissisticDeity]

WOW, you are leaving out so many variables it's incredible. So, because Shawn CHOSE to focus only on The Mr. Olympia (I don't think we should factor in 3 other shows in a span of 15 years), you have Dexter being > Shawn??? So what if Dexter won more competitions. He entered more competitions and look who he competed against and then look at Shawn's CONSISTENTLY STELLAR Mr. Olympia competitors.

If I would have started this thread based solely on who won more shows, it would have been a no brainer as to who WON MORE SHOWS. The question is who has the better physique? Could Dex beat Shawn when they competed? NO.

Shawn murders Dexter.

I ONLY said as far as careers are concerned Dexter's is much better , physiques is a whole other story.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Obvious to you, not to the majority.

The majority don't judge contests

[Parker]

Dexs physique is better than Shawns obviously.
But, Shawn has much charisma than Dex.

Dex seems to be bigger, but not as polished as Shawn. I think Shawn's look at the 1998 Mr. O by far bests Dex's best to date. Plus, Shawn Ray has the best midsection in bodybuilding to date.

[Mr Nobody]

not to that extent.. the 2 of them competed against each other more than once!.. your grandpa agrees with me

Ha Ha Ha ...my opinon Dex crushes him,,,Nasser should have one the O in 97...maybe?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ha Ha Ha ...my opinon Dex crushes him,,,Nasser should have one the O in 97...maybe?

Who Nasser? they faced each other three times and Dexter beat him all three 

[Mr Nobody]

Who Nasser? they faced each other three times and Dexter beat him all three 

Why did he ND ? maybe an explanation is in order