Author Topic: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson (Read 91371 times)

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #125 on:** December 12, 2009, 06:01:54 AM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on December 11, 2009, 11:10:31 PM

also dex. placed 7th at AC 99 which nasser won!!.. at his best nasser was clearly better than dex.

Who's Mr Olympia and who isn't?

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #126 on:** December 12, 2009, 06:18:09 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on December 12, 2009, 05:44:24 AM

yup. ND's points are never valid if you use your brains and analyze things properly..

lmfao coming from you of all people hahahahahah classic

you can't even grasp the concept of I'm not saying his physique was better just his career which is a fact.

Parker · « **Reply #127 on:** December 12, 2009, 06:28:50 AM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2009, 05:59:45 AM

Small arms and a weak back---other than that he's great, except his ex wife is married to Shawn Wayans

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #128 on:** December 12, 2009, 06:39:43 AM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2009, 05:59:45 AM

Quote Milos Sarcev on Dorian Yates

" Dorian is.........The current Mr Olympia. I admire him a great deal. He's impressive , ripped and huge with a total package that can't be beat. he doesn't have the type of physique I'd want to emulate. "

Hulkster · « **Reply #129 on:** December 12, 2009, 06:44:36 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on December 12, 2009, 06:18:09 AM

lmfao coming from you of all people hahahahahah classic

you can't even grasp the concept of I'm not saying his physique was better just his career which is a fact.

your missing the point. people are trying to tell you that the fact that his physique was worse and he would not have placed even close to shawn during shawn's hayday in the 90's is exactly why is career was WORSE not better..

winning titles when there was no competition is not better than placing near the top with intense competition..competition that would have kept dexter from even making the posedown.
that is a worse career. not a better one.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #130 on:** December 12, 2009, 06:57:34 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on December 12, 2009, 06:44:36 AM

your missing the point. people are trying to tell you that the fact that his physique was worse and he would not have placed even close to shawn during shawn's hayday in the 90's is exactly why is career was WORSE not better..

winning titles when there was no competition is not better than placing near the top with intense competition..competition that would have kept dexter from even making the posedown.
that is a worse career. not a better one.

Shawn and Dexter are a LOT closer than you think and compared very well to each other regardless of years more of your ignorance at play

the exact same can be said for Ronnie Coleman who languished in the early to mid 90s and only started to win after all those guys started to decline

Shawn would match up very well with Dexter and beat him in some poses and loses in others , your pure ignorance prevents you from once again being objective.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #131 on:** December 12, 2009, 07:24:18 AM »

Quote from: Parker on December 12, 2009, 06:28:50 AM

Small arms and a weak back---other than that he's great, except his ex wife is married to Shawn Wayans

Hulkster · « **Reply #132 on:** December 12, 2009, 07:54:42 AM »

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the exact same can be said for Ronnie Coleman who languished in the early to mid 90s and only started to win after all those guys started to decline

are you a complete idiot?

I think this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read on getbig, even from you. congrats $:-\$ .

ronnie didn't win because everyone left or got old.

he won because he was 100x better when he was winning Mr O's than he was when he was getting beaten by everyone in the 90's:

Hulkster · « **Reply #133 on:** December 12, 2009, 08:02:33 AM »

my ass they are close

shawn smokes him from every angle.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #134 on:** December 12, 2009, 08:07:49 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on December 12, 2009, 07:54:42 AM

are you a complete idiot?

I think this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read on getbig, even from you. congrats $:-\$ .

ronnie didn't win because everyone left or got old.

he won because he was 100x better when he was winning Mr O's than he was when he was getting beaten by everyone in the 90's:

Seriously many , many people have already said on many occasions Ronnie only started beating guys after their primes like Flex ( 93 ) Kevin ( 92/95 ) Shawn ( 94 ) all guys Dorian dominated and at the end of their careers Ronnie started beating them lol

Who did Ronnie face? past primes guys who were all much better in the 90s and Jay & Dex? hahahahaha who both beat him after he started winning

everyone beat Ronnie in the 90s and the late 00s lmao

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #135 on:** December 12, 2009, 08:08:57 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on December 12, 2009, 08:02:33 AM

my ass they are close

shawn smokes him from every angle.

Very typical Hulkster

Blanket statement NO proof what so ever two carefully selected pictures with the old tried and true " see "

hahahahahahaha your stupidity is very predictable

nolotil · « **Reply #136 on:** December 14, 2009, 05:37:00 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on December 12, 2009, 07:54:42 AM

are you a complete idiot?

I think this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read on getbig, even from you. congrats $:-\$ .

ronnie didn't win because everyone left or got old.

he won because he was 100x better when he was winning Mr O's than he was when he was getting beaten by everyone in the 90's:

in the middle pic cormier looks better than ronnie. ronnie always had a bit of a weird ab shape

MCWAY · « **Reply #137 on:** December 14, 2009, 07:59:16 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on December 12, 2009, 08:07:49 AM

Seriously many , many people have already said on many occasions Ronnie only started beating guys after their primes like Flex ( 93 ) Kevin ( 92/95 ) Shawn ( 94 ) all guys Dorian dominated and at the end of their careers Ronnie started beating them lol

Who did Ronnie face? past primes guys who were all much better in the 90s and Jay & Dex? hahahahaha who both beat him after he started winning

everyone beat Ronnie in the 90s and the late 00s lmao

Past their prime? I beg to differ!!

Flex Wheeler won two Arnold Classic titles, after Ronnie first defeated him in 1996.

Kevin Levrone placed 2nd at the Olympia twice in the 2000s, hardly an indicator of someone being past their prime.

Flex's prime was NOT in 1993. That was in 1998, the year Ronnie BEAT HIM for the Olympia.

MORTALCOIL · « **Reply #138 on:** December 14, 2009, 09:05:38 AM »

Quote from: MCWAY on December 14, 2009, 07:59:16 AM

Past their prime? I beg to differ!!

Flex Wheeler won two Arnold Classic titles, after Ronnie first defeated him in 1996.

Kevin Levrone placed 2nd at the Olympia twice in the 2000s, hardly an indicator of someone being past their prime.

Flex's prime was NOT in 1993. That was in 1998, the year Ronnie BEAT HIM for the Olympia.

I beg to differ also. Levrone's placings in 2000 and 2002 just show how less competitive the field was. He still had a great upper body but no wheels. No comparison with the '93 or the '95 Levrone. Flex was much better in '93 than in '98 (the guy was already an oil bag by then and he wasn't suited to carry that much mass). Ronnie still faced tough competition in '98 and '99 (Cormier showed up great in '99 and should have placed 2nd). From 2000 and on, line-ups have just been weak. Any bodybuilder who placed top 6 at the 'O from '92 to '98 included wouldbe Mr O nowadays.

Bix · « **Reply #139 on:** December 14, 2009, 10:32:26 AM »

I'd pick FrogMan if he had calfs.

Danimal77 · « **Reply #140 on:** December 14, 2009, 10:54:58 AM »

Quote from: MORTALCOIL on December 14, 2009, 09:05:38 AM

I beg to differ also. Levrone's placings in 2000 and 2002 just show how less competitive the field was. He still had a great upper body but no wheels. No comparison with the '93 or the '95 Levrone. Flex was much better in '93 than in '98 (the guy was already an oil bag by then and he wasn't suited to carry that much mass). Ronnie still faced tough competition in '98 and '99 (Cormier showed up great in '99 and should have placed 2nd). From 2000 and on, line-ups have just been weak. Any bodybuilder who placed top 6 at the 'O from '92 to '98 included wouldbe Mr O nowadays.

Great post Newbie!!! +1

Parker · « **Reply #141 on:** December 14, 2009, 11:23:47 AM »

Shawn Ray vs his protege, Richard Jones, and Richard Longwith.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #142 on:** December 14, 2009, 01:37:35 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on December 14, 2009, 07:59:16 AM

Past their prime? I beg to differ!!

Flex Wheeler won two Arnold Classic titles, after Ronnie first defeated him in 1996.

Kevin Levrone placed 2nd at the Olympia twice in the 2000s, hardly an indicator of someone being past their prime.

Flex's prime was NOT in 1993. That was in 1998, the year Ronnie BEAT HIM for the Olympia.

Don't beg it's unbecoming

Ronnie only beat Flex when Flex was off ( not his fault ) but that's the case even in 96 but when Ronnie hit his stride that wasn't the case anymore

Levrone was past his prime showings which were 1992/1995 his physique was leaps & bounds better than it was in 2000/2002 in fact if he looked like he did in 1995 he probably would have beat Ronnie in 2002

Flex's prime is 1993 BY FAR he never looked as good as he did in 1993 Arnold , Ironman , and Olympia , 98 Olympia was hardly Wheeler's best in fact he looked better at the Arnold than he did at the Olympia and in fact if he looked like he did at that years Arnold he might have beat Ronnie

just because guys continued to place high only means it was relative to the competition in fact all the guys looked better in the early 90s , Flex , Kevin , Shawn , Dillett

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #143 on:** December 14, 2009, 01:39:37 PM »

Quote from: MORTALCOIL on December 14, 2009, 09:05:38 AM

I beg to differ also. Levrone's placings in 2000 and 2002 just show how less competitive the field was. He still had a great upper body but no wheels. No comparison with the '93 or the '95 Levrone. Flex was much better in '93 than in '98 (the guy was already an oil bag by then and he wasn't suited to carry that much mass). Ronnie still faced tough competition in '98 and '99 (Cormier showed up great in '99 and should have placed 2nd). From 2000 and on, line-ups have just been weak. Any bodybuilder who placed top 6 at the 'O from '92 to '98 included wouldbe Mr O nowadays.

I couldn't agree more. well said.

Hulkster · « **Reply #144 on:** December 14, 2009, 02:08:57 PM »

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just because guys continued to place high only means it was relative to the competition in fact all the guys looked better in the early 90s , Flex , Kevin , Shawn , Dillett

and Ronnie as he looked in 99 or at the 2001 AC would have beaten them all in that shape anyway, including dorian.

so whats your point?

Hulkster · « **Reply #145 on:** December 14, 2009, 02:12:31 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on December 12, 2009, 08:08:57 AM

Very typical Hulkster

Blanket statement NO proof what so ever two carefully selected pictures with the old tried and true " see "

hahahahahahaha your stupidity is very predictable

I love how ND refers to random pics as carefully selected..LOL

what he fails to realize is that all the shots of Ronnie at his peak show the same thing: that he was better than anyone else to date.

so no, none of them are carefully selected. sorry.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #146 on:** December 14, 2009, 02:29:51 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on December 14, 2009, 02:08:57 PM

and Ronnie as he looked in 99 or at the 2001 AC would have beaten them all in that shape anyway, including dorian.

so whats your point?

Yeah sure he would

Ronnie HIMSELF said his best Olympia showing was 1998 and he just barely beat Flex by 3 points among the closest Olympias ever , Flex 1993 who was eons better than he was in 98 got blown out the water by Yates in a contest where Dorian was so far ahead of everyone he didn't even need to be included in the muscularity round LMFAO

Ronnie knows he couldn't touch Yates only his stupid fans can't admit the truth

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #147 on:** December 14, 2009, 02:31:36 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on December 14, 2009, 02:12:31 PM

I love how ND refers to random pics as carefully selected..LOL

what he fails to realize is that all the shots of Ronnie at his peak show the same thing: that he was better than anyone else to date.

so no, none of them are carefully selected. sorry.

Like I'm the only one who points you hand pick your flexed shots of Ronnie and unflexed of Dorian , your ball-licking his legendary .

Parker · « **Reply #148 on:** December 14, 2009, 02:34:38 PM »

Remember, this is Shawn v Dexter

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #149 on:** December 14, 2009, 02:56:55 PM »

Quote from: Parker on December 14, 2009, 02:34:38 PM

Remember, this is Shawn v Dexter

Any thread Hulkster types in he weasels Dorian into it and Ronnie