Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson

[Danimal77]

Don't beg it's unbecoming  

Ronnie only beat Flex when Flex was off ( not his fault ) but that's the case even in 96 but when Ronnie hit his stride that wasn't the case anymore

Levrone was past his prime showings which were 1992/1995 his physique was leaps & bounds better than it was in 2000/2002 in fact if he looked like he did in 1995 he probably would have beat Ronnie in 2002

Flex's prime is 1993 BY FAR he never looked as good as he did in 1993 Arnold , Ironman , and Olympia , 98 Olympia was hardly Wheeler's best in fact he looked better at the Arnold than he did at the Olympia and in fact if he looked like he did at that years Arnold he might have beat Ronnie

just because guys continued to place high only means it was relative to the competition in fact all the guys looked better in the early 90s , Flex , Kevin , Shawn , Dillett

I think a 1998 Kevin Levrone was the best he ever was behind his 1992 showing. He combined a TON of SIZE with cuts, symmetry and legs. I still say that it was a race between Kevin, Cormier and Coleman for the win in 1998.

[Hulkster]

Any thread ND types in he weasels Dorian into it and Ronnie

fixed.

[NarcissisticDeity]

fixed.

You're the idiot who typed Dorian in this thread not I 

how does it feel being GetBig's punching bag?

[regmac]

Whats next   ?  Flair vs Hogon?

[Fatpanda]

dexter all the way 

he's bigger, has a more complete physique - calves apart.

shawn has no back width, smaller arms, and his conditioning was not as good from 96 on. dex is always ripped.

[NarcissisticDeity]

dexter all the way 

he's bigger, has a more complete physique - calves apart.

shawn has no back width, smaller arms, and his conditioning was not as good from 96 on. dex is always ripped.

You bring up a lot of great points which would swing a contest in Dexter's favor , they're probably the same height and Dex is bigger and looks bigger , he's also wider , wider clavicles and back and conditioning Dex isn't a slouch , great points.

[Wiggs]

You bring up a lot of great points which would swing a contest in Dexter's favor , they're probably the same height and Dex is bigger and looks bigger , he's also wider , wider clavicles and back and conditioning Dex isn't a slouch , great points.

I've seen them both over the years...Dexter is is clearly wider.  Both are the same height (Shawna isn't 5'7)
Shawn has the prettier of the two physques...Like I said. I like Shawns' physique better but Dex's wins shows.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I've seen them both over the years...Dexter is is clearly wider.  Both are the same height (Shawna isn't 5'7)
Shawn has the prettier of the two physques...Like I said. I like Shawns' physique better but Dex's wins shows.

Great post. It seems to be the problem with a lot of guys they can't separate what they like from what wins and there if a difference.

[Danimal77]

Whats next   ?  Flair vs Hogon?

Hogon? 

[regmac]

Hogon? 

Hogan!!!!!    You know   the prayers, the vitamins   the training?

[bodybuilder1234]

Dexter and Phil Heath both beat Shawn Ray, perhaps even Levrone

[Danimal77]

Hogan!!!!!    You know   the prayers, the vitamins   the training?

Dude, you misspelled Hogan in your original post. You clearly didn't pick up on my sarcasm. 

[FreedomFighter]

dex _ he made it to the top

[calfzilla]

Dexter and Phil Heath both beat Shawn Ray, perhaps even Levrone

I'll just assume you are joking in order to avoid a meltdown.  

[MORTALCOIL]

Dexter and Phil Heath both beat Shawn Ray, perhaps even Levrone

Dex is underrated even with a Sandow. Very little flaws except for his calves. But in this day and age, he suffers against "regular" mass monsters. Ray had rounder muscles, good symmetry also and fantastic lines overall. They're close even though Ray's physique was more pleasing to the eye. But you must be joking when you quote Heath as a contender: width is pitiful, weak chest with arms so big that it looks even smaller than it actually is, obliques way too big. Overhyped.

[MCWAY]

Congradulations on his O victory. But Shawn Battled Haney, Yates, Levrone, Flex, Nasser, Cormier, and then King Ron. Dexter couldn't go against these guys.

Dexter DID go against these guys and he beat them all, at some point in his career (particularly at the Olympia), except for Yates and Haney, who retired before Dexter even turned pro.

Jackson defeated them at the following Olympias:

Levrone: 2003 Olympia
Wheeler: 2002 Olympia
El Sonbaty: 2001, 2002 Olympia
Cormier: 2004 Olympia
Coleman: 2007 Olympia

[regmac]

Dude, you misspelled Hogan in your original post. You clearly didn't pick up on my sarcasm. 

I saw I misspelled it    I just didn't care  you know who I meant.   

[bodybuilder1234]

I'll just assume you are joking in order to avoid a meltdown.  

nope, why would i be joking?

Phil in my mind is better than Dexter because he beat him on saturday at the 09 Olympia (Phil got sick in the prejudging).
So therefore if Dex is better than Shawn so is Phil

[Fatpanda]

Congradulations on his O victory. But Shawn Battled Haney, Yates, Levrone, Flex, Nasser, Cormier, and then King Ron. Dexter couldn't go against these guys.

at dexters peak i.e. the last 2 years - i believe he would have beat haney, levrone, cormier, and flex at their peaks.

[Mr Nobody]

at dexters peak i.e. the last 2 years - i believe he would have beat haney, levrone, cormier, and flex at their peaks.

You are clearing having vision problems panda

[Fatpanda]

You are clearing having vision problems panda

i know its controversial, but i really believe if dexter was 3-4" taller he would be classed as the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived so far.

i also think its wrong to judge bodybuilders height, as it gives some tall guys an advantage by portraying an optical illusion of more size.

take dex for example, i'm sure pound for pound he is up there with the mass monsters, yet because he's short he looks smaller, while wolf is classed as a monster due to height.

[Mr Nobody]

i know its controversial, but i really believe if dexter was 3-4" taller he would be classed as the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived so far.

i also think its wrong to judge bodybuilders height, as it gives some tall guys an advantage by portraying an optical illusion of more size.

take dex for example, i'm sure pound for pound he is up there with the mass monsters, yet because he's short he looks smaller, while wolf is classed as a monster due to height.

Nice, so are you saying a taller BB with same proportions should beat a shorter one same proportions?

[calfzilla]

nope, why would i be joking?

Phil in my mind is better than Dexter because he beat him on saturday at the 09 Olympia (Phil got sick in the prejudging).
So therefore if Dex is better than Shawn so is Phil

Phil may be better than Dexter, but there is no way Dexter is better than Shawn. 

[regmac]

Phil may be better than Dexter, but there is no way Dexter is better than Shawn. 

Of those 3 guyts, ony one (1) has won the most important bodybuilding title.   I don't think Phil will ever....ever ever ever ever ever win it.

[calfzilla]

Of those 3 guyts, ony one (1) has won the most important bodybuilding title.   I don't think Phil will ever....ever ever ever ever ever win it.

I am aware of that but look at the quality physiques Shawn had to compete against, and look at what pieces of bloated, GF gut Palumboism shit Dex went up against.