Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson

[wes]

[Hulkster]

its amazing in looking at these pics how much better shawn's entire lower body is. his quads, hams calves are all significantly better than dex's

[NarcissisticDeity]

its amazing in looking at these pics how much better shawn's entire lower body is. his quads, hams calves are all significantly better than dex's

His calves are , hams and quads not really

[Hulkster]

LOL

more retarded baseless ND opinions..

you obviously have never compared their quads before..

in his mr. O. winning shape, dexter had quads that were far far far below shawn's:

open your eyes:

[Hulkster]

its not even close:

[Earl1972]

And whose problem is that?

The simple fact is Jackson beat many of the same guys that Ray faced and he beat them when they were still viable competitors at the Olympia level.

Plus, he's beaten guys MUCH LARGER than himself, namely Schlierkamp, Freeman, and Wolf.

And, of course, he pulled off the upset in 2008, getting past Cutler for the Olympia title.

my point is he beat a subpar Mr. Levrone

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[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL

more retarded baseless ND opinions..

you obviously have never compared their quads before..

in his mr. O. winning shape, dexter had quads that were far far far below shawn's:

open your eyes:

Same ole Hulkster no content lots of attacks and carefully selected pictures 

Troll on Hulkster it's all you have

[NarcissisticDeity]

my point is he beat a subpar Mr. Levrone

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He did Kevin on point beats Dexter

[Hulkster]

Same ole Hulkster no content lots of attacks and carefully selected pictures 

Troll on Hulkster it's all you have

I love how you say direct excellent comparisons of the two of them is 'no content'...

typical ND..ignores all the content because it destroys his bullshit..

 

[Earl1972]

He did Kevin on point beats Dexter

 

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[Hulkster]

and another thing, as with dorian/ronnie shots, none of my pics are 'carefully selected' to show who I think his better is in fact better.

but they are carefully selected in terms of distance from stage, consistent pose etc

they are the best possible comparisons you can get.

and because they expose your bullshit, you hate them.

tough shit. deal with it.

shawn had a much better physique than dexter. and all the comparisons show it.

deal with that too.

[NarcissisticDeity]

and another thing, as with dorian/ronnie shots, none of my pics are 'carefully selected' to show who I think his better is in fact better.

but they are carefully selected in terms of distance from stage, particular pose etc

they are the best possible comparisons you can get.

and because they expose your bullshit, you hate them.

tough shit. deal with it.

shawn had a much better physique than dexter.

deal with that too.

meltdown 

[NarcissisticDeity]

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He did beat a subpar Levrone and he couldn't touch Kevin at his best

[Earl1972]

He did beat a subpar Levrone and he couldn't touch Kevin at his best

DAMN RIGHT

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[Pecs]

shawn had a better package....and is better loooking... no homo

[Fatpanda]

shawn had a much better physique than dexter. and all the comparisons show it.

deal with that too.

not the comparisons i have witnessed.

yes shawn has bigger quads also. so thats quads and calves - pity about everything else (that you seem to be ignoring)

[Figo]

Dex was mr o, Shawn wasnt, just goes to show how bbing has regressed.

[Hulkster]

Dex was mr o, Shawn wasnt, just goes to show how bbing has regressed.

yup. shawn was better yet could not take the title..as I said and many others have said, dex won the title because of the regression of the sport.

not because he was better than flex, shawn etc at their bests..

[disco_stu]

lol i love how the selective pics for comparison come out in defence of shawn.

and rather than debate blocky legs- its about the leg size.

having a huge quad doesnt make a balances physique.

shawn flattens out in all his poses. Dex is a cartoon.

Dex is better than shawn ever was..period.

Shawn beats Dex in one pose, and its conditioning that gets him there..the rear DB. And we've seen loads of pics to make that point...well thats great.

But ND posted the series of pics that smash Ray out of the park.

And Hulkster you even proved yourself wrong by showing Dex and Ray relaxed. Dex kills Ray. Again, Ray goes all flat like a pancake with noi dramatic taper and is very heavy on the bottom half.

Dex looks like a statue of perfection.

I cant help you if you cant see it. The judges saw it, so im ok with being accused as not knowing anything despite following this sport for 25 years.

Regarding the competition comparison- this is moot also as you could then extend that argument to Haney's reign and you could bag Gaspari, and then go right back to the late 70s and early 80s Mr.Os. Heck, why not go further back and acuse Arnold of competing against soft competition and lack of numbers?

The 2000s was the era of massive monsters. Never since Dickerson of the Mr.O has a short man taken the overall. And Dex did it. Against guys who massively outweighed him also.

On top of that Dex has consistently placed better than Ray did throughout his career, and if you look through the competitors several still compete from Ray's era (who competed against Dex), and Many now have Ray's contemporaries as scalps.

Aesthetically the 90s were better, but the judging criteria shifted and heralded mass.

That makes Dex's win even more significant.

The real comparison is Labrada..not Ray. Labrada beat Ray throughout his career yet where's the comparison to Dex?..Labrada had fewer flaws, better presentation, and placed higher than Ray virtually every time they competed.

I grew up watching Ray and never had him better than 3rd or 4th- even 5th at the O's. He looked good, but not as good as your shit filled eyes see it.

Levrone was much better, and so was Taylor. Dex is better than both those guys also.

[Hulkster]

LOL

I cant help you if you cant see it. The judges saw it, so im ok with being accused as not knowing anything despite following this sport for 25 years.

no, the judges saw dex as the best onstage at the time.

however, that best was far below the standard of past years..and below that of a peak shawn ray.

that is something that everyone seems to be able to see (notice how everyone is speaking of how the sport has gone downhill) but you seem to be too delusional to accept..

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol i love how the selective pics for comparison come out in defence of shawn.

and rather than debate blocky legs- its about the leg size.

having a huge quad doesnt make a balances physique.

shawn flattens out in all his poses. Dex is a cartoon.

Dex is better than shawn ever was..period.

Shawn beats Dex in one pose, and its conditioning that gets him there..the rear DB. And we've seen loads of pics to make that point...well thats great.

But ND posted the series of pics that smash Ray out of the park.

And Hulkster you even proved yourself wrong by showing Dex and Ray relaxed. Dex kills Ray. Again, Ray goes all flat like a pancake with noi dramatic taper and is very heavy on the bottom half.

Dex looks like a statue of perfection.

I cant help you if you cant see it. The judges saw it, so im ok with being accused as not knowing anything despite following this sport for 25 years.

Regarding the competition comparison- this is moot also as you could then extend that argument to Haney's reign and you could bag Gaspari, and then go right back to the late 70s and early 80s Mr.Os. Heck, why not go further back and acuse Arnold of competing against soft competition and lack of numbers?

The 2000s was the era of massive monsters. Never since Dickerson of the Mr.O has a short man taken the overall. And Dex did it. Against guys who massively outweighed him also.

On top of that Dex has consistently placed better than Ray did throughout his career, and if you look through the competitors several still compete from Ray's era (who competed against Dex), and Many now have Ray's contemporaries as scalps.

Aesthetically the 90s were better, but the judging criteria shifted and heralded mass.

That makes Dex's win even more significant.

The real comparison is Labrada..not Ray. Labrada beat Ray throughout his career yet where's the comparison to Dex?..Labrada had fewer flaws, better presentation, and placed higher than Ray virtually every time they competed.

I grew up watching Ray and never had him better than 3rd or 4th- even 5th at the O's. He looked good, but not as good as your shit filled eyes see it.

Levrone was much better, and so was Taylor. Dex is better than both those guys also.

Great post ! spot-on about Labrada who was much better than Ray
typical Hulkster backfire and then gets ownedas usual with more experienced and knowledgeable fans.

[Hulkster]

I love how dex is refered to as a 'statue of perfection' when he has high lats, no quad sweep, no calves, a turtle gut and a waist that forms an inverted triangle with his torso..LOL

 

he is anything but..seriously.

he has the most fucked up taper in bb...superhigh lats, long long toro, and hips that are wider at the base than at where his lats insert..

the exact OPPOSITE of what you want..

lose the delusion and come to grips with reality.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I love how dex is refered to as a 'statue of perfection' when he has high lats, no quad sweep, no calves, a turtle gut and a waist that forms an inverted triangle with his torso..LOL

 

he is anything but..seriously.

he has the most fucked up taper in bb...superhigh lats, long long toro, and hips that are wider at the base than at where his lats insert..

the exact OPPOSITE of what you want..

lose the delusion and come to grips with reality.

Shawn has flaws as well , short legs , long torso , narrow ass clavicles , I mean I could go on but it's a moot point , Dexter has more mass , he's wider and has equal or better conditioning , balance is a toss up Dexter wins because of this

[Hulkster]

?..Labrada had fewer flaws, better presentation, and placed higher than Ray virtually every time they competed.

wrong. because Ray improved by a lot post 92 onwards and from then on he beat Labrada every time.

93 is a great example. both in top shape. Shawn beats Labrada..

but back in 90, before shawn had peaked, Labrada won..

Labrada simply beat shawn before shawn had really hit his stride, much the same way as everyone beat Ronnie before he hit his stride.

but compare peak shawn and peak Labrada, and its Shawn every time, just as 93 showed quite clearly..

then gets ownedas usual with more experienced and knowledgeable fans

more experienced and knowledgable fan my ass.  


he is as delusional as you are

[Royal Lion]

I love how dex is refered to as a 'statue of perfection' when he has high lats, no quad sweep, no calves, a turtle gut and a waist that forms an inverted triangle with his torso..LOL

 

he is anything but..seriously.

he has the most fucked up taper in bb...superhigh lats, long long toro, and hips that are wider at the base than at where his lats insert..

the exact OPPOSITE of what you want..

lose the delusion and come to grips with reality.

I agree that his lats are a little high; however, the rest of your statement consists of your typical exagerrations that have no basis whatsoever.  For fucksake, it would be close between Dorian and Ronnie, and it would also be close between Dexter and S.Ray.  

I don't see how winning a Mr.O (and being competitive in several more) and winning several Arnold's can be the "exact opposite" of what a bodybuilder wants.