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Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« on: December 11, 2009, 06:57:35 PM »
I never saw this, it aired in 2001.  From Fox lol...  I guess belief in the theory shot up after this aired.










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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2009, 07:07:51 PM »
They also did a report on israeli spy/9-11 conspiracy








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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2009, 07:09:15 PM »
Playing to their audience.... :D

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2009, 07:27:58 PM »
They also did a report on israeli spy/9-11 conspiracy

i saw those.  and believe a good portion of it.  Israel has gotten away with this stuff for a long time.  when they do catch their spies, they're always released after a short detainment.  only county that gets a free pass to spy on America.

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2009, 07:48:03 PM »
i saw those.  and believe a good portion of it.  Israel has gotten away with this stuff for a long time.  when they do catch their spies, they're always released after a short detainment.  only county that gets a free pass to spy on America.
I didn't watch any of them.  But Israelis spys getting released like that doesn't surprise me.

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2009, 08:20:43 PM »
I didn't watch any of them.  But Israelis spys getting released like that doesn't surprise me.
i'm not surpised either.  it's disapointing, but not shocking.

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2009, 08:45:51 PM »
Myth busters did a program on the Moon landing hoax myth, they busted it
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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2009, 08:48:57 PM »
Myth busters did a program on the Moon landing hoax myth, they busted it

Some in here, are far smarter and knowing than them or the main stream scientific community. 

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2009, 08:53:39 PM »
Some in here, are far smarter and knowing than them or the main stream scientific community. 

There are those (cough samson coungh) that have never met a conspiracy they didn't like
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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2009, 08:54:52 PM »
There are those (cough samson coungh) that have never met a conspiracy they didn't like

so basically.....there are those (cough basement boy cough) who are CT Sluts?

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2009, 08:58:27 PM »
so basically.....there are those (cough basement boy cough) who are CT Sluts?

Well you will have to tell me who basement boy is, before I can confirm.
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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2009, 10:02:44 PM »
Well you will have to tell me who basement boy is, before I can confirm.

Cough, the same one you talked about, cough.

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2009, 12:12:04 AM »
it's funny when people will believe some CTs but mock others who subscribe to others.

I believe we orbited the moon, but I don't think we landed and walked.  Just too many logistics, radiation and temperature, and a lot of issues with the pics and video that don't make sense.  Plus that moon rock that got tested ended up being wood, right?  ;)

I'm called a "moonbot" and a nut by people who believe Obama is a kanyan whose job is to bring down the american empire and crash the dollar.  Go figure. 

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2009, 01:03:12 AM »
it's funny when people will believe some CTs but mock others who subscribe to others.

I believe we orbited the moon, but I don't think we landed and walked.  Just too many logistics, radiation and temperature, and a lot of issues with the pics and video that don't make sense.  Plus that moon rock that got tested ended up being wood, right?  ;)

I'm called a "moonbot" and a nut by people who believe Obama is a kanyan whose job is to bring down the american empire and crash the dollar.  Go figure. 
I treat this conspiracy like I do all others.  I looked at as much info from both sides as I could and tried to see if there was anything to be found proving it one way or the other.  Doing this through the years leaves me believing in some conspiracies and feeling that other conspiracies are just not true.  That doesn't make me a hypocrite.  It just means I believe in some and in some I don't.  What kind of person would I be if I were only willing to argue the conspiracies I believe in?

Not one person here could explain or was even willing to try to explain what I researched myself and posted on here:  Maybe you would care to give it a shot 240?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=301074.0

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2009, 08:42:52 AM »
it's funny when people will believe some CTs but mock others who subscribe to others.

I believe we orbited the moon, but I don't think we landed and walked.  Just too many logistics, radiation and temperature, and a lot of issues with the pics and video that don't make sense.  Plus that moon rock that got tested ended up being wood, right?  ;)

I'm called a "moonbot" and a nut by people who believe Obama is a kanyan whose job is to bring down the american empire and crash the dollar.  Go figure. 

I think some conspiracy theories are plausible while others are just down right stupid.  I never knew you were a moonbot 240.  :D

10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
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http://www.urban75.org/info/conspiraloons.html

1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.

2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.

3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.

4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.

5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.

6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.

7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.

8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.

9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's “happened before”.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.

10. It's always a conspiracy. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.

A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2009, 09:08:33 AM »
Oz,

Do you believe in life beyond earth, and do you believe our govt is keeping it secret?

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2009, 09:13:07 AM »
Oz,

Do you believe in life beyond earth, and do you believe our govt is keeping it secret?

I believe that if there is intelligent life beyond Earth and we have been contacted that the government COULD or WOULD keep it from us.   Now have they?  I don't know.

I do believe there is life on other planets, quite possibly as close as Europa. 

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2009, 09:24:05 AM »
I believe that if there is intelligent life beyond Earth and we have been contacted that the government COULD or WOULD keep it from us.   Now have they?  I don't know.

I do believe there is life on other planets, quite possibly as close as Europa. 

No. 5 is why i have yet to see on 9/11 CT that makes any sense at all. 

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2009, 09:27:10 AM »
No. 5 is why i have yet to see on 9/11 CT that makes any sense at all.  

Me too.  When you  look at the whole picture, there are gaping holes that make no sense in the CT.  That's one of the reasons i put that CT in the non-plausible category.

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2009, 09:30:39 AM »
you guys are so black and white.  maybe bush and condi just wiped their ass with the 911 memo because it would allow the new pearl harbor that the bush admin had written about in PNAC.

33, you had no clue what pnac even was, so you're still 3rd grade on this 911 stuff man.

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2009, 09:41:51 AM »
you guys are so black and white.  maybe bush and condi just wiped their ass with the 911 memo because it would allow the new pearl harbor that the bush admin had written about in PNAC.

33, you had no clue what pnac even was, so you're still 3rd grade on this 911 stuff man.

240 - how many people saw the memo before it got to Bush? 

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2009, 09:47:16 AM »
240 - how many people saw the memo before it got to Bush? 

Another thing 240 - how many times did I ask you for the best evidence of a 9/11 CT? 

Nothing has been put forward by you. 

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2009, 09:48:29 AM »
"240 - how many people saw the memo before it got to Bush?  "

Doesn't matter - chain of command.  But you knew that.

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2009, 09:49:58 AM »
"Another thing 240 - how many times did I ask you for the best evidence of a 9/11 CT? 
Nothing has been put forward by you.  "

Quick-
What is your best evidence that the laws of physics exist?  Explain algebra on this bus ride.  Also, I'll need you to detail the big bang theory while we're standing at the urinal.

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Re: Fox promoted the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory.
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2009, 09:50:05 AM »
"240 - how many people saw the memo before it got to Bush?  "

Doesn't matter - chain of command.  But you knew that.

And if they thought a crime was being allowed to be committed, you dont think someone would have said something by now?  

Are they in on it too?