MUSTAFA GIVES THE FINAL PROOF - DRUGS ARE JUST THE FINISHING TOUCH!

[Sherief Shalaby]

yeah i get what he's saying but the whole "can't turn a poddle into a pitbull" thing just doesn't really make as much sense as bob chick wished it did.

lol.. as you know nasser always likes to give examples and put some jokes in his interviews or articles..

[Nasty Nate]

lol.. as you know nasser always likes to give examples and put some jokes in his interviews or articles..

i would like to sit down for some sushi and discuss hormones with the wizard of truth

[Meso_z]

Talk about progress.

im still waiting for the original link you little bitch.

[just_a_pilgrim]

So 'trainer' shirts were 3 for $10 huh

[Immortal_Technique]

Apparently if you stop eating and training completely it makes a difference too  

Drugs are obviously a huge part too though yes.

[KevinP85]

Apparently if you stop eating and training completely it makes a difference too  

Drugs are obviously a huge part too though yes.

True, but people will always try to ignore it.

I speak from experience, without anything I was  between 175-185 super lean, single percent bf year round at 6 feet tall.  With some basic assistance 205 on stage and 215-225 off stage with relatively the same bf. Does huge wonders whether people like to admit it or not and I consider myself to have pretty good genetics as far as muscle shape is concerned. Right now I have been off of everything weighing 200 or so.

[WingedLion]

no photoshop

[DroppingPlates]

http://www.bodystep.at/unsereteam.html

Who wants to get trained by any of these 

[KevinP85]

People need to keep in mind that MOST bber's are short 5'4, 5'6 and the tallest being around 5'10 or 5'11 in modern era. Don't see much muscle being packed on on those frames naturally.

I consider big to be around 6 feet and above. Genetics are one thing, but for most average joes with average genetics give them access to the drugs these "elite," pros are on and they can be just as impressive, maybe not win pro show, but pretty close. There are lots of guys walking around with potential to be "elite," pros, but the general public could give two shits about turning pro and impressing male audiences. That and the amount of drugs it takes. Most however, would rather try to play pro football or basketball.

[Meso_z]

The guy could have been Mr. Olympia...
I cant believe it, im pretty sure he had health problems, theres no other explanation.

[WingedLion]

Did you know that around 1992 I was working out in a gym here in my hometown and there were a lot of pictures cut out from magazines plastured all over the wall. We used to look at one of Mustafa who was a top Jordanian and world amateur at that time for inspiration during leg day ?

Good times

here's a pic from that year of him

[Thin Lizzy]

Apparently if you stop eating and training completely it makes a difference too  

What? I thought these guys were genetic freaks who, without training, would still be head and shoulders above mere mortals.

[Meso_z]

Did you know that around 1992 I was working out in a gym here in my hometown and there were a lot of pictures cut out from magazines plastured all over the wall. We used to look at one of Mustafa who was a top Jordanian and world amateur at that time for inspiration during leg day ?

Good times

here's a pic from that year of him

Its truly a shame he used to get screwed at any contest he entered. great bodybuilder.

[Mars]

lol these guys cant even maintain a decent build.

[njflex]

the wizard of truth once said:

"Many smaller bodybuilders say that the bigger bodybuilders are that way only because they take a lot of drugs. These simple minded and lost people don’t have a grasp on reality. Not everyone is genetically constructed so as to have the ideal mesomorph type of physique for bodybuilding. To get to the top of the pro ranks, you have to first have the genetics, and then the discipline and drive. Drugs won’t overcome genetics. Let me give you an example. You give a greyhound exactly the same amount of steroids as you give a rottweiler, but the rottweiler will always be bigger and more massive than the greyhound. It is just a biological fact"..

i like that,,,,good post

[nolotil]

lol these guys cant even maintain a decent build.

mars whats your training routine?

[WingedLion]

lol these guys cant even maintain a decent build.

or maybe they don't give a fuck

[Method101]

mesomorph/ectomorph/endomorph = BULLSHIT.

most people would have put Palumbo into the Ectomorph catergory back when he was a teenage runner, then he blew up to 280lbs with abs on drugs and people would say hes mesomorph.


these body type groups are horse shit, the only thing that really makes a difference is insertion points, bone shape, response to drugs.

Everyone has roughly the same potential to put on muscle naturally if they have normal hormone levels.

[njflex]

People need to keep in mind that MOST bber's are short 5'4, 5'6 and the tallest being around 5'10 or 5'11 in modern era. Don't see much muscle being packed on on those frames naturally.

I consider big to be around 6 feet and above. Genetics are one thing, but for most average joes with average genetics give them access to the drugs these "elite," pros are on and they can be just as impressive, maybe not win pro show, but pretty close. There are lots of guys walking around with potential to be "elite," pros, but the general public could give two shits about turning pro and impressing male audiences. That and the amount of drugs it takes. Most however, would rather try to play pro football or basketball.

good stuff ryan...dead on and realistic ,,and at least u understand the difference between being a good built gym guy /novice competitior and using for that level and trying to be a pro or aspiring and taking everything under the sun.good perspective bro.and yes u have good natural muscle shape,thats a bonus bro...

[slaveboy1980]

good stuff ryan...dead on and realistic ,,and at least u understand the difference between being a good built gym guy /novice competitior and using for that level and trying to be a pro or aspiring and taking everything under the sun.good perspective bro.and yes u have good natural muscle shape,thats a bonus bro...

yes i think it was a good post and i have written the same thing on here several times. i know people who wouldnt be over 160-170lbs in good shape who via drugs carry 220-230lbs. these guys are very impressive thanks to drugs but without they would  be average joes. yes drug response is important for elite bodybuilders and so i muscle shape but even if you dont have the best muscle shape or the best drug response...drugs will make a huge difference and people will be VERY impressed by even a juiced up average joe (and think he has super genetics lol)...specially if he is smart about his drug use, training and nutrition (drugs can make you grown without training..but hard and smart training will make the drugs work even better)

[slaveboy1980]

mesomorph/ectomorph/endomorph = BULLSHIT.

most people would have put Palumbo into the Ectomorph catergory back when he was a teenage runner, then he blew up to 280lbs with abs on drugs and people would say hes mesomorph.


these body type groups are horse shit, the only thing that really makes a difference is insertion points, bone shape, response to drugs.

Everyone has roughly the same potential to put on muscle naturally if they have normal hormone levels.

agreed, and even if you naturally have high testosterone levels and in other ways have super genetics you will be MILES away from the really huge drugged up physiques.

people also have to remember when they compare naturals to each other you have to take into account body fat level. as naturals can get real strong and big when carrying alot of fat..but when they diet down to low body fat levels..things change.

[njflex]

agreed, and even if you naturally have high testosterone levels and in other ways have super genetics you will be MILES away from the really huge drugged up physiques.

people also have to remember when they compare naturals to each other you have to take into account body fat level. as naturals can get real strong and big when carrying alot of fat..but when they diet down to low body fat levels..things change.

BUT as natural u could still pull it off,8/10 pct bf ok under 5 or so it gets dicey like u said.

[the_swami]

What? I thought these guys were genetic freaks who, without training, would still be head and shoulders above mere mortals.

thats a genetic freak like Coleman

Mustafa, i can guarantee, if he was to restart drug and training would blow up to his previous size etc within a few months- superiro genetic responder to drugs

[KevinP85]

thats a genetic freak like Coleman

Mustafa, i can guarantee, if he was to restart drug and training would blow up to his previous size etc within a few months- superiro genetic responder to drugs

Not so much anymore, most likely will drop dead if he decides to go that route given most likely he has health issues.

[BIG ACH]

Damn, I never ever want to stop lifting, ever, must truly fuck with your head psychologically!