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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2009, 03:56:06 PM »
kyomu same as 100 week out but still look pretty good one on the best of getbig
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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2009, 12:22:38 AM »
Kyomu , I used to be a natural competitor and one thing you should never do is ask a drug user (in this case drug abuser ) for advice.

Going down to 74 kgs and  adding 4 kgs  right before the show don't work for real naturals.

I totally second that, and I am 100% that he will look his best when he hits 74 kg and carb up rather than put it some 4 kg in just short period of time. (all the added size will be 70% water, 19.9fat & %0.1 muscles)

It is all up to Kymou, but try to rethink and recalculate things again.
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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2009, 12:28:14 AM »
Kyomu , I used to be a natural competitor and one thing you should never do is ask a drug user (in this case drug abuser ) for advice.

Going down to 74 kgs and  adding 4 kgs  right before the show don't work for real naturals.
Hey the planning is planning.
Its not an absolute idea.

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2009, 12:34:07 AM »
Kyomu , I used to be a natural competitor and one thing you should never do is ask a drug user (in this case drug abuser ) for advice.

Going down to 74 kgs and  adding 4 kgs  right before the show don't work for real naturals.
And also. Its not right before the show 6-8weeks before the show.And 2-3kg.Not 4.

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2009, 12:38:06 AM »
kyomu, as a Reniassance man of the world,  I pretty much disagree with everything that was said above.

11 weeks out, you have done your work. You look full and massive.

What's next?

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2009, 12:46:27 AM »
kyomu, as a Reniassance man of the world,  I pretty much disagree with everything that was said above.

11 weeks out, you have done your work. You look full and massive.

What's next?
Thanks for your support, King.

Next week, 82kg. Must be tighter and keep on being full. Very difficult for a natural bber.........
The key is way of eating complex and simple carbs.

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2009, 06:36:20 AM »
Thanks for your support, King.

Next week, 82kg. Must be tighter and keep on being full. Very difficult for a natural bber.........
The key is way of eating complex and simple carbs.


i would also advice you against complicating it too much. your not gonna add any real mass in this short period and on a diet, your goal should be to hang on the muscle you already have by trying to keep the poundages heavy (for you)..dieting down slowly and focus on getting ripped without doing too much vodoo stuff. also 500g of protein is overkill for a natural of your size...although i agree keeping protein high is important inorder to keep muscle. when dieting protein should be  atleast 2.5g per kg bodyweight and day...higher if you have a large caloric deficit...but still not as much as 500g..which is something like 6 g protein per kg BW.

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2009, 08:47:55 AM »
So your eating 400g of Pineapple a day, and you consider that a pre-contest diet? are you fuc#$# crazy?? .I know Pineapple contains Bromelain which is an anti inflamatory, but 400grams, lol.
You will never get hard on 400 grams of Pineapple a day my friend, trust me.
I won the Mr Natural World,  The Natural International and took 3rd in Mr Natural Universe.
Here is the pics from my last shows as a natural bodybuilders. I weighed 216lbs, which is about 98kg.I wish I could eat Pienapple, lol

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2009, 09:28:54 AM »
So your eating 400g of Pineapple a day, and you consider that a pre-contest diet? are you fuc#$# crazy?? .I know Pineapple contains Bromelain which is an anti inflamatory, but 400grams, lol.
You will never get hard on 400 grams of Pineapple a day my friend, trust me.
I won the Mr Natural World,  The Natural International and took 3rd in Mr Natural Universe.
Here is the pics from my last shows as a natural bodybuilders. I weighed 216lbs, which is about 98kg.I wish I could eat Pienapple, lol
IN THAT PIC ,,what stands out was good side delts tough for a natural .

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2009, 09:39:43 AM »
Thank you NJ Flex.....I thought my chest was overpowering personally, but I will take a side delt compliment anyday...My problem is I have big bones, and a big rib cage.That is why I look so thick in that picture.But from the front I look blocky, I have the symmetry of a brick, lol
My father and relatives were big husky men, so I wasn't one of these smalled boned guys.
All the men in my family were barrel chested.They all were 5'9"-5-11" and weighed 250-270lbs but never worked out.They were just big husky men from Naples Italy, that were big and crazy.My father and grandfather didn't take shi%$ from anybody.
You want to talk about strong, omg....My father smoked for 45 years.When I was 5 years old I seen my father pick up a automatic transmission from a I think it was a 1970 something Ford with a 400 cubic in motor, so it was heavy.He picked up the transmission and carried it about 25 yards to my uncles garage.It was my uncles car, but my uncle Pete couldn't help him because my Uncle Pete had Polio when he was a kid, so one leg is 4 inches shorter then then other.
So what can a guy with one leg 4" shorter then the other do? other then stand there and watch?
My father was one of the strongest people I know.He never lifted a weight in his life, but his arms were almost 18" and I think his chest was probably 51-52" .....When I was growing up my father was one of those people who didn't use a hand truck or a dolly to move things, he would just pick things up, and move them.He was truly insane.
I actually seen him pick up a Corvair 6 cylinder engine, and lift it from a milk crate to a bench.......
The funny thing is, he didn't physche himself up or pump himself up before he lifted things.He would just pick things up and move them, without thinking twice, lol

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2009, 09:45:53 AM »
Thank you NJ Flex.....I thought my chest was overpowering personally, but I will take a side delt compliment anyday...My problem is I have big bones, and a big rib cage.That is why I look so thick in that picture.But from the front I look blocky, I have the symmetry of a brick, lol
My father and relatives were big husky men, so I wasn't one of these smalled boned guys.
All the men in my family were barrel chested.They all were 5'9"-5-11" and weighed 250-270lbs but never worked out.They were just big husky men from Naples Italy, that were big and crazy.My father and grandfather didn't take shi%$ from anybody.
You want to talk about strong, omg....My father smoked for 45 years.When I was 5 years old I seen my father pick up a automatic transmission from a I think it was a 1970  something Ford with a 400 cubic in motor, so it was heavy.He picked up the transmission and carried it about 25 yards to my uncles garage.It was my uncles car, but my uncle Pete couldn't help him because my Uncle Pete had Polio when he was a kid, so one leg is 4 inches shorter then then other.

i have naples/sicily blood,,sorry kymou your thread,keep it up looking good,stay the course 11 wks is plenty trial and error just don't screw up 10/1/2 wks from now...

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2009, 10:03:38 AM »
Since I interupted Kymou thread, it will do this for him
Kymous have you ever did carb cycling for your diet?  Zig Zag your carbs to keep your metabolism going? This Why the body never gets used to the same amount of carbohydrates its getting,.
Just like training you don't train the same chest workout every week do you? No because you want to confuse the muscle.So the muscle responds.By keeping your carbs the same everyday, the body adapts and your metabolism is therefore not stimulated.
To get hard you have to zig zag your carb intake.

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2009, 10:13:58 AM »
Since I interupted Kymou thread, it will do this for him
Kymous have you ever did carb cycling for your diet?  Zig Zag your carbs to keep your metabolism going? This Why the body never gets used to the same amount of carbohydrates its getting,.
Just like training you don't train the same chest workout every week do you? No because you want to confuse the muscle.So the muscle responds.By keeping your carbs the same everyday, the body adapts and your metabolism is therefore not stimulated.
To get hard you have to zig zag your carb intake.

From my own experience, carb cycling works beautifully 'til you get around 10% BF (just a bit under), which is already good for a natural (by natural I also mean no T3/T4, no diuretics). But once I hit that BF level, I started losing lean mass pretty quickly while still carb cycling. Some say ketonic diet is the way to go at that point. I haven't tried it. If anybody knows, your insight would be appreciated.

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2009, 11:56:28 AM »
Kyomu you look on target plenty of time left, to lighten things up a bit we need entertainment 8) Suckh as Lord Taka or Bull riding

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2009, 12:13:25 PM »
So your eating 400g of Pineapple a day, and you consider that a pre-contest diet? are you fuc#$# crazy?? .I know Pineapple contains Bromelain which is an anti inflamatory, but 400grams, lol.
You will never get hard on 400 grams of Pineapple a day my friend, trust me.
I won the Mr Natural World,  The Natural International and took 3rd in Mr Natural Universe.
Here is the pics from my last shows as a natural bodybuilders. I weighed 216lbs, which is about 98kg.I wish I could eat Pienapple, lol
400g of the can of pine.
If i am getting hard, whats the point?
If my condition keep on showing progress with ice cream, i would keep on eating that.
Simple, during showing the change, why should i change my diet?
When my physique dont change, i will change it.

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2009, 12:15:35 PM »
Since I interupted Kymou thread, it will do this for him
Kymous have you ever did carb cycling for your diet?  Zig Zag your carbs to keep your metabolism going? This Why the body never gets used to the same amount of carbohydrates its getting,.
Just like training you don't train the same chest workout every week do you? No because you want to confuse the muscle.So the muscle responds.By keeping your carbs the same everyday, the body adapts and your metabolism is therefore not stimulated.
To get hard you have to zig zag your carb intake.
Of course, i am doing that already. ;)

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2009, 12:16:57 PM »
Kyomu you look on target plenty of time left, to lighten things up a bit we need entertainment 8) Suckh as Lord Taka or Bull riding
Next time, I try to make some joke if i am not agressive.(During training, i am really agressive.)

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2009, 12:17:51 PM »
Next time, I try to make some joke if i am not agressive.(During training, i am really agressive.)
I see all buisness now good job

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2009, 12:36:06 PM »
I see all buisness now good job
Because, i train with enthusiasm. Almost trance.

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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2009, 12:47:53 PM »
Because, i train with enthusiasm. Almost trance.
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Re: Me 11 weeksout from Barcelona championship 83kg
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2009, 12:53:15 PM »
The Way of TAO
The happiness = The disappearance in the explosion of emortion.