Sunni vs Shiite - why?

[George Whorewell]

Hmm I see, so let me get this straight, only Muslims believe in backwards things? So the Christian Idea of Jesus coming down and lifting the true believers to heaven in a rapture and then waging a 7 year war against Satan's son is a very progressive idea 

Or did you forget that the Mormans believe in some pretty backwards things as well.

Point is all religion is fucked.

Beliefs aren't the issue-- it's the practices. I could care less if a religion believed that God was a Unicorn and that heaven was made out of ice cream; Being backward stems from what the followers of the religion do. 





Your example with Christianity is completely inappropriate to apply in this situation. However, while we are discussing beliefs I dont believe that Christians and Mormons believe that killing non believers while killing yourself grants you 72 virgins.

[Palpatine Q]

Your example with Christianity is completely inappropriate to apply in this situation. However, while we are discussing beliefs I dont believe that Christians and Mormons believe that killing non believers while killing yourself grants you 72 virgins.

And what a noble religion it is 

Kill yourself, and some innocent people....and you get to fuck little girls for all eternity...what a high-minded concept....really 

[ksa_triceps]

Again people blame Islam for suicide bombings when the teachings condemn and puts them in the category of murderers. No one seems to understand that those suicide bombers are doing this under their own principles. Arabs do/did crazy things since the beginning of time, in fact, Islam is the religion which tamed them to become a 1 Billion nation with a couple of hundred exceptions.

And again, what I say won't matter as long as people insist to believe in generalizing, and never put the effort to read or inspect what is really going on.

[garebear]

Again people blame Islam for suicide bombings when the teachings condemn and puts them in the category of murderers. No one seems to understand that those suicide bombers are doing this under their own principles. Arabs do/did crazy things since the beginning of time, in fact, Islam is the religion which tamed them to become a 1 Billion nation with a couple of hundred exceptions.

And again, what I say won't matter as long as people insist to believe in generalizing, and never put the effort to read or inspect what is really going on.

Are you being serious?

[George Whorewell]

LOL that post doesn't even warrant a response but I will any way because its hysterical---

A couple of hundred exceptions?

And tamed them into a nation of 1 billion? Tamed them? 

Your post is evidence in itself that Islam is a horror show of a religion.

[wavelength]

Fark religion. Period.

[ksa_triceps]

 

Care to tell me how many suicide bombers there was? Are you saying they're in millions or am i just so far away from the truth. You do realize that a very large number will result in the human population to go down drastically.

Do you know that people do things based on their own way of thinking. Taliban scream Allahu-Akbar all day and harvest cocaine in the night. Cocaine dealers are beheaded in Islam?!....  Some people do whacky things and just happen to be Muslim. Two entirely different things.

Terrorists are hunted and killed on sight, at the strictest Islamic-wahhaby nation on earth (Saudi Arabia). How does that make sense to you?

I see the hundred thing hurt your feelings? If you are smart enough to understand the fact that what the terrorist are doing can not be linked to Islam by any way or manner, then you'd realize that that number goes down to ZERO. How's that?

[Sherief Shalaby]

And what a noble religion it is 

Kill yourself, and some innocent people....and you get to fuck little girls for all eternity...what a high-minded concept....really 

most of the US troops are christians and they killed millions of innocent koreans, vietnamese, afghanistanis, iraqis and more!!..

can i use your words and say in a mocking tone what a noble religion? .. of course not because i know well that beside those heartless killers there are a lot of great christians!!..

PS: for nasser you are "gronk who??"..

[garebear]

most of the US troops are christians and they killed millions of innocent koreans, vietnamese, afghanistanis, iraqis and more!!..

can i use your words and say in a mocking tone what a noble religion? .. of course not because i know well that beside those heartless killers there are a lot of great christians!!..

PS: for nasser you are "gronk who??"..

Do you really believe that a sky god gave his instructions to a man in a cave 1400 years ago and that civilization should be based upon this? In your heart of hearts, and in your moments most alone, do you really believe this is what happened?

Or are you just responding to the pressure of those around you?

[Gino30]

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Fucking Muslims.  You idiots and Christians deserve one another.

Leave me the Buddhists and the Jews. 

Be careful what you wish for

[Sherief Shalaby]

Do you really believe that a sky god gave his instructions to a man in a cave 1400 years ago and that civilization should be based upon this? In your heart of hearts, and in your moments most alone, do you really believe this is what happened?

Or are you just responding to the pressure of those around you?

believe it or not i believe in ALLAH 100% with a ZERO doubt.. you may see me stupid but i dont think this is a reason to hate me as long as i am good and respectful with you!..

[George Whorewell]

To our enlightened members of the "religion" of peace-- I ask this

If as you claim, there are "hundreds" of radical Muslims only -- Can you explain the world wide rioting and blood shed when a News Paper in Denmark showed an image of Mohammad?

Were a few hundred people flying across the western hemisphere blowing shit up and rioting?

Say whatever you want about other religions-- There is no other religion on earth today that is more violent, primitive or resistant to progress than Islam.

[nycbull]

there is no moderate muslim movement to speak of.

[Sherief Shalaby]

To our enlightened members of the "religion" of peace-- I ask this

If as you claim, there are "hundreds" of radical Muslims only -- Can you explain the world wide rioting and blood shed when a News Paper in Denmark showed an image of Mohammad?

Were a few hundred people flying across the western hemisphere blowing shit up and rioting?

Say whatever you want about other religions-- There is no other religion on earth today that is more violent, primitive or resistant to progress than Islam.

this tells you that most of muslims love their relegion and dont accept to see it attacked or mocked!!.. dont hurt my feelings then ask why i show you hatred!!.. yes if you and i were in the same place and you said shit about my religion i am sure you would not like my reaction!!..

[garebear]

this tells you that most of muslims love their relegion and dont accept to see it attacked or mocked!!.. dont hurt my feelings then ask why i show you hatred!!.. yes if you and i were in the same place and you said shit about my religion i am sure you would not like my reaction!!..

There may be unhapiness, but there won't be nearly the violence.

When Van Gogh made a film depicting the brutal treatment of women under Islam, he was stabbed and shot. A knife was stuck in his chest with a note threatening a woman working with him.

Listen, these are just facts.

How many Christians and Jews and Buddhists make videos of cutting people's heads off? How many are car bombers? How many wear suicide vests into crowded markets full of women?

We are watching the actions of Islam and we know. You can dress it up all you want, we have seen and we know.

[Sherief Shalaby]

There may be unhapiness, but there won't be nearly the violence.

When Van Gogh made a film depicting the brutal treatment of women under Islam, he was stabbed and shot. A knife was stuck in his chest with a note threatening a woman working with him.

Listen, these are just facts.

How many Christians and Jews and Buddhists make videos of cutting people's heads off? How many are car bombers? How many wear suicide vests into crowded markets full of women?

We are watching the actions of Islam and we know. You can dress it up all you want, we have seen and we know.

van gogh showed words of quran on naked bodies which is very insulting.. why didnt he say his idea in a more respectful way??.. for every action there is a reaction..

how many christians killed millions of innocent vietnamis and iraqis??.. how many jews killed millions of palastenians children??..

how many christians converted to islam and how many muslims converted to christianity??.. why do you think thousands of ppl (may be millions) convert to islam every year?..

[George Whorewell]

So what if it's insulting?

If someone insults you, do you have the right to murder them, or better yet, innocent people as a result?

People have the right to express their opinions and should be able to do so without the fear of being butchered.

Only in barbaric, backward societies is this kind of criminality tolerated.

Christians and Jews are mocked, demonzied, and humiliated on a daily basis-- The media, politicians, hollywood, etc. have been doing this for years. What is the reaction-- anger of course, but no innocent people are murdered as a result.

It's almost as if muslims as a group are less than human-- Ignorant, immature children incapable of taking criticism or insults without resorting to mindless violent behavior.

The rest of the world seems able to control themselves. I hate to break the news to you-- You are not special. You have to follow the rules and take the bad with the good like everyone else.

And PS-- Just to show how moronic muslims across the globe are, if I am not mistaken ONLY MUSLIMS cannot show an image of Muhammhad. Therefore, the rioting over the cartoons in Denmark was not only inappropriate, but totally WRONG from a religious point of view.

[Sherief Shalaby]

So what if it's insulting?

If someone insults you, do you have the right to murder them, or better yet, innocent people as a result?

People have the right to express their opinions and should be able to do so without the fear of being butchered.

Only in barbaric, backward societies is this kind of criminality tolerated.

Christians and Jews are mocked, demonzied, and humiliated on a daily basis-- The media, politicians, hollywood, etc. have been doing this for years. What is the reaction-- anger of course, but no innocent people are murdered as a result.

It's almost as if muslims as a group are less than human-- Ignorant, immature children incapable of taking criticism or insults without resorting to mindless violent behavior.

The rest of the world seems able to control themselves. I hate to break the news to you-- You are not special. You have to follow the rules and take the bad with the good like everyone else.

And PS-- Just to show how moronic muslims across the globe are, if I am not mistaken ONLY MUSLIMS cannot show an image of Muhammhad. Therefore, the rioting over the cartoons in Denmark was not only inappropriate, but totally WRONG from a religious point of view.

i am not saying i agree with the guy who killed van gogh but i understand why he did so!!..

great you didnt comment with a single word about christains and jews who killed millions of innocent ppl around the world for no good reason

[BIG ACH]

I was raised in a muslim household, and for the longest time I really practiced the religion, regular prayers, fasting during ramadan, attending mosque, etc.

But my views about islam (and all organized religions in general) has really changed in the last 3 years.  The more and more I read, the more contradicting and fucked up shit seemed, so I stopped practicing everything all together, and really just don't believe in it anymore.  I'm not so sure if I even believe god really exists or not,

and to be honest ever since I stopped practicing I feel SOOO MUCH BETTER about myself and my life, and I believe I'm actually a BETTER person since I've stopped, (less judgemental, etc)

So many wars, fights, arguments, battles, have been caused by religion, even by the same religions such as islam with the Sunnis VS Shiite, - it all just doesn't seem right, and I'm very glad I don't associate myself with it anymore.  Maybe I'm still a muslim by tradition, and the way I was raised, but it stops there and I just don't believe in it anymore!

[Ex Coelis]

all religions are paths to God - some are just more direct than others

I am a proud Catholic and everyday my faith challenges me to be a better person

[BIG ACH]

all religions are paths to God - some are just more direct than others

I am a proud Catholic and everyday my faith challenges me to be a better person

Thats an interesting quote, never heard it before


I'm glad you are happy with your faith and what it brings into your life, to each his own.  Some people will say this is the faith to go with, or that is, or none at all, but I truly believe what makes you the best person you can be is whats right for you.  As long as you lead a long and fullfilling life, thats all that matters!

[ksa_triceps]

And PS-- Just to show how moronic muslims across the globe are, if I am not mistaken ONLY MUSLIMS cannot show an image of Muhammhad. Therefore, the rioting over the cartoons in Denmark was not only inappropriate, but totally WRONG from a religious point of view.

So if people pass on naked cartoons of your family doing indecent actions that would be considered "ok" if they don't know how your family looks like? You'd say bring it on folks, you have no idea how they look like? Afterall, it's moronic to think otherwise??

And when Muslims respect and consider Jesus as a prophet, and have never said anything that would be considered an insult for 1400 years. Same goes for every other religion. Why would anyone even think of insulting the prophet and the number one symbol of the Islamic nation. People know what the reaction would be, a newspaper cartoonist becomes famous and well known. Great!

Freedom of speech?? You must be a genius if you believe it exists. Holocaust "cough".

[Ex Coelis]

[Sherief Shalaby]

Thats an interesting quote, never heard it before


I'm glad you are happy with your faith and what it brings into your life, to each his own.  Some people will say this is the faith to go with, or that is, or none at all, but I truly believe what makes you the best person you can be is whats right for you.  As long as you lead a long and fullfilling life, thats all that matters!

but bro. if there is no religion what is the source to tell you this thing is right or wrong!!.. this source cant be yourself, you cant be your own judge, right?.. we are not the same so what your see right may be wrong according to others.. if there is no religion what is the problem to do all bad things to achieve your goals, to lie, to steal or even to kill!!.. you may cheat on your wife and see it ok and just a moment for change!..

sure a good man knows what is right and what is wrong without religion but unfortunately we are not all good  

[BIG ACH]

but bro. if there is no religion what is the source to tell you this thing is right or wrong!!.. this source cant be yourself, you cant be your own judge, right?.. we are not the same so what your see right may be wrong according to others.. if there is no problem what is the problem to do all bad things to achieve your goals, to lie, to steal or even to kill!!.. you may cheat on your wife and see it ok and just a moment for change!..

sure a good man knows what is right and what is wrong without religion but unfortunately we are not good 

Sherif I personally do not believe that one needs religion to know what right or wrong is.  It doesn't take religion to explain that, right or wrong is a matter of human interactions between one person and another, its dependent on rules, reactions, and interctions.  Plus there are somethings in the religion (and other religions) that is wrong in some cultures!