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Jersey Shore Residents Freaked Out By New Tax On Fake Tanning
Courtney Comstock | Dec. 22, 2009, 2:04 PM | 349 |  1
PrintTags: Health Care Reform, Politics, Economy
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The healthcare package now contains a 10% tax on indoor tanning.

Owners are worried. They say they'll lose customers if they have to raise prices.

"These taxes go against what our president said he was going to do -- not taxing anyone who makes less than $250,000. All of these taxes hit the majority of people," one tanning salon owner tells KY3 News.

Also, they say, the tax targets women - one third of whom visit tanning beds before they turn thirty.

Still, many others support the tax. “It will cost the government more money to care for these people who tanned decades ago,” said Dr. Raffaele Pennela, a dermatologist for St. John’s Health System.

But don't worry, cash strapped indoor tanners. The tax only applies to cancer-causing fake n' baking. Spray Tanning is exempt.

Read more at KY3 News >

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Can this disgusting govt get any worse?

Serioysly, by driving tanning bed salons out of business, do you have have any idea how many others get hurt as well? 

Landlords, suppliers, cleaning services, etc.

Good job you marxists, communists and vermin, you will own the 25% UE rate coming soon

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“It will cost the government more money to care for these people who tanned decades ago,”

Ummm,it wouldnt if the filthy government stopped trying to take over the health care system.Ive been to the hospital and gotten many bodyparts sown back on and NOT ONCE has the filthy government had to pay for it.

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Good.  Tanning beds have PROVEN that if you use them, you will have a higher chance of cancer.  This is a fiscally responsible tax, it's taxing those that are most likely to use and need future cancer treatments.  This is what happens with cigarettes and i have no issue with it being applied to tanning salons.
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Use of a tanning bed is definitely a luxury type purchase and most idiots who use them won't notice or care about a 10% increase

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Good.  Tanning beds have PROVEN that if you use them, you will have a higher chance of cancer.  This is a fiscally responsible tax, it's taxing those that are most likely to use and need future cancer treatments.  This is what happens with cigarettes and i have no issue with it being applied to tanning salons.

Please give me the statistic that has shown adding taxes and warnings to cigarettes has dropped the cases of cancer due to cigarette smoking.

This is yet another law to put yet another buisiness enterprise out of existance.The democrats HATE small buisiness' and buisiness in general.Like I said,Ive been to the hospital getting shit sown back on NOT once has the filthy government paid for me.

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Use of a tanning bed is definitely a luxury type purchase and most idiots who use them won't notice or care about a 10% increase


How about the owners who work on a 10% margin now and cant pass along these taxes to their customers?  

Who the fuck is this disgusting leviathon govt to single out anyone for taxes?  

How would you feel if they imposed this tax on gay S&M clubs you frequent?  

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Please give me the statistic that has shown adding taxes and warnings to cigarettes has dropped the cases of cancer due to cigarette smoking.

This is yet another law to put yet another buisiness enterprise out of existance.The democrats HATE small buisiness' and buisiness in general.Like I said,Ive been to the hospital getting shit sown back on NOT once has the filthy government paid for me.

It's not about dropping the rate Billy.  It's about informing consumers and making sure people who take a higher risk are not being a burden on other people.  

Democrats don't hate small business, this is about high risk behavior being paid for out of the pocket of those who under take that risk.  Nothing more.  

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Please give me the statistic that has shown adding taxes and warnings to cigarettes has dropped the cases of cancer due to cigarette smoking.

This is yet another law to put yet another buisiness enterprise out of existance.The democrats HATE small buisiness' and buisiness in general.Like I said,Ive been to the hospital getting shit sown back on NOT once has the filthy government paid for me.

When we hit 20% UE official, it will be solely on the marxists like Straw and KC with policies like these.  Putting these people out of business will result in less tax revenue to fund CommieCare, hurt landlords and employment, and result in more misery for the economy. 

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It's not about dropping the rate Billy.  It's about informing consumers and making sure people who take a higher risk are not being a burden on other people.  

Democrats don't hate small business, this is about high risk behavior being paid for out of the pocket of those who under take that risk.  Nothing more.  



GMAFB - marxists hate business and do everything possible to destroy private enterprise. 

Take your bright ideas and nanny state and move to cuba or venezuela where you would fit right in. 

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How about the owners who work on a 10% margin now and cant pass along these taxes to their customers?  

Who the fuck is this disgusting leviathon govt to single out anyone for taxes?  

How would you feel if they imposed this tax on gay S&M clubs you frequent?  

Oh please.  If you work on a 10% margin and can't pass on a 10% cost which equates to a real cost of about $3.5 to the consumer on the higher end (15 sessions run around $35 at a lot of places) then your business was destined to fail and that's the hard reality.  

Why is it 333 you go to bat for business but never for the worker?
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GMAFB - marxists hate business and do everything possible to destroy private enterprise. 

Take your bright ideas and nanny state and move to cuba or venezuela where you would fit right in. 

How is this marxist? Have taxes not been imposed throughout America's history? Is this the first tax on a higher risk product? Do you feel the same way about cigarettes too 333?
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How is this marxist? Have taxes not been imposed throughout America's history? Is this the first tax on a higher risk product? Do you feel the same way about cigarettes too 333?

I dont believe in any of this nanny state nonsense.  People should be able to do whatever they want with their own bodies, isnt that what the left always refers to as "pro-choice"? 

How about we tax abortions? 

How about we tax sex changes since gay men are a hazard to society?


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if the government is so worried about peoples healthcare costs to the point of taxing tanning bed salons then why havent they banned cigarrets, they cause way more health problems then tanning. and why in the hell is the government kicking around talks of legalizing weed if they are so worried about health risks???  hmm sound like a play for more power and money for big government on its way to socialism.

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How about the owners who work on a 10% margin now and cant pass along these taxes to their customers?  

Who the fuck is this disgusting leviathon govt to single out anyone for taxes?  

How would you feel if they imposed this tax on gay S&M clubs you frequent?  

really - you're going right to personal insults over a fucking tax on tanning?

You're really acting like much more of a whiny little bitch then usual today

Did you get your period?

If you took 4 seconds to actually read my post you'd see that I said they WOULD be able to pass it along and if they can't WHO CARES?

dumb fucks who go to tanning salons won't stop going because it cost $1 more than it used to.


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if the government is so worried about peoples healthcare costs to the point of taxing tanning bed salons then why havent they banned cigarrets, they cause way more health problems then tanning. and why in the hell is the government kicking around talks of legalizing weed if they are so worried about health risks???  hmm sound like a play for more power and money for big government on its way to socialism.

The oppresive Nanny State like Straw and KC beg for will accomplish what invading armies and al Queada never could dream of.  

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I dont believe in any of this nanny state nonsense.  People should be able to do whatever they want with their own bodies, isnt that what the left always refers to as "pro-choice"? 

How about we tax abortions? 

How about we tax sex changes since gay men are a hazard to society?



No one has taken away anyone's 'choice' here 333.  Paying for your actions isn't taking away choice.  People aren't suddenly going to starve because they have to pay $3.50 more for tanning.  Once again you've blown something way out of proportion and shown you are nothing but a close minded little man.  
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really - you're going right to personal insults over a fucking tax on tanning?

You're really acting like much more of a whiny little bitch then usual today

Did you get your period?

If you took 4 seconds to actually read my post you'd see that I said they WOULD be able to pass it along and if they can't WHO CARES?

dumb fucks who go to tanning salons won't stop going because it cost $1 more than it used to.



My point is that who is the govt to single them out like this? 

And by the logic of you and others, why not tax sex changes and abortions? 

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No one has taken away anyone's 'choice' here 333.  Paying for your actions isn't taking away choice.  People aren't suddenly going to starve because they have to pay $3.50 more for tanning.  Once again you've blown something way out of proportion and shown you are nothing but a close minded little man.  

Thats not the point fool.  Today tanning salons, tommorow what? 

BTW - do you know that they started out taxing cosmetic surgery, but that got dropped because the surgeons protested? 

Where does this insanity end? 

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if the government is so worried about peoples healthcare costs to the point of taxing tanning bed salons then why havent they banned cigarrets, they cause way more health problems then tanning. and why in the hell is the government kicking around talks of legalizing weed if they are so worried about health risks???  hmm sound like a play for more power and money for big government on its way to socialism.

Would you support taking away peoples choice like that?  

How is instituting a tax socialism? please explain IN DETAIL, not one of your regurgitated fox sound bites, how exactly this is socialism?  
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My point is that who is the govt to single them out like this? 

And by the logic of you and others, why not tax sex changes and abortions? 

this whole fucking bill is loaded with shit like this but I'm not losing any sleep because someone might have to pay $1 more to lay in tanning bed.  

I'd be fine if the Dems scrapped the whole thing and just made it Medicare for Everyone - End of Story

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My point is that who is the govt to single them out like this? 

And by the logic of you and others, why not tax sex changes and abortions? 

If sex changes and abortions were PROVEN to result in a higher risk of say cancer or death or future costs to American's i would be all for it.  Until you can prove that correlation i won't support such a measure.  
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Once again you've blown something way out of proportion and shown you are nothing but a close minded little man.  

Only because you've chosen to narrow the perspective to this incident.  We are being nickel and dimed to death.  A small increase here, a small increase there.  It adds up substantially.

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the idea that the government thinks they need to put higher taxes on things that may or may not lead to need for healthcare is leading strait into socialism ,  lets say for example there are 100,000 tanning beds in the u.s. the 10% raise is almost 3 part time employees monthly earnings, so if a business owner can make that 10% back up by letting 2 of those three people go that means 200,000 people just lost their job and now depend on the government just like the government wants, oh and kc  as a teenager i managed a couple of tanning salons and i know what there margins are and people will get let go over 10% percent extra tax.....

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If sex changes and abortions were PROVEN to result in a higher risk of say cancer or death or future costs to American's i would be all for it.  Until you can prove that correlation i won't support such a measure.  


I get your point, but abortions PROVEN to result in death.

lol, just funny the way you worded it.

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This is another example of why this bill is a complete disaster.  The revenue projections will NEVER be met and costs much higher.  
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Cosmetic Surgeons Get Reid to Tax Tanning Salons Instead .
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Doctors were able to surgically remove the so-called Botax from the Senate's health-care overhaul bill and replace it with a 10% tax on tanning services.

"We suggested that the tanning tax would be a better alternative to the cosmetic tax and hopefully will reduce the incidence of skin cancer down the road," said David M. Pariser, president of the American Academy of Dermatology Association, which represents dermatologists.

The American Medical Association had also opposed the proposed 5% tax on cosmetic procedures -- dubbed the Botax after the antiwrinkle product Botox -- which was among the issues it wanted changed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. After that change and others were made over the weekend, the AMA announced its support Monday for the Senate bill.

A spokesman for Mr. Reid said in an email the tanning tax was "on the table for a while" before the Botax was proposed several weeks ago.

An industry spokesman said U.S. tanning businesses were unlikely to earn enough to provide the government with the roughly $2.7 billion over 10 years envisioned by the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation. The Botax was expected to generate an estimated $5.8 billion.

There are an estimated 20,000 tanning salons in the U.S., mostly stand-alone shops, and it's impossible to know what total revenue figures are for the industry, said Dan Humiston, president of the Indoor Tanning Association. "It's almost laughable" to think the tanning industry's revenue adds up to what Congress is projecting, said Mr. Humiston, who owns a chain of 34 salons in upstate New York.

Mr. Humiston added that salons have been hit hard by the downturn, as middle-class customers cut back on spending. He said he has closed four shops since 2008, and has been discounting heavily to get customers. "Our industry is really beat up," he said. "And now, a 10% tax? Where are we going to get this?"

Mr. Humiston added the tax was a surprise. "We do have a lobbying presence in Washington," he said, "but not to the extent of the medical industry."

The tanning industry said Monday it was getting unfairly burned. But to dermatologists, the switch from a cosmetic tax to a tanning tax was a no-brainer. "Indoor tanning is a practice which is a known carcinogen," said the dermatologist group's Dr. Pariser.

For its part, the Indoor Tanning Association maintains that overexposure to any source of ultraviolet light, including sunlight, is potentially dangerous. Instead, the association promotes "responsible" tanning.

Write to Barbara Martinez at Barbara.Martinez@wsj.com


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Just great KC & Straw - one group lobbies more than the other to get the govt off thewir back and on to someone elses' back.  

This is real "Change" and it absolutely sucks.  So the big corporate lobby gets to step on the smaller lobby by having the govt do its bidding.  

Nice.  This bunch of marxists and tyrants in DC make the GOP look like nothing.