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Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2009, 07:42:37 AM »
Why? 'cause Floyd has so much more credibility than Manny? Who has the actual history of making excuses and breaking the rules?

Hey man that wasn't intended as an attack on Manny.  Whether you're a Floyd fan or Manny fan (or both in my case), this should be about doing the right thing.

I just see no justification in him refusing to the Olympic type of drug testing, NONE at all.  Serious question:  If this fight doesn't go ahead, will you call Mayweather a pussy, or will u call Pacquiao a cheater?

Floyd doesn't make excuses, he is an undefeated fighter.  He broke the rules against Marquez, and paid the subsequent fine.

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Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2009, 08:15:11 AM »
i go completely white and pass out every single time i ever get blood drawn. i fucking hate it so much.

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Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy
« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2009, 08:16:42 AM »
THIS IS TAKEN FROM OSCAR'S BLOG
http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1457/de_la_hoya_blog_pacquiaomayweather_impasse/

Oscar De La Hoya gives his take on Manny Pacquiao’s refusal to take Olympic-style random blood tests, which is threatening to scuttle a pending fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on March 13. Bob Arum, Pacquiao’s promoter, has said that the fighter is willing to take blood tests three months before the fight, 30 days before the fight and after the fight but not random tests. Pacquiao doesn’t want to be tested close to fight because, he says, it weakens him. The sides appear to be considering a compromise that would involve a cutoff date for testing – maybe 3-5 days before the fight – to solve the impasse. De La Hoya has fought two fighters found to have taken performance enhancing drugs – Shane Mosley and Fernando Vargas. He also fought Pacquiao.
First of all, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency agreed that they won’t take blood from the fighters 48 hours before the fight as some people seem to think. They’re going to take only a few tablespoons through random testing in the three months leading up to the fight.

If Pacquiao, the toughest guy on the planet, is afraid of needles and having a few tablespoons of blood drawn from his system, then something is wrong. The guy has tattoos everywhere; he’s tattooed from top to bottom. You’re telling me he’s afraid of needles?

And the idea that urine tests can detect HGH [Human Growth Hormone] is wrong. I talked to Travis Tygart, CEO of the USADA. He testified before Congress that anyone who says HGH can be detected by a urine test is mistaken. It can only be detected by a blood test.
So you have to do the blood work. If Pacquiao doesn’t want to do this and risk a possible $40 million payday because he’s afraid of needles or believes he’ll be weakened by blood tests, then that raises question marks.

Now I have to wonder about him. I’m saying to myself, “Wow. Those Mosley punches, those Vargas punches and those Pacquiao punches all felt the same.” I’m not saying yes or no [about whether Pacquiao might be taking performance-enhancing drugs]; I’m just saying that now people have to wonder: “Why doesn’t he want to do this? Why is it such a big deal.”

A lot of eyebrows have been raised. This is not good at all.

I believe Mayweather wants to do the right thing, to get tested properly. He’s not doing it to harass Pacquiao; that’s garbage. I would say to Pacquiao: “Do the test. Do it because it’s only a couple of tablespoons. Needles don’t hurt. Just look away when they put the needle in your arm.” He’ll probably lose more blood in the fight than the blood being drawn for the test.

And do it because we as a sport are in a unique situation. We can paint ourselves as the cleanest sport by doing this test. Why don’t you want to do it?

C’mon. It’s only a little bit of blood. If you have nothing to hide, then do the test

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Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy
« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2009, 08:17:33 AM »
i go completely white and pass out every single time i ever get blood drawn. i fucking hate it so much.

pussy!  ;D

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Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy
« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2009, 08:21:14 AM »
pussy!  ;D
i can stick a 1 and a half inch 25 gauge needle into my shoulder with no problems at all though. weird.  ;D

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Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy
« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2009, 08:24:55 AM »
theres something about needles going into my veins that i just dint like, nothing like shooting im....

if he doesn't agree to this he will always be under suspicion

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Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy
« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2009, 09:33:08 AM »
I don't know if anyone in this thread understands Tagalog (I do) but you should be able to sift through some of it and see that Manny is ALL for blood testing. He just doesn't want it on the actual day of the fight as he really feels it will weaken him. He is merely laughing this whole issue off. He's even calling Mayweather out as being scared and maybe he should gather up some courage to actually fight him.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12/24/09/pacquiao-chides-mayweather-excuses-excuses

Here is a little quote in Tag-Lish (Tagalog-English):

“Require natin lahat pati blood test... pero ‘wag naman doon sa day of the fight, manghihina ka naman noon,” he said.

Translation: "Let's require everything, including blood tests... but please not on the day of the fight, you'll get weak."

It is clear Manny isn't hiding anything. Everything is blown out of proportion from Mayweather and even Oscar's ultra biased stance.

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Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy
« Reply #57 on: December 24, 2009, 10:04:21 AM »

Manny might not like needles or it might make him weak? That could all be true. It's BS this drug testing thing and just the start for the attention they're gonna try and bring to this fight. It's just for the hype. There's way too money on the table for this one.


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Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy
« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2009, 10:17:20 AM »

Manny might not like needles or it might make him weak? That could all be true. It's BS this drug testing thing and just the start for the attention they're gonna try and bring to this fight. It's just for the hype. There's way too money on the table for this one.

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