Have any of you ever practiced Hapkido ?

[oldtimer1]

Boxing, BJJ, Sambo and Muay Thai are the way to go.  Katas and point fighting are pointless.  Korean Hapkido used to be great considering it was the only Karate with take downs but that was ages ago before the MMA revolution showed what works in the real world.

[BIG ACH]

Why is everyone coming on here and telling me that Hapkido is pointless in the streets and that I have to go with BJJ, don't you all read the thread?


I'm not interested in this because of street fighting! I'm genuinely interested in point fighting for sport, don't really care about the katas all that much but I know they are part of many of the arts!

[oldtimer1]

Sorry for the post.  If that's your thing go for it and don't give a damm what anyone else thinks.

[BIG ACH]

Thanks OT, I will just wanted to see if anyone tried it and if they had any suggestions for schools, etc!

[Topskin69]

BJJ is the most practical of all the martial arts, however even this has limited practial value in the real world.

Trying to armbar, or triangle choke someone on the ground while 6 of your opponets friends try and kick your head in, does not make for sucess.

In the real word...know where your nearest weapon is, and your nearest exit. Use the weapon if possible, and run!

M!

[oldtimer1]

In the real world people use weapons.  Walking away to the exit  if possible is always option one. 

[The RedMeatKid]

Yo, check out my sensie:

[Bobby]

this was my sensei

[uberman09]

dont you have something beter to do of your life 

Sparring overated?  Ummm ok.  Here is a pic of me with my nose busted 4 weeks ago while sparring.  This is with headgear and 16oz gloves.  Cost me 1,100 in medical bills to have it straightened back out.

hahah what a retard. and proud of it.

[BIG ACH]

Stotm Shadow, for the record I didn't write that article - someone else, I personally don't consider sparring to be overrated and have seen friends get some serious fucking injuries!  sparring definitely has its advantages but no matter the discipline its still very different than real life situations!

[Captain Equipoise]

The consensus is pretty clear, muay thai and boxing = way to go... old school like karate, kung fu, aikido, hapkido = waste of time... but I suppose you already knew that before starting this thread.. for all practical purposes (in self defense and street fighting) that's the way to go.. if you're into point fighting and the sport aspect of it, and want to dedicate a good 7-15 years of your life to an art, then by all means go for it dude

It just sounds like you're bitter that those with experience told you the truth and you were hoping for a different answer.

[BIG ACH]

The consensus is pretty clear, muay thai and boxing = way to go... old school like karate, kung fu, aikido, hapkido = waste of time... but I suppose you already knew that before starting this thread.. for all practical purposes (in self defense and street fighting) that's the way to go.. if you're into point fighting and the sport aspect of it, and want to dedicate a good 7-15 years of your life to an art, then by all means go for it dude

It just sounds like you're bitter that those with experience told you the truth and you were hoping for a different answer.

Bitter about what?  Did you read my original post?  Did I ever ask "what martial arts should I go into?"  Did I ever ask "should I do hapkido or BJJ or muay thai?"  Did I ever ask "Hey I'm scared to walk in the streets alone what martial arts is best for street fighting?"

I specifically stated, "Hapkido looks the most interesting to me!  I am interested in point fighting for sport/competition"   Never once did I mention that I'm on the fence about BJJ or muay thai?  so what do I have to be bitter about exactly?

And before I even started this thread, I already knew that Hapkido was not the best defense for street fighting, thats not what I was asking about!  I specifically wanted to know about HAPKIDO schools, instructors, etc

So remind me again, what should I be bitter about? lol


Maybe I missed this in one of your earlier posts, did you practice martial arts?  (this is not for me to go "What the fuck do you know?" if you haven't, but its purely to learn more about your perspective, experience etc!)

Thanks dawg!

[Captain Equipoise]

Bitter about what?  Did you read my original post?  Did I ever ask "what martial arts should I go into?"  Did I ever ask "should I do hapkido or BJJ or muay thai?"  Did I ever ask "Hey I'm scared to walk in the streets alone what martial arts is best for street fighting?"

I specifically stated, "Hapkido looks the most interesting to me!  I am interested in point fighting for sport/competition"   Never once did I mention that I'm on the fence about BJJ or muay thai?  so what do I have to be bitter about exactly?

And before I even started this thread, I already knew that Hapkido was not the best defense for street fighting, thats not what I was asking about!  I specifically wanted to know about HAPKIDO schools, instructors, etc

So remind me again, what should I be bitter about? lol


Maybe I missed this in one of your earlier posts, did you practice martial arts?  (this is not for me to go "What the fuck do you know?" if you haven't, but its purely to learn more about your perspective, experience etc!)

Thanks dawg!

Dear 'Dawg' I've been doing martial arts for over 15 years, started in karate when I was around 14, did that for about 5 years, then got into muay thai and other tactical fighting systems like systema and krav maga (I worked as a bouncer for 9 years so I needed something quick and effective) also did a little of boxing later on (few years ago) played around with jiu jitsu (brazillian, with gi) but didn't really get into it too much and instead experimented with sambo for a short time. Never got into aikido or combat hapkido because aside from some of the basics (transfer of energy, using attackers momentum against them) it seemed pretty useless to me and not as effective as other fighting arts I was doing at the time.

Good luck with your hapkido practice (no sarcasm) I'm sure you will enjoy it

[BIG ACH]

Dear 'Dawg' I've been doing martial arts for over 15 years, started in karate when I was around 14, did that for about 5 years, then got into muay thai and other tactical fighting systems like systema and krav maga (I worked as a bouncer for 9 years so I needed something quick and effective) also did a little of boxing later on (few years ago) played around with jiu jitsu (brazillian, with gi) but didn't really get into it too much and instead experimented with sambo for a short time. Never got into aikido or combat hapkido because aside from some of the basics (transfer of energy, using attackers momentum against them) it seemed pretty useless to me and not as effective as other fighting arts I was doing at the time.

Good luck with your hapkido practice (no sarcasm) I'm sure you will enjoy it

Well "dawg" (no homo)

You obviously know your shit, no doubt about that.  What were your goals when you started/continued martial arts.  I'm guessing if you were doing Krav Maga you were interested in self defense and fast response to attacks.  But what about with the muay thai and jiu jitsu, were you engaging in competitions as well, or was it all purely for street fighting/self defense?

[tonymctones]

just go for it ach it wont take you 7 years to be competitive, it might take you 7 years to be competitive nationally or even internationally but you should be able to compete within the first year bro.

If that is one of your goals I would make sure that the club you join is geared toward competitions though some clubs dont push tournaments and some do so make sure that the club you choose suits your goals.

I did Judo for years and cross trained with a few other sports to help with it I was national champion twice, State champ more times than I can remember, ranked 2nd in my division in the world as a youth and competed for the Texas A&M Judo team. Competitions are more than just competing bro its like a road trip with good friends man after the comp you all go out and party and have a genuine good time with ppl who share a common interest.

just do some research on the club first to make sure its geared to what you would like to achieve and the ppl that are in the club are ppl you could see yourself spending a good amount of time with b/c if you plan on competing you probably will spend a good amount of time with them.

[Captain Equipoise]

Well "dawg" (no homo)

You obviously know your shit, no doubt about that.  What were your goals when you started/continued martial arts.  I'm guessing if you were doing Krav Maga you were interested in self defense and fast response to attacks.  But what about with the muay thai and jiu jitsu, were you engaging in competitions as well, or was it all purely for street fighting/self defense?

I started in Karate because my father is a 2nd degree black belt and he felt it was something I should partake in (I was in my early teenage years) other then that I grew up on Van Damme and Seagal movies, so..naturally I was into the whole martial arts (pre-mma) hype, this was way before UFC was big and everyone was and their brother were a mma fighter.. lol, I got into the muay thai because I realized that what took 4 years to get to in karate was easily outdone by guys with 6 months of muay thai training.. the systema/krav maga I was doing mostly for bouncing/security work, it's a no nonsense, non-sport, tactical type of fighting which is used by special/elite forces, seals, spetznas and so on..I got interested in it because it was bad ass and would definetly help do security work. I've participated in a few local tournaments, bunch of stuff for point fighting in karate and few local muay thai matches with headgear/pads, nothing special... lol, now I'm too lazy to train mma anymore but warm up for weights with 10-15 minutes on the bags.

[Tapeworm]

just go for it ach it wont take you 7 years to be competitive, it might take you 7 years to be competitive nationally or even internationally but you should be able to compete within the first year bro.

If that is one of your goals I would make sure that the club you join is geared toward competitions though some clubs dont push tournaments and some do so make sure that the club you choose suits your goals.

I did Judo for years and cross trained with a few other sports to help with it I was national champion twice, State champ more times than I can remember, ranked 2nd in my division in the world as a youth and competed for the Texas A&M Judo team. Competitions are more than just competing bro its like a road trip with good friends man after the comp you all go out and party and have a genuine good time with ppl who share a common interest.

just do some research on the club first to make sure its geared to what you would like to achieve and the ppl that are in the club are ppl you could see yourself spending a good amount of time with b/c if you plan on competing you probably will spend a good amount of time with them.

2x national Judo champ?    Did you go to the Olympics?  What's your name?

[LatsMcGee]

Is Buff Goddess trying to bully you again ACH? 

[BIG ACH]

Tony, I think I'll definitely be going for it, just looking for the right school and instructor.  This is a potential school:  http://www.jinpalhapkido.com/  grandmaster there seems to have quite a record in the timeline section (martial arts movies and all lol) 10,000 square feet and even a weight room on site, but I'm still asking around, I have a friend who has competed in hapkido locally he's checking a few things for me too!  I did Judo as a kid and made it to yellow belt lol, but I dont remember shit, so it will be cool trying all of this out again and getting a feel for the mat!  I don't know about being competitively nationally or internationally, I just want to see how I would do in a local tournament lol - have some fun, and just see where it all goes!  Congrats on all your success bro, looks like you really took it to the next level!  Why did you decide to stop?

Captain, thanks again for your insight.  What type of Karate did you practice?  As I said initially I would've liked to go into Shotokan or Kempo, but no good schools around me so that option is out!
You've been doing this a long time so it seems and I'm sure I'll have some more questions for you later!  Is weight training a serious aspect for you as martial arts were?  Did you find that benefited you in the ring or on the mat?  Will be interested to see how this all effects me from a conditioning point of view, I fucking need the cardio which I keep skipping!  Cardio sucks, so I'll be glad to have some other form of activity in my life aside from hitting the weights!


LOL Lats, you figured out the real reason why I'm trying to get into this!  Girls are whoopin my asss, and the first of them being my wife!

[tonymctones]

2x national Judo champ?    Did you go to the Olympics?  What's your name?

No never made it to the olympics I gave it up after a 2 years of college, the cutting weight wasnt conducive to my party lifestyle and I was lifting alot which didnt help either. Im an idiot I know I probably could have made the olympics if not as the primary as an alternate for sure. I still think if I got back into it and dropped about 40 lbs I could probably make the olympics still but who knows its a young mans game.

I won the nationals in two separate divisions 132's and 145's I now weigh about 190 but could probably be competitive in the 160 division thats the division I fought in the majority of college.

I wont give my name and I know Ill probably get more shit than its worth for posting my achievements but it is what it is, I still have gi's with USA patches on the back from international tournaments. I trained with a few japanese olympians in Japan who were coaches of college teams over there and have gi's given to me by them with my name in japanese on them if you want to see those Ill only show the first name though  

[tonymctones]

Why did you decide to stop?

Looking back it was probably one of the stupidest things ive ever done but when youre practicing 4 or 5 times a week cutting weight 4 or 5 times a year for tournaments you cant really live the life of an average person. I really hated cutting weight I would sometimes lose 10-15 lbs in a week or two having to sweat off the last 3 or 4 lbs to make weight. Just wasnt enjoyable to me anymore it was all about competing and less and less about enjoying myself.

I really didnt know anything about dieting at that time if I had I think I probably would have stayed with it.

[Captain Equipoise]

Tony, I think I'll definitely be going for it, just looking for the right school and instructor.  This is a potential school:  http://www.jinpalhapkido.com/  grandmaster there seems to have quite a record in the timeline section (martial arts movies and all lol) 10,000 square feet and even a weight room on site, but I'm still asking around, I have a friend who has competed in hapkido locally he's checking a few things for me too!  I did Judo as a kid and made it to yellow belt lol, but I dont remember shit, so it will be cool trying all of this out again and getting a feel for the mat!  I don't know about being competitively nationally or internationally, I just want to see how I would do in a local tournament lol - have some fun, and just see where it all goes!  Congrats on all your success bro, looks like you really took it to the next level!  Why did you decide to stop?

Captain, thanks again for your insight.  What type of Karate did you practice?  As I said initially I would've liked to go into Shotokan or Kempo, but no good schools around me so that option is out!
You've been doing this a long time so it seems and I'm sure I'll have some more questions for you later!  Is weight training a serious aspect for you as martial arts were?  Did you find that benefited you in the ring or on the mat?  Will be interested to see how this all effects me from a conditioning point of view, I fucking need the cardio which I keep skipping!  Cardio sucks, so I'll be glad to have some other form of activity in my life aside from hitting the weights!


LOL Lats, you figured out the real reason why I'm trying to get into this!  Girls are whoopin my asss, and the first of them being my wife!

Probably just as much if not more, lol.. I did some local fitness modelling, basically an ad for a buddy's supplement store.. the weight training was a bit of a hinderance once I would get big, like over 240lbs. jacked, mostly because of traps/delts getting in the way of proper striking techniques, esp. in the muay thai.. as one of my kru (muay thai instructor/sensei) put it, never train before coming to class! lol, I had shown up one day after training shoulders and couldn't function properly when it came to technique, but I was also gassing heavily so it didn't help, in the end i basically would yo yo back and forth between martial arts and hardcore training/bodybuilding, it also helped that i didn't get into working out until I was around 20 and already had been doing martial arts for many years by then.

I'm 6"1, around 255-260 in this pic..

[Captain Equipoise]

Sorry, almost forgot.. I practiced Goju Ryu Karate,  achieved 1st dan black belt..

the only added benefit of the weight training was the extra strength I had, esp. when it came to chokes or grip on guy's when bouncing...also intimidation by size.. way less people wanted to f*ck with you when you're walking around at a muscular 260.

[BIG ACH]

Looking back it was probably one of the stupidest things ive ever done but when youre practicing 4 or 5 times a week cutting weight 4 or 5 times a year for tournaments you cant really live the life of an average person. I really hated cutting weight I would sometimes lose 10-15 lbs in a week or two having to sweat off the last 3 or 4 lbs to make weight. Just wasnt enjoyable to me anymore it was all about competing and less and less about enjoying myself.

I really didnt know anything about dieting at that time if I had I think I probably would have stayed with it.

LOL dude I was competing in bodybuilding while I was in college and was dieting down 50-70 lbs in 4 monthsl, it ain't fun for sure, I definitely know what you are talking about!!!


I'm around 230 now, god knows what my weight would be if I was to do a martial arts tournament!  But I ain't going down to 175-180 like I did for bodybuilding



Captain, I gotta hand it to you man, you are a jack of all trades, look huge in that pic!  I commend you bro!  I think with guys like us, it almost becomes an obssession any task we engage in or involve ourselves in we practically Go at it at full force and really engulf ourselves into it!  
You almost have to be a little obssessive to succeed!  Good stuff man!  Definitely know what you mean about guys not wanting to fuck with you at a muscular size - part of the reason why I'm not all too concerned with the street fighting aspect!

[tonymctones]

LOL dude I was competing in bodybuilding while I was in college and was dieting down 50-70 lbs in 4 monthsl, it ain't fun for sure, I definitely know what you are talking about!!!


I'm around 230 now, god knows what my weight would be if I was to do a martial arts tournament!  But I ain't going down to 175-180 like I did for bodybuilding



Captain, I gotta hand it to you man, you are a jack of all trades, look huge in that pic!  I commend you bro!  I think with guys like us, it almost becomes an obssession any task we engage in or involve ourselves in we practically Go at it at full force and really engulf ourselves into it!  
You almost have to be a little obssessive to succeed!  Good stuff man!  Definitely know what you mean about guys not wanting to fuck with you at a muscular size - part of the reason why I'm not all too concerned with the street fighting aspect!

for shits sake man BB competitions during college that had to take some epic self control to not party it up and stay on a diet. I seriously dont know if I would have what it takes to diet that strict now let alone when I was partying my ass off. I dont know if weight plays as big a role in striking sports but grappling it plays a real big role. Everybody who fought in your division especially nationally and internationally probably weighed 10+ lbs more than the division they were fighting in but dieted down alot like wrestling.

and Captain good shit bro you look thick as shit in the photo