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Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« on: December 25, 2009, 08:47:13 AM »
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Reality Check: For Opponents, It Was Never About the Bill
Posted by Dan Pfeiffer on December 24, 2009

Today’s Republican talking point of the day is that the historic health reform bill passed today represents the first major piece of social legislation to be passed without a single vote from across the aisle.

Well that may be true.  But it’s not a commentary on this bill.  It’s a commentary on the Republican Party, whose leaders made a determination that they were going to put party over progress.  That's never happened before when the nation took on big challenges.

President Obama made it clear from the very beginning of this process that he wanted to work with members of both parties to craft the best bill possible.  He even kicked off his efforts by inviting stakeholders from across the political spectrum to the White House to share ideas.

Contrary to what one Republican Senator said today, Democrats did not “do the HELP Committee bill completely Democrat” without “even ask[ing] one Republican opinion.”  In fact, they accepted more than 150 Republican amendments.

In putting together the Finance Committee bill, Senator Baucus held months of bipartisan discussions.  The Committee held a day-long bipartisan health care summit, convened three bipartisan roundtables, and even issued three bipartisan policy papers laying out the options from which the Committee chose to craft its bill.

Once the bill hit the Senate floor, Republicans passed up the chance to offer constructive amendments.  Instead they chose to obstruct votes and offer six separate motions to essentially start from scratch.

The sad truth is that Congressional Republican leaders decided early on that their best move was to “delay, define, and derail” reform – not to find common ground on a bill both parties could support.  They made clear their hopes that health insurance reform would be President Obama’s “Waterloo” and that it would “break him” politically.

In the process, they lost sight of the fact that this was never about President Obama – it was about the families struggling to keep up with skyrocketing premiums; the small businesses forced to choose covering employees and staying afloat; the 15,000 Americans who lost insurance every day this year.  Today’s vote was a victory for them.

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2009, 08:52:20 AM »


Hysterical. 

If its so great Benny than why the following: 

1.  did congress exempt themselves from it?

2.  Did it require the outright bribery of fellow democrats?

3.  Do the tax increases go into effect immediately and the "benefits" in 2014?

4.  CBO say that the Dems used shady math to sell this nonsense?

5.  Are governors revolting and threatening lawsuits?

6.  House Dems to Stupak and other saying it sucks?

7.  Have to require individual mandates to purchase private insurance from private companies?

8.  Have to make dirty deals with Big Pharma in the dead of night behind closed doors?



I dont expect a coherent answer from you on any of the above points. 

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2009, 08:56:06 AM »

Hysterical. 

If its so great Benny than why the following: 

1.  did congress exempt themselves from it?

2.  Did it require the outright bribery of fellow democrats?

3.  Do the tax increases go into effect immediately and the "benefits" in 2014?

4.  CBO say that the Dems used shady math to sell this nonsense?

5.  Are governors revolting and threatening lawsuits?

6.  House Dems to Stupak and other saying it sucks?

7.  Have to require individual mandates to purchase private insurance from private companies?

8.  Have to make dirty deals with Big Pharma in the dead of night behind closed doors?



I dont expect a coherent answer from you on any of the above points. 
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Senate OK's health care bill in victory for Obama
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent


WASHINGTON – In an epic struggle settled at dawn, the Democratic-controlled Senate passed health care legislation Thursday, a triumph for President Barack Obama that clears the way for compromise talks with the House on a bill to reduce the ranks of the uninsured and rein in the insurance industry.

The vote was 60-39, strictly along party lines, one day after Democrats succeeded in crushing a filibuster by Republicans eager — yet unable — to inflict a year-end political defeat on the White House.

At the White House, Obama called the vote historic, and said because of it, "we are incredibly close to making health insurance reform a reality in this country. Our challenge now is to finish the job."

Democrats, led by Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, said they would, by early in the new year. Even before they held a celebratory news conference, Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued a statement pledging, "We will soon produce a final bill that is founded on the core principles of health insurance reform: affordability for the middle class, security for our seniors, responsibility to our children by reducing the deficit, and accountability for the insurance industry."
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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2009, 09:00:18 AM »
So on the one hand you say its not about him if it went down, but now it is about him since it might pass?  I got it. 

BTW - can you refute any of my points above please?

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2009, 09:04:10 AM »
So on the one hand you say its not about him if it went down, but now it is about him since it might pass?  I got it. 

"To the victor goes the spoils."  ;)

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2009, 09:05:47 AM »
"To the victor goes the spoils."  ;)

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And to the taxpayer - generations of debt, dirty corrupt deals, death panels, and DMV Moombasah style heallth care. 

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2009, 09:12:35 AM »
And to the taxpayer - generations of debt, dirty corrupt deals, death panels, and DMV Moombasah style heallth care. 

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2009, 09:13:37 AM »
Another computer destroyed.  ;D

 
Mommy won't keep putting up with this! >:(

Care ti attempt to refute one of my points?

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2009, 09:20:21 AM »
Snowe did screw Obama on this one.  her job was to drag shit out, water the bill down. it worked.

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2009, 09:21:53 AM »
Snowe did screw Obama on this one.  her job was to drag shit out, water the bill down. it worked.

Obama screwed himself by allowing Pelosi and Reid to do allof this.  This bill is a disaster. 

I seriously wish we could have liberal free zones and states so we could contain this disease. 

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2009, 09:25:46 AM »
Snowe did screw Obama on this one.  her job was to drag shit out, water the bill down. it worked.
Snowe in the end...largely irrelevant.
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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2009, 09:37:54 AM »
however you judge the bill - in 20 years it will be as common as social security and medicare.  untouchable.

Im already betting no 2012 repub contender talks any shit about it in the general election.  watch.

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2009, 12:32:11 PM »
however you judge the bill - in 20 years it will be as common as social security and medicare.  untouchable.

Im already betting no 2012 repub contender talks any shit about it in the general election.  watch.

240 - those programs will not be here in 20 years.  Do you have any idea how screwed we are already DUE to these programs?

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2009, 12:47:32 PM »
Obama screwed himself by allowing Pelosi and Reid to do allof this.  This bill is a disaster. 

I seriously wish we could have liberal free zones and states so we could contain this disease. 

o man that'd be great!

but then...the liberals would turn rest of america into mehico and the illegals would wanna move into liberal free zones...
carpe` vaginum!

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2009, 12:51:07 PM »
o man that'd be great!

but then...the liberals would turn rest of america into mehico and the illegals would wanna move into liberal free zones...

Screw em, let the guilt ridden whites like Straw, mons, Blacken and Mons deal the horrific results of their mentally disordered political views.

Im done with it.  Liberals like Pelosi/Obama/Reid, are worse than Al Queada IMHO.

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2009, 02:13:37 PM »
"240 - those programs will not be here in 20 years."


You believe Americans will no longer be receiving social security, nor medicare, in 2030?

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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2009, 04:03:57 PM »
"240 - those programs will not be here in 20 years."


You believe Americans will no longer be receiving social security, nor medicare, in 2030?

240 - do you read some of the articles I or bindare or some others post?

We are on a kamakzi mission fiscally that will not last much longer.  I know you are busy, but please look at this video. 








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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2009, 04:09:18 PM »
This is exactly why the Democrats, liberals, and big spending RINO's are more dangerous than Al Quada and even the former comptroller of the country admits as nmuch. 


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Re: Senator Demented: "Obama's Waterloo...It Will Break Him"
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2009, 04:15:58 PM »
240 - watch this one. 

This is why I have been screaming "Fire" lately on these issues.